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riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3322 Posts
April 15 2015 18:16 GMT
#61
I AM RAGE INCARNATE
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
April 15 2015 18:18 GMT
#62
On April 16 2015 03:16 riotjune wrote:
I AM RAGE INCARNATE


I hear snickers does something to you
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
April 15 2015 18:27 GMT
#63
On April 16 2015 03:02 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 06:28 Kickboxer wrote:
People who quit when behind are the worst. I don't know how that kind of person ever gets anything done in real life, or if they are depressed, or spoiled, or just weak in general, but I honestly find a quitter's personality to be outright revolting.

If I had to choose between a team of clueless high-morale noobs and a team of above average quitters I'd go with the noobs every time.


It's called cutting your losses and it's one of the first thing any good player or coach learns in their career in any sport


So what you're saying is that it's a great idea to abandon your team a few minutes in?
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
April 15 2015 18:30 GMT
#64
On April 16 2015 03:27 4tre55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 03:02 LongShot27 wrote:
On April 15 2015 06:28 Kickboxer wrote:
People who quit when behind are the worst. I don't know how that kind of person ever gets anything done in real life, or if they are depressed, or spoiled, or just weak in general, but I honestly find a quitter's personality to be outright revolting.

If I had to choose between a team of clueless high-morale noobs and a team of above average quitters I'd go with the noobs every time.


It's called cutting your losses and it's one of the first thing any good player or coach learns in their career in any sport


So what you're saying is that it's a great idea to abandon your team a few minutes in?


If you are in a position that you can't win, it's better to let the game end and move on.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1975 Posts
April 15 2015 18:37 GMT
#65
On April 16 2015 03:30 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 03:27 4tre55 wrote:
On April 16 2015 03:02 LongShot27 wrote:
On April 15 2015 06:28 Kickboxer wrote:
People who quit when behind are the worst. I don't know how that kind of person ever gets anything done in real life, or if they are depressed, or spoiled, or just weak in general, but I honestly find a quitter's personality to be outright revolting.

If I had to choose between a team of clueless high-morale noobs and a team of above average quitters I'd go with the noobs every time.


It's called cutting your losses and it's one of the first thing any good player or coach learns in their career in any sport


So what you're saying is that it's a great idea to abandon your team a few minutes in?


If you are in a position that you can't win, it's better to let the game end and move on.

I would say that very few games are over until they are actually over. There's always a chance that an enemy will get cocky and get caught and your team can easily capitalize and get right back into the game. If you are down a few levels a single kill gives sooo much xp. If the kill came at a good time right before some objective spawns the game can swing back into your favor in a matter of seconds.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
April 15 2015 18:45 GMT
#66
If your down all of your forts 5 minutes in and havent taken a gate down, you need to move on. If the other team is 3-4 levels up on you at their 10, its time to move on.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3322 Posts
April 15 2015 19:06 GMT
#67
Those train wreck games huh. Yea you're not coming back from those if the enemy team isn't dumb enough to throw and your dumbass team is still dying left and right.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States41531 Posts
April 15 2015 19:49 GMT
#68
On April 16 2015 03:30 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 03:27 4tre55 wrote:
On April 16 2015 03:02 LongShot27 wrote:
On April 15 2015 06:28 Kickboxer wrote:
People who quit when behind are the worst. I don't know how that kind of person ever gets anything done in real life, or if they are depressed, or spoiled, or just weak in general, but I honestly find a quitter's personality to be outright revolting.

If I had to choose between a team of clueless high-morale noobs and a team of above average quitters I'd go with the noobs every time.


It's called cutting your losses and it's one of the first thing any good player or coach learns in their career in any sport


So what you're saying is that it's a great idea to abandon your team a few minutes in?


If you are in a position that you can't win, it's better to let the game end and move on.


This isn't chess though... There are very frequently comebacks due to overextentions in this game. At least, it's rarely completely and utterly over from the start or from just one wrong move early on. Also, I'd argue that one of the first things you learn in any team sport is to give it your all and it's not over 'til it's actually over, not how to quit as early as possible and screw your team over.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States41531 Posts
April 15 2015 19:55 GMT
#69
On April 16 2015 03:45 LongShot27 wrote:
If your down all of your forts 5 minutes in and havent taken a gate down, you need to move on. If the other team is 3-4 levels up on you at their 10, its time to move on.


Sure, but I'd imagine those super-extreme cases account for maybe 5% of the situations, and everyone else gives up way too quickly.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2072 Posts
April 15 2015 21:04 GMT
#70
On April 16 2015 03:02 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 06:28 Kickboxer wrote:
People who quit when behind are the worst. I don't know how that kind of person ever gets anything done in real life, or if they are depressed, or spoiled, or just weak in general, but I honestly find a quitter's personality to be outright revolting.

If I had to choose between a team of clueless high-morale noobs and a team of above average quitters I'd go with the noobs every time.


It's called cutting your losses and it's one of the first thing any good player or coach learns in their career in any sport


Im pretty sure that is not true, in fact, in most sports you cant just surrender and move on, you have to stay until the match is finished. It'be ridiculous seing Messi walking out of the game at the minute 30 because they are losing 2-0 and calling "GG".


We're working on a coupe of articles though, and we hope to explain some of the things being disscused here.
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4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
April 15 2015 21:06 GMT
#71
On April 16 2015 04:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 03:45 LongShot27 wrote:
If your down all of your forts 5 minutes in and havent taken a gate down, you need to move on. If the other team is 3-4 levels up on you at their 10, its time to move on.


Sure, but I'd imagine those super-extreme cases account for maybe 5% of the situations, and everyone else gives up way too quickly.


Indead, and even in those cases i have seen teams go for boss and lose a teamfight right before they manage to kill it to trhrow a huge lead at say 14 vs 11 or so. And if you don't try you'll never learn how to come back from bad situations which is definitly more often than most people think, especially a lot of the leavers.
Leolio X
Profile Joined April 2015
France26 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 14:47:45
April 16 2015 14:46 GMT
#72
It'be ridiculous seing Messi walking out of the game at the minute 30 because they are losing 2-0 and calling "GG".

It's not like Messi can leave and launch another game anyway. And he's paid a lot. But my time is precious so I don't want to waste it because of some bad players. (ok it's very rare situations though)

But back to the point, yesterday my internet failed in a ranked game so I "quit". I tried to join again with another ISP (I have 3 different ISPs at work) but it didn't work, probably IP conflict or whatever. So I received a message in red telling me I'm out of ranked games until I play with other quitters 1 game to the end in quick match.
While I find the situation a bit unfair I think it's a nice rule. Also the quick match was with awful soloist Malfurion and soloist Uther, because you know support heroes are so good alone. They don't need a team. We won because Valla and me (Nova) played OK but it took like forever.

Also, hate for every free Sonya week and free Illidan week!
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
April 16 2015 15:13 GMT
#73
If you dislike the free rotation then play hero league. QM is the "fuck around but against real people" mode. It is the mode I go in to try out non-standard skill builds to see if it actually works out.
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riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3322 Posts
April 16 2015 16:31 GMT
#74
On April 16 2015 03:18 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 03:16 riotjune wrote:
I AM RAGE INCARNATE


I hear snickers does something to you

that would be popeyes chicken
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 21:26:29
April 16 2015 21:24 GMT
#75
On April 16 2015 03:30 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 03:27 4tre55 wrote:
On April 16 2015 03:02 LongShot27 wrote:
On April 15 2015 06:28 Kickboxer wrote:
People who quit when behind are the worst. I don't know how that kind of person ever gets anything done in real life, or if they are depressed, or spoiled, or just weak in general, but I honestly find a quitter's personality to be outright revolting.

If I had to choose between a team of clueless high-morale noobs and a team of above average quitters I'd go with the noobs every time.


It's called cutting your losses and it's one of the first thing any good player or coach learns in their career in any sport


So what you're saying is that it's a great idea to abandon your team a few minutes in?


If you are in a position that you can't win, it's better to let the game end and move on.


I would stay quiet but this is a RAGE THREAD!

Dude, just because you think its over when we have 3 keeps and are 10 minutes into the game doesn't mean you can give up and stop trying. You are STILL a douchebag even if our chances look grim.
Yeah 3 levels behind no structure damage done and Billy just died. Looks bad. But there is a lot of play time ahead so instead of a half assed 10 minutes (that might have flames and blames) lets just try?

Can't you see me Billy and Derpy are still doing our best? There is no surrender. Cutting your losses is when you have no chance and quit. We cannot quit and if you wanna give up you better have an agreement between everyone. In this game the come backs are only "close to impossible" when you can see your life flashing before your eyes.

Any good player or coach will tell you to keep your cool and go for the win as long as you have a chance, even if its small. You can choose to surrender in other games, but on this one you have to stay anyway so might as well try.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 16 2015 21:39 GMT
#76
7 quickmatches in a row in the non support vs support team. *baby rages*

But yeah the gg kiddies are annoying. Wrong game to call an early gg. Especially if you have 3 heroes that start to get really good in the lategame, where the other side has a good early game, but meh lategame. Enemy Nova lost her stacks and the comeback was there hehe.

Nothing against cutting losses. But most people that want to surrender are people that would quit in a card game if they didn't get the perfect hand.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
April 16 2015 21:46 GMT
#77
On April 17 2015 06:24 Superbanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 03:30 LongShot27 wrote:
On April 16 2015 03:27 4tre55 wrote:
On April 16 2015 03:02 LongShot27 wrote:
On April 15 2015 06:28 Kickboxer wrote:
People who quit when behind are the worst. I don't know how that kind of person ever gets anything done in real life, or if they are depressed, or spoiled, or just weak in general, but I honestly find a quitter's personality to be outright revolting.

If I had to choose between a team of clueless high-morale noobs and a team of above average quitters I'd go with the noobs every time.


It's called cutting your losses and it's one of the first thing any good player or coach learns in their career in any sport


So what you're saying is that it's a great idea to abandon your team a few minutes in?


If you are in a position that you can't win, it's better to let the game end and move on.


I would stay quiet but this is a RAGE THREAD!

Dude, just because you think its over when we have 3 keeps and are 10 minutes into the game doesn't mean you can give up and stop trying. You are STILL a douchebag even if our chances look grim.
Yeah 3 levels behind no structure damage done and Billy just died. Looks bad. But there is a lot of play time ahead so instead of a half assed 10 minutes (that might have flames and blames) lets just try?

Can't you see me Billy and Derpy are still doing our best? There is no surrender. Cutting your losses is when you have no chance and quit. We cannot quit and if you wanna give up you better have an agreement between everyone. In this game the come backs are only "close to impossible" when you can see your life flashing before your eyes.

Any good player or coach will tell you to keep your cool and go for the win as long as you have a chance, even if its small. You can choose to surrender in other games, but on this one you have to stay anyway so might as well try.


not sure if this is funny, or just sad
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Leolio X
Profile Joined April 2015
France26 Posts
April 17 2015 07:03 GMT
#78
On April 17 2015 06:39 FeyFey wrote:
7 quickmatches in a row in the non support vs support team. *baby rages*

But yeah the gg kiddies are annoying. Wrong game to call an early gg. Especially if you have 3 heroes that start to get really good in the lategame, where the other side has a good early game, but meh lategame. Enemy Nova lost her stacks and the comeback was there hehe.

Nothing against cutting losses. But most people that want to surrender are people that would quit in a card game if they didn't get the perfect hand.


Play support and start winning.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
April 20 2015 19:51 GMT
#79
On April 16 2015 03:30 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 03:27 4tre55 wrote:
On April 16 2015 03:02 LongShot27 wrote:
On April 15 2015 06:28 Kickboxer wrote:
People who quit when behind are the worst. I don't know how that kind of person ever gets anything done in real life, or if they are depressed, or spoiled, or just weak in general, but I honestly find a quitter's personality to be outright revolting.

If I had to choose between a team of clueless high-morale noobs and a team of above average quitters I'd go with the noobs every time.


It's called cutting your losses and it's one of the first thing any good player or coach learns in their career in any sport


So what you're saying is that it's a great idea to abandon your team a few minutes in?


If you are in a position that you can't win, it's better to let the game end and move on.


Lol @ the "impossible to comeback" advice. What losses are you cutting? Do you employ the same strategy to your life?

In seriousness, even in a game like SC (1v1) it was hard to tell subjectively if there was objectively no way to win anymore. Maybe if the whole team agreed it was impossible to win it wouldn't be a douche move but let the douches be douches! After playing MOBAs for so long, you are guaranteed to run into douches so just don't let it ruin your day. Glad there are penalties for people like this.

Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 20 2015 20:07 GMT
#80
On April 17 2015 16:03 Leolio X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 06:39 FeyFey wrote:
7 quickmatches in a row in the non support vs support team. *baby rages*

But yeah the gg kiddies are annoying. Wrong game to call an early gg. Especially if you have 3 heroes that start to get really good in the lategame, where the other side has a good early game, but meh lategame. Enemy Nova lost her stacks and the comeback was there hehe.

Nothing against cutting losses. But most people that want to surrender are people that would quit in a card game if they didn't get the perfect hand.


Play support and start winning.


I jinxed myself by saying that once. Every time I took support I ended in teams with 3-4 supports for a Murky. So currently I am abusing that people dislike melee characters and play Muradin. Early game is a bit of a hassle, but post 13 its so much fun.
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