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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-25 00:00:22
April 24 2016 23:07 GMT
#1941
the casual racism/derogatory tones I'm seeing in herloleague this weekend is really disturbing. n-word this, faggot that. It makes me feel bad for being in this hobby in the first place.
Don't Panic
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
April 24 2016 23:55 GMT
#1942
I know that Tracer is shut down by hard CC heroes reliably well, but in Quick Match, she can just be completely out of control.

Playing against her feels like playing against Zeratul if he had a ranged attack and blink had half the cool down and no mana.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44053 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-25 10:02:25
April 25 2016 00:33 GMT
#1943
Edit: Wrong thread wat.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
April 25 2016 08:23 GMT
#1944
On April 25 2016 02:27 NonY wrote:
It blew my mind when I realized people actually have a policy of "never chase." I like to chase when I'm uncertain of the result because I don't know the game perfectly and I don't know if something is possible until I try. Too many times I've watched someone else go for something thinking they're making a mistake, and then they succeed (and not due to opponent error), and I'm just like "Wow, I know nothing." So I like seeing what's possible. And some people are actually the opposite. They habitually do not chase and do not go for kills and do not do anything that seems risky at all, even though it's plausible, and so they're actually completely ignorant when it comes to making judgment calls, having gathered no experience themselves about the options, and yet they then speak the loudest about what the right call is. Really frustrating. I don't want notes on my play from someone who has settled for being mediocre.


"Never chase" is not a bad advice. Most average/bad players should follow this advice until they get better and actually understand when to chase. There are times when you really shouldn't chase.
- The teamfight is still up ? Don't chase. To get that 1 kill you may have your whole team killed because of you.
- You don't know where your opponents are and want to chase that Rehgar / Lili in the middle of the map ? Go and give them a free kill.
- It's early / mid game and you have an objective to do ? Don't chase unless your team can secure the objective without you. I prefer securing 15 sky temple shots than wasting 40 secs getting 1 kill when the guy comes back after 30 secs or so.

If chasing is better for the team, not for your enjoyment / takedown stats, go for it. And that comes from a Nova main. ^^

Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6832 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-25 09:59:33
April 25 2016 09:59 GMT
#1945
On April 25 2016 17:23 Leolio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 02:27 NonY wrote:
It blew my mind when I realized people actually have a policy of "never chase." I like to chase when I'm uncertain of the result because I don't know the game perfectly and I don't know if something is possible until I try. Too many times I've watched someone else go for something thinking they're making a mistake, and then they succeed (and not due to opponent error), and I'm just like "Wow, I know nothing." So I like seeing what's possible. And some people are actually the opposite. They habitually do not chase and do not go for kills and do not do anything that seems risky at all, even though it's plausible, and so they're actually completely ignorant when it comes to making judgment calls, having gathered no experience themselves about the options, and yet they then speak the loudest about what the right call is. Really frustrating. I don't want notes on my play from someone who has settled for being mediocre.


"Never chase" is not a bad advice. Most average/bad players should follow this advice until they get better and actually understand when to chase. There are times when you really shouldn't chase.
- The teamfight is still up ? Don't chase. To get that 1 kill you may have your whole team killed because of you.
- You don't know where your opponents are and want to chase that Rehgar / Lili in the middle of the map ? Go and give them a free kill.
- It's early / mid game and you have an objective to do ? Don't chase unless your team can secure the objective without you. I prefer securing 15 sky temple shots than wasting 40 secs getting 1 kill when the guy comes back after 30 secs or so.

If chasing is better for the team, not for your enjoyment / takedown stats, go for it. And that comes from a Nova main. ^^



I have to second that

Chasing is more often wrong than it's right.
You often just waist precious time where you could have gotten things done like soaking that crucial exp for a talent/ get a boss/ push down a fort or keep/ get objective.

I wanted to highlight this one again:
- The teamfight is still up ? Don't chase. To get that 1 kill you may have your whole team killed because of you.
Happens to freaking often. Mostly it's Muradin chasing someone while all squishys get wiped or Rehgar
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 25 2016 12:39 GMT
#1946
Insert Artanis to good early game now rant ~.~.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
April 25 2016 12:59 GMT
#1947
Fu ck the new QM matchmaking. There are no mirror teams anymore, and the levels are not matched. I was level 1 Dehaka vs all level 5+ players.
Just give us mirror teams.

Not solo warrior versus double warrior, or no healer 1 warrior versus warrior Illidan Abathur.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 25 2016 13:34 GMT
#1948
On April 25 2016 21:39 FeyFey wrote:
Insert Artanis to good early game now rant ~.~.

Eh, I don't think he's too good early. He's still pretty easy to kill before 7, and his real tankiness doesn't come online until 13 (particularly against ability damage-heavy comps). I'd say that he's in a good spot overall right now.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 25 2016 16:35 GMT
#1949
"ok I hit 7 with Khala's embrace and we will wreck them with Zagara/Tracer on Tomb"

then our Malf takes Twilight Dream and the Zagara takes Nydus
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-25 20:14:57
April 25 2016 19:39 GMT
#1950
matchmaking is fucking shit now, all i got to say about games with no duo qs and 300 mmr deviation on a team

edit: case in point: unranked guy gets captain, last picks malfurion after tyrande in a TLV team. I carried this game out on Vikings too, but then they all decided to defend terror ahead of their base, got caught in 3 man mosh and lost the game in 10s. nice
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-26 02:59:50
April 25 2016 21:02 GMT
#1951
-150 mmr in one evening.

GG matchmaking, I love being paired up with people that are 1100+ mmr lower than me.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 25 2016 21:16 GMT
#1952
I'm not sure you should be around children.
Don't Panic
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44053 Posts
April 26 2016 03:20 GMT
#1953
Win 4 games, go up a full rank. Lose the next game, drop all the way back down. Jesus, even when I win I lose.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
April 26 2016 06:23 GMT
#1954
Allies complaining about Tracer when they die in small groups against all 4 + abathur the entire game. The opposing Li Ming did about 130% more hero damage than their Tracer and all I hear is whining about Tracer.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-26 08:32:01
April 26 2016 08:29 GMT
#1955
People tend to be obsessed over Tracer. My policy is to try to get her, or reppel her, and if we get the kill it's great, if we don't it's ok. She's more annoying if you waste time actually chasing her all the time, as you probably won't catch her.

Ej_ > Nydus Zagara is everywhere in QM. And of course they don't use it well, always die and in the end push even less than a Maw Zagara.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
April 26 2016 11:48 GMT
#1956
Just lost -138 points.
Our healer was a rank 2, 2700mmr that griefed the entire game.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-26 12:06:30
April 26 2016 12:04 GMT
#1957
I just got the 2 shittiest HL games ever.

1st game, our last pick is selecting Thrall but we need a healer and the other team just banned him, and then he selects EVERY SINGLE HEALER and all show with an exclamation mark, meaning he cannot play them (levels too low). So he goes for Nazeebo. We have a noob Illidan, a feeding Jaina, a bad Nazeebo, and me (Nova) and my friend (Diablo) to carry.
We win this even without healer, because the other team was all noobs. Didn't play with and vs such noobs in a long time in HL.

2nd game, the muted guy is on their team, so i'm confident. I get 2 muted guys: muted Jo, muted Asmo who never joins and yolo on lane ALL GAME. Feeding Russian Jaina (5 death in 5 minutes, ends at 10 death), AFK Jo after a 12 minutes because who cares about comebacks.
I manage a beautiful boss steal with Falstad without dying. But then they steal our boss because why help on boss when you can waste time in the lane near it.
I mean, this was beyond carry. They did pick Nova (the guy who did was on my team prev game so obviously he wouldn't let me have her).

Blizzard: 2 or 3 quick fixes: don't allow more than 1 muted guy on 1 team. Make real punishments for people who are muted and still get a shitload of reports. Don't allow in HL someone who doesn't have 4 playable healers, or 4 playable warriors.
Simple.

edit: and fucking fix the bug where muted people don't show up as muted at all on draft, be them on our team or on the other team. This is important. I think it's an Europe only bug.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
April 26 2016 12:42 GMT
#1958
I just gained 4 ranks on my way back to R1 by having an 8 game win streak. This means I never get to play ever ever again because matchmaker puts me with some of the most retarded asshats it can find in the queue whenever you have a winning streak.

On April 26 2016 21:04 Leolio wrote:
edit: and fucking fix the bug where muted people don't show up as muted at all on draft, be them on our team or on the other team. This is important. I think it's an Europe only bug.

Ofc it is
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
April 26 2016 18:06 GMT
#1959
On April 24 2016 06:39 SC2Toastie wrote:
Also Reddit is giving me cancer. Is there no nice, active Heroes community outside of that pathetic shithole?


TL is my only refuge from it. I ran full face into the cancer when I got a -5 score for posting that maybe teams should pay players actual money in response to zoia saying it didn't make sense.
Don't Panic
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44053 Posts
April 26 2016 18:30 GMT
#1960
On April 27 2016 03:06 MotherFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 06:39 SC2Toastie wrote:
Also Reddit is giving me cancer. Is there no nice, active Heroes community outside of that pathetic shithole?


TL is my only refuge from it. I ran full face into the cancer when I got a -5 score for posting that maybe teams should pay players actual money in response to zoia saying it didn't make sense.


They don't get small salaries!?!?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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