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riotjune
United States2928 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On April 16 2015 03:16 riotjune wrote: I AM RAGE INCARNATE I hear snickers does something to you | ||
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4tre55
Germany267 Posts
On April 16 2015 03:02 LongShot27 wrote: It's called cutting your losses and it's one of the first thing any good player or coach learns in their career in any sport So what you're saying is that it's a great idea to abandon your team a few minutes in? | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On April 16 2015 03:27 4tre55 wrote: So what you're saying is that it's a great idea to abandon your team a few minutes in? If you are in a position that you can't win, it's better to let the game end and move on. | ||
Valiver
Caldeum1960 Posts
On April 16 2015 03:30 LongShot27 wrote: If you are in a position that you can't win, it's better to let the game end and move on. I would say that very few games are over until they are actually over. There's always a chance that an enemy will get cocky and get caught and your team can easily capitalize and get right back into the game. If you are down a few levels a single kill gives sooo much xp. If the kill came at a good time right before some objective spawns the game can swing back into your favor in a matter of seconds. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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riotjune
United States2928 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States38610 Posts
On April 16 2015 03:30 LongShot27 wrote: If you are in a position that you can't win, it's better to let the game end and move on. This isn't chess though... There are very frequently comebacks due to overextentions in this game. At least, it's rarely completely and utterly over from the start or from just one wrong move early on. Also, I'd argue that one of the first things you learn in any team sport is to give it your all and it's not over 'til it's actually over, not how to quit as early as possible and screw your team over. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States38610 Posts
On April 16 2015 03:45 LongShot27 wrote: If your down all of your forts 5 minutes in and havent taken a gate down, you need to move on. If the other team is 3-4 levels up on you at their 10, its time to move on. Sure, but I'd imagine those super-extreme cases account for maybe 5% of the situations, and everyone else gives up way too quickly. | ||
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[Phantom]
Mexico1598 Posts
On April 16 2015 03:02 LongShot27 wrote: It's called cutting your losses and it's one of the first thing any good player or coach learns in their career in any sport Im pretty sure that is not true, in fact, in most sports you cant just surrender and move on, you have to stay until the match is finished. It'be ridiculous seing Messi walking out of the game at the minute 30 because they are losing 2-0 and calling "GG". We're working on a coupe of articles though, and we hope to explain some of the things being disscused here. | ||
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4tre55
Germany267 Posts
On April 16 2015 04:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Sure, but I'd imagine those super-extreme cases account for maybe 5% of the situations, and everyone else gives up way too quickly. Indead, and even in those cases i have seen teams go for boss and lose a teamfight right before they manage to kill it to trhrow a huge lead at say 14 vs 11 or so. And if you don't try you'll never learn how to come back from bad situations which is definitly more often than most people think, especially a lot of the leavers. | ||
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Leolio X
France26 Posts
It'be ridiculous seing Messi walking out of the game at the minute 30 because they are losing 2-0 and calling "GG". It's not like Messi can leave and launch another game anyway. And he's paid a lot. But my time is precious so I don't want to waste it because of some bad players. (ok it's very rare situations though) But back to the point, yesterday my internet failed in a ranked game so I "quit". I tried to join again with another ISP (I have 3 different ISPs at work) but it didn't work, probably IP conflict or whatever. So I received a message in red telling me I'm out of ranked games until I play with other quitters 1 game to the end in quick match. While I find the situation a bit unfair I think it's a nice rule. Also the quick match was with awful soloist Malfurion and soloist Uther, because you know support heroes are so good alone. They don't need a team. We won because Valla and me (Nova) played OK but it took like forever. Also, hate for every free Sonya week and free Illidan week! | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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riotjune
United States2928 Posts
that would be popeyes chicken | ||
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
On April 16 2015 03:30 LongShot27 wrote: If you are in a position that you can't win, it's better to let the game end and move on. I would stay quiet but this is a RAGE THREAD! Dude, just because you think its over when we have 3 keeps and are 10 minutes into the game doesn't mean you can give up and stop trying. You are STILL a douchebag even if our chances look grim. Yeah 3 levels behind no structure damage done and Billy just died. Looks bad. But there is a lot of play time ahead so instead of a half assed 10 minutes (that might have flames and blames) lets just try? Can't you see me Billy and Derpy are still doing our best? There is no surrender. Cutting your losses is when you have no chance and quit. We cannot quit and if you wanna give up you better have an agreement between everyone. In this game the come backs are only "close to impossible" when you can see your life flashing before your eyes. Any good player or coach will tell you to keep your cool and go for the win as long as you have a chance, even if its small. You can choose to surrender in other games, but on this one you have to stay anyway so might as well try. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10106 Posts
But yeah the gg kiddies are annoying. Wrong game to call an early gg. Especially if you have 3 heroes that start to get really good in the lategame, where the other side has a good early game, but meh lategame. Enemy Nova lost her stacks and the comeback was there hehe. Nothing against cutting losses. But most people that want to surrender are people that would quit in a card game if they didn't get the perfect hand. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On April 17 2015 06:24 Superbanana wrote: I would stay quiet but this is a RAGE THREAD! Dude, just because you think its over when we have 3 keeps and are 10 minutes into the game doesn't mean you can give up and stop trying. You are STILL a douchebag even if our chances look grim. Yeah 3 levels behind no structure damage done and Billy just died. Looks bad. But there is a lot of play time ahead so instead of a half assed 10 minutes (that might have flames and blames) lets just try? Can't you see me Billy and Derpy are still doing our best? There is no surrender. Cutting your losses is when you have no chance and quit. We cannot quit and if you wanna give up you better have an agreement between everyone. In this game the come backs are only "close to impossible" when you can see your life flashing before your eyes. Any good player or coach will tell you to keep your cool and go for the win as long as you have a chance, even if its small. You can choose to surrender in other games, but on this one you have to stay anyway so might as well try. not sure if this is funny, or just sad | ||
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Leolio X
France26 Posts
On April 17 2015 06:39 FeyFey wrote: 7 quickmatches in a row in the non support vs support team. *baby rages* But yeah the gg kiddies are annoying. Wrong game to call an early gg. Especially if you have 3 heroes that start to get really good in the lategame, where the other side has a good early game, but meh lategame. Enemy Nova lost her stacks and the comeback was there hehe. Nothing against cutting losses. But most people that want to surrender are people that would quit in a card game if they didn't get the perfect hand. Play support and start winning.  | ||
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willoc
Canada1432 Posts
On April 16 2015 03:30 LongShot27 wrote: If you are in a position that you can't win, it's better to let the game end and move on. Lol @ the "impossible to comeback" advice. What losses are you cutting? Do you employ the same strategy to your life?  In seriousness, even in a game like SC (1v1) it was hard to tell subjectively if there was objectively no way to win anymore. Maybe if the whole team agreed it was impossible to win it wouldn't be a douche move but let the douches be douches! After playing MOBAs for so long, you are guaranteed to run into douches so just don't let it ruin your day. Glad there are penalties for people like this. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10106 Posts
I jinxed myself by saying that once. Every time I took support I ended in teams with 3-4 supports for a Murky. So currently I am abusing that people dislike melee characters and play Muradin. Early game is a bit of a hassle, but post 13 its so much fun. | ||
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