EPTthe zoia post was about srey playing for several months with no contract (and thus no income), even though he was playing events for tempo storm. Apparently it is a controversial thing to say that organizations shouldn't take advantage of players' willingness to play(and earn money for the team) for no wages. Even if it is an industry standard, its a standard that should change. (even if the pay is only a paltry amount. something is better than nothing.)
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
the zoia post was about srey playing for several months with no contract (and thus no income), even though he was playing events for tempo storm. Apparently it is a controversial thing to say that organizations shouldn't take advantage of players' willingness to play(and earn money for the team) for no wages. Even if it is an industry standard, its a standard that should change. (even if the pay is only a paltry amount. something is better than nothing.) | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45041 Posts
On April 27 2016 03:46 MotherFox wrote: the zoia post was about srey playing for several months with no contract (and thus no income), even though he was playing events for tempo storm. Apparently it is a controversial thing to say that organizations shouldn't take advantage of players' willingness to play(and earn money for the team) for no wages. Even if it is an industry standard, its a standard that should change. (even if the pay is only a paltry amount. something is better than nothing.) Agreed. Anyways, I don't want to derail ^^;; | ||
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1378mNH.jpg) Seriously... How can a tracer die 8 times? And how can a tracer deal 1/3rd of enemy tracer? Then i flamed not being a tank with artanis? | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
EDIT: And maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I don't feel like Li Ming carries games like other assassins simply because she is not that good at securing kills herself, despite her gaudy damage numbers. Compare that to someone like Zeratul, where I routinely account for 50%+ of my teams' kills and I can actually tell that I am carrying hard. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
On April 27 2016 04:04 Aceace wrote: Seriously... How can a tracer die 8 times? And how can a tracer deal 1/3rd of enemy tracer? Then i flamed not being a tank with artanis? I've been playing Artanis a lot. Ridiculous how often people criticize me for not focusing their carries, when in every situation they criticize, the reality is that if I miss one attack, I won't get a new shield in time and I'll just die. Meanwhile the enemy team is wasting cooldowns on me and I'm still winning the battle with the enemy tank. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On April 27 2016 22:45 NonY wrote: I've been playing Artanis a lot. Ridiculous how often people criticize me for not focusing their carries, when in every situation they criticize, the reality is that if I miss one attack, I won't get a new shield in time and I'll just die. Meanwhile the enemy team is wasting cooldowns on me and I'm still winning the battle with the enemy tank. Yeah, I think that there is a lot of misconception regarding how to play Artanis and how best to utilize him. As he stands now, he's a damage sponge who poses a medium damage threat to the enemy team. He's at his best in an anti-bruiser/tank/enemy frontline role. Yes, you can use him to dive the enemy back line and force mismatches back there, but I find that, more of than not, you're going to find your team letting you down and being unable to exploit the situation. In contrast, it's never really a bad decision to drop purifier beam on one of the enemy frontliners (especially the immobile ones) and to attack them to keep them away from your back line. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On April 27 2016 09:43 xDaunt wrote: Why is it that every time when I play Li Ming that I never get teammates who are capable of finishing off my targets and getting me my cool down resets? I just lost a game where my Falstad teammate had 20k hero damage past the 20 minute mark. Fucking pathetic. EDIT: And maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I don't feel like Li Ming carries games like other assassins simply because she is not that good at securing kills herself, despite her gaudy damage numbers. Compare that to someone like Zeratul, where I routinely account for 50%+ of my teams' kills and I can actually tell that I am carrying hard. I actually find Li Ming to be the ultimate finishing machine. I find that she's really good at two things. 1) Pre-fight poking with her incredibly long range, and 2) flanking and finishing opponents. Her potential seems quite wasted if you try to be a back line poker during a team fight (like Jaina), as the team's front line absorbs all of your damage. I can pretty much secure any kill if I can teleport fairly close to a damaged opponent (especially if I build Calamity) and then just drop Missiles/Orb/Disintegrate in a .5 second span. This alone secures the kill, resets your cooldowns, and heals you, allowing you to either escape or just spam it again. Of course, this depends on team composition (sometimes I can get a little too dive-happy), but it can often snowball into utter ridiculousness. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On April 28 2016 07:16 xDaunt wrote: So what the hell just happened to hero league matchmaking? I queue up and get 2 rank 7's, a rank 6, and rank 3 on my team. None of them were partied up. I thought that shit wasn't supposed to happen anymore when you hit rank 1. People are complaining that since the Tracer patch match making is fucked up. There are multiple threads on reddit and other forum posts about it. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
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Leolio
France633 Posts
So I think next time I have a Tassadar I leave the draft. Lost like 5 of the last 6 times I had him, and always win vs him. And never play on wednesday afternoon again (it's the kids free afternoon in France). edit: checked the stats, we got an Illidan 2 out of these 3 times, and Illidan sucks IMO. My favorite was the one who was bragging in draft, and fed the whole game. He has a 27% winrate in HL with Illidan. It's not like we could carry this. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
Anyway, its no point trying to talk them into better decisions, just play imo. Again i heard the "lol ban tracer". And i started to mention that ppl suck vs her and that if she is imba she is not to imba. Like What The Fuck is the point, why do i do that. | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
This, and the power outage on the street right in draft. Thanks for the 2 levels downs and 3 QM penalty fucking electricity guys. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On April 26 2016 21:42 SC2Toastie wrote: I just gained 4 ranks on my way back to R1 by having an 8 game win streak. This means I never get to play ever ever again because matchmaker puts me with some of the most retarded asshats it can find in the queue whenever you have a winning streak. Ofc it is  And of course, it happened. Game 1, a last pick Azmodan (didn't hover at draft, didn't communicate, we had a BAD Azmodan comp). Starts raging early game because nobody is helping him stack (we have Tracer, Muradin, Rehgar, Azmodan, Falstad. Nobody CAN help him stack). Azmodan gets angry. Azmodan proceeds to feed into the enemy team, ending with a whopping 17 deaths. We lost the game. Game 2, BHB, I get Xul, I have a Sonya and ETC teammate. After they fed at turn in 4 times (enemy team didn't have coins to turn in by the way, they were all fed them by my teammates), they proceed to mass ping me, tell me how I am cancer, I need to uninstall, my mother has to get a tumor, tell me to report them because nobody cares, I'm shit, I should hang myself. The usual. They ignore the fact that I got 3 forts solo whilst the enemy team got 1. They proceed to do nothing but stand at boss, attack it once every 90s, and go afk for the time between. Obviously, we lost this game. 3v5 is hard to win. Game 3, Garden Terror. First pick and team captain is still in placement (has account level 33) bans tracer, enemy team bans Illidan. We get a first pick Li fucking Li. Enemy team gets Kael Thas + Li Ming. To make matter worse, we have a last pick Jaina, who is silenced, afk for the first minute the game starts, waits behind a wall until the plants spawn. Goes mental on pinging me (Mura) and a teammate (the Li Li) for taking shit heroes, not helping at the top plant (mind you, forcing teamfights as 5 into a superior comp, at 2 mins in the game, is not a recipe for success). After I said we should get bot plant and start soaking bot lane, she pings pings pings me, and spends the rest of the game walking with me, auto attacking regularly, and pinging me. When I hearthstoned because I was OOM, Jaina came with me (literally 100% HP/Mana) and spent the rest of the game in the altar area. Guess what. We lost. It is extremely frustrating how hard toxic fucks can throw games for you, and they get off without punishment. The ETC in G2 actually took pride in the fact that he could harass me like this and he would get off without penalty. Additionally, it is very disheartening how the matchmaker seems to balance winrates out. You win a ton of games, then you lose a ton of games. The wins are stomps, the losses are due to toxic fucks throwing the game because they get salty. It is REALLY hard currently to play fun, evenly matched games without one troll or another deciding to throw at some point. This game, sadly, needs harsher penalties, on top of a much better matchmaking system. I used to be against it, but I feel more and more like a low priority HL queue is something desirable. It would probably also fix how the weekends are nigh unplayable. | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
We need temporary bans or forced QMs. Maybe we also should be able to kick people (unanimity of the other 4 players required). But again, if people don't get more than the mute penalty, it's useless. And muted people create more toxicity than when they're not muted, so I'd rather they remove this. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On April 28 2016 23:38 SC2Toastie wrote: [/b]It is REALLY hard currently to play fun, evenly matched games without one troll or another deciding to throw at some point. This game, sadly, needs harsher penalties, on top of a much better matchmaking system. I used to be against it, but I feel more and more like a low priority HL queue is something desirable. It would probably also fix how the weekends are nigh unplayable. I want to expand on this--- it isn't just game losses that are affected by this. Over the last two days I've gone something like winning 11/15 of my games in HL. But most of those games have been routes, and largely due to enemy teams obviously breaking down (going afk), people drafting poorly, and so on. If you can kill 2-3 people before the first objective spawns on most maps, you just end up winning regardless of whether you gained much material advantage from the ganks. That's super dumb, and it seems like it should be a fixable problem. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
*proceeds to spend first 5 minutes of the game getting boddied by zagara in the bot lane* edit: seems like it dropped me when i alt-tabbed out of the lost game and lost 300 points for it :D | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Had a lane Tracer and Azmodan today ... on Towers of Doom :D . I kinda expected something like this, so went for 1 Dwarf vs 5 Talents. Barely won. Zagara tilted midgame "what the fuck are you thinking" on which I dropped the subtle hint "np its reportable so no worries". Afterwards the Tracer did join the fights. Sadly because I really wanted to report both. | ||
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