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Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 02:26:33
March 24 2015 02:25 GMT
#21
Am I wrong in thinking when the enemy has a lone bottom keep on Blackheart's Bay, that you should push the keep if most of your team is bottom, rather than running across most of the map because you realize, in the sudden silence, the enemy team is probably doing boss? But I suppose they legitimately whined at me for my Tyrael ulting ETC, while ignoring a far more critical mistake of theirs.

Edit: and we had all 3 keeps still.
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
March 24 2015 04:35 GMT
#22
On March 22 2015 11:35 Superbanana wrote:
Too many people fit in any of those:

1 - Flamer: They call out mistakes from everyone and they are usually bad themselves. Even when they are not bad its distracting and annoying. Teams usually play worse after the flaming starts, and more important, it spoils the fun.

2 - The demotivational guy: Mostly early ggs, but thing can go far. People start calling out the defeat way too early, and stop trying, making the come back almost impossible. They also tend to throw harder when behind. Its funny how nobody calls a win =/ Please, gg on the first DK? Just don't. There is also the team composition version. No tank? gg. No healer? gg. Murky? gg. Plz...

3 - The boss: I really like when people suggest a plan. I love it. But its a pain when the guy start doing it anyway alone, even if its a throw. If he dies its the team fault for not going. Then he post in all caps what you should do and call you a retard (regardless of you following his plan or not). The boss dies a lot and gets really talkative when dead. He also ping spam. For god sake, ping once or twice, im not blind.
Im not asking for a "please" before any message. "Lets take this camp"; "come bottom"; "boss in x seconds"; "back"; "focus this dude"; "let them get it". Its all ok.

4 - The afk/leaver: Nothing against this guy, who knows? Maybe a bomb fell on his head? Maybe its a heart attack? Power outage? Anyway, its annoying and i cannot even blame the man.

5 - The noob: Same thing. Cannot blame. Cannot hate. I can only cry he was matched with me. I can give tips very politely and hope he listens (he usually won't). Then i can pray he is not flamed and my team do not lose their will to live on and keep trying even if the noob makes our chances look grim.

To avoid overwhelming negativity, let me mention some good ones, hoping you guys fit in or try to fit in the good side.

1 - Just playing: He just... plays. He is alright. I like him.

2 - The nice guy: He will make jokes, evoke positivity, say a "good job", or "its ok". He usually makes calls too. Sadly he is near extinction.

3 - The buddy: He may not be the best guy around, but he is always there. Even when he shoudn't, "don't come buddy! nooooo!" cannot get mad. The buddy will say sorry if he does wrong, and he will follow everyone. Its like a ping bot with a soul.

4 - The carry: The one guy that actually plays the game very seriously. Usually makes good calls and does the right stuff. You are usually doing well playing as his buddy.


GREAT post. I laughed when I read your description of the demotivational guy and the boss. I've played with tons of dudes who follow their own plan regardless of what happens and then blame you when they die.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
March 24 2015 05:09 GMT
#23
My favorite thing to do is when someone on the team starts to rage, is just AFK until they admit they suck. I will sink the ship im on just to kill the captain, it feels great
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
March 26 2015 02:39 GMT
#24
First of all. I'm not a good player. I'm starting to get the hang of it and there's 3 heroes I can play will imo. We had someone who played the barb (what's her name again? anyway) and he/she didn't help in a single team fight. He got 1 kill/takedown the whole match because he accidentally walked by and hit some dude we killed on his way to take yet another merc camp while dying twice. The rest of the team didn't play badly. We held out quite longer than we should have. I wonder if he thinks he didn't do enough camps and should do more the next time to ensure he'll win.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 26 2015 03:05 GMT
#25
thats sonja for ya. Some like to focus on what their character excels at an ignore everything else.

Failed so hard, first time arthas second time spider map. Game nearing the end someone pings boss but doesn't go there while I summon the spiders. They ping again and I think it will be gone before they arrive ... Yeah other team was doing it and I decided to waveclear and lost the game for us >.< .
Haven't seen the other team go up there though and they were one person down.
ArgusDreamer
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada63 Posts
March 26 2015 10:23 GMT
#26
I hope there are some not revealed changes for gazlowe in the near future. Or i at least hope they are working on that hero.
Currently he's the most useless hero in the entire roster. Some kind of minor turret buff. or scaling changes in abilities/base hp regen or hp scaling(per level). Any change would make the hero less gimmicky. Overall the patch is a good thing though ! Love murky can't wait to see how good he'll do in the long run lol.
The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity.
Severian2012
Profile Joined March 2015
2 Posts
March 28 2015 18:42 GMT
#27
Just got out of a game where the enemy team captured its second Tribute on Cursed Hollow, (we had two at the time), and pushed mid and took our fort. Two members of our team said GG, one of them said "you guys are horrible, I'm doing my own thing" and proceeded to solo lane. When the enemy team inevitably took the 3rd Tribute, the same two sat afk at base, we were only 1 1/2 levels down... I mean what's the point in even playing the game?

Games like these make me wonder how old these people are, is it an age thing? Its like some people can't comprehend the fact that they could lose at something. Have any of them played a competitive sport, ever? Imagine seeing someone act like that in a pick up game of basketball at the park.

Is it that hard to play to the end of a game even if you know your going to lose? Is it possible to lose a game without blaming half your team?

Sorry, ending old man rant.

[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
March 28 2015 19:56 GMT
#28
It blows my mind that hero league players, with master skins, still don't know that they shouldn't fight in a 3 vs 5, and that leaving lanes alone is a bad idea.

I mean, lvl doesn't mean skill, but they have been playing for so long and they still don't know the very basics :/
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
NihilisticGod
Profile Joined March 2011
Northern Ireland174 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-28 21:12:40
March 28 2015 21:09 GMT
#29
On March 20 2015 20:55 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Quick match is no fun if you don't get healers and the enemy does


I QQ about the weird team comps you can sometimes get solo queuing in quick match. I know it's only a quick match but still sucks automatically having a rubbish game because of dumb team comps. Sometimes your 4 melee warriors and 1 support in a team can do it versus a more normal comp! Most often it's QQ time heh.

Edit: People who excessively use the ping feature in game all game long... need strung up by some of their internal parts.
Too weird to live... too rare to die.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
March 30 2015 03:46 GMT
#30
Just logged today. Why are the hero so expensive? I mean 10 bucks for a hero is kind of absurd. I mean they expect you to spend 400$ just to get full functionality out of the game? yeesh.

Also, does anyone know if we buy heros now in Beta will they carry over to release? (i.e. I wont have to buy them again)
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 04:44:17
March 30 2015 04:24 GMT
#31
That topic has been disscused a lot. 10 bucks is fine to me really (not to all people though), not all heroes cost that, and they decrease in price over time (anub arak used to cost 10k gold and 10 dollars last patch, now it cost 4k and like 3 dollars?). It is a problem if you want to own every hero, but for example I got 15 and there isn't really any other hero I want at the moment, and so I got 15k gold just sitting there.

But although it is fine to me, I understand why other people don't like it.

And yeah, Heroes will carry over to release :
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
PfiliTehDwarf
Profile Joined December 2006
Germany66 Posts
April 03 2015 09:37 GMT
#32
I played a game yesterday where we our Nova, Tychus and Tyrande tried to get the top boss on Cursed Hollow. It was an ok moment to do boss, since 2 enemies were on bottom and one was dead. I was right in the middle of doing a siege camp with Gazlowe so I was a bit late to the Party. Our 5th, Nazeebo was battling the two at the bottom and we were 2 levels up, so we were in ok shape.

So the 3 super squishies are trying to get boss and are basically down to 1/3 health when a tribute spawns right next to the it. Naturally, the rest of the enemy team (muradin&tyrande with diablo a bit behind) rush tribute and catch us doing boss. We hold on with Nova killing diablo and surviving barely. The boss also died during the fight. So 3 enemies are on 40 sec death timer and 2 are still at bottom (<insert randomd deity> knows why). Nova goes for the tribute first, the boss is not even a screensize away (doesnt matter, she has 40 seconds right?). She then proceeds to walk around for a bit, getting some exp on the top lane. By then I am pinging the boss camp with about 400 apm, writing in chat that the boss is dead and she literally just has to walk over and get it (the boss is dead, long live the boss). To no avail. The enemy team revives after 40 secs. just rightclicks their way to boss and gets him
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
April 03 2015 12:10 GMT
#33
As much fun as I find Kerrigan to be in a decent team, she is frustrating as all hell to play without a decent team.
Although I main Zagara (who is fun regardless of team) I went for Kerrigan as my second hero due to her playstyle and to fill the melee assassin slot.

Whereas Zagara can stay at range and has creep vision/speed, Kerrigan risks so much jumping into a fight.
If the team is decent, Kerrigan does well and can snatch many heroes back or just outright kill them, whereas a lot of heroes usually manage to get away from Zagara.

However, if the team is bad (e.g. not working together) Kerrigan feels plain bad.
She pounces in, lands her combo and then the enemy team just focuses her down and that's that.
No escape (since she has none other than Sprint at lvl 13) and she just dies so quick.
I barely notice her Trait other than fighting creeps/bosses.

Zagara is much more forgiving as I always go the Endless Creep talent and spread half the map with creep.
This usually grants me the movement speed / health regen bonus all the way back to my fort/keep and I always creep the side alleys and bushes so I can always see an ambush coming, but as Kerrigan I just keep dying unless my team is right next to me to help me out.

So often an objective has to be completed, I ping it and no one or just one hero goes for it.
As Zagara I can still harass/engage that but Kerrigan just dies trying.
At the same time, what else am I supposed to do with her, farm creeps/mercs? :/
I had more success playing Nova than Kerrigan, which feels odd given that Kerrigan can actually help with things other than killing heroes.

Also, how damage does Thrall do exactly? Every single time I go up against him as Kerrigan he literally burns through her health with (what seems to be) 3-4 attacks. Searing attacks, landing the combo, Blood for Blood and Maelstrom all don't make a damn difference against him. He goes down to 30-50% health and then he just insta-gibs me and half the time he does the same to the allied hero next to me.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
April 04 2015 16:52 GMT
#34
why people rage when i pick murky in hero league?
Yes im
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 04 2015 17:29 GMT
#35
they think you will take the murloc ult ? instead of the undodgeable single target moshpit.
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
April 04 2015 18:45 GMT
#36
On April 05 2015 01:52 ImFromPortugal wrote:
why people rage when i pick murky in hero league?


Because the train wreck of games murky left behind him when he was free to play a few weeks back is still fresh in everyone's mind. Played well he's an evil, irritating, octo-grabbing bastard.

Played in the hero league and someone picked him 'here we go I thought - sigh', holy shit the guy played the game like an orchestral conductor. I'm going to have to start renaming replays so I can find them later.. Had my eyes opened to how devilishly good murky can be when played smartly.

And blizzard, as mentioned in the OP..

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PINGS MORE.

Had a game the other night, and I swear on my life, the only ping this tit used was "retreat", and always like 4-5 of them. It's irritating as hell.

As a side note, late afternoon / early evening seems to be a time you get all the stuff mentioned in the OP far far too often.


Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Gotuso
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands733 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 16:44:39
April 06 2015 16:44 GMT
#37
Why do I keep falling for the Raynor trap? Every time I think "hey you know what, I'm going to give Jimmy another chance!". And every time he's still the same boring, terrible hero. Having only 1 ability and 2 set-and-forget ultimates is just so fucking boring, having him as an introduction hero is horrible marketing for the game.
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
April 07 2015 14:47 GMT
#38
On Raynor, you know...I've always thought that Tychus was the more interesting of the two similar starcraft ranged assasins. Raynor should definitely have been developed better...I mean I think he was a vulture in the original starcraft campaign? maybe I'm wrong. His knock back instead of a sprint back is more difficult to use than Tychus's and has a harder time escaping from multiple enemies...I don't understand Raynor as the starting hero at all either.

I think the Hyperion is fine as an ultimate, but his other powers are just not near as interesting as most other options. Compare him to Valla (two skill shots, vault escape), Tychus (spray, grenade, wind up/escape), falstad (boomerang, lightning, tumble escape)...Raynor's abilities are less interesting.

Raynor is harder to engage and harder to disengage and his powers are less impactful. They should rethink his abilities on a fun sense I would think. Totally agree with you.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
April 12 2015 15:13 GMT
#39
Ok seriously, people who AFK should have their beta access revoked, permanently.
Just lost two games in a row where both compositions were actually fine against each other but in game 1 our healer was AFK the entire time, not saying anything but not leaving either and costing us the entire game.
Game two had not one but TWO people who literally gave up after 2-3 minutes and just sat at the spawn doing nothing.
Absolutely disgusting to ruin a team game like that and there isn't even a category available in the Report function.
Again, such AFK behavior should be monitored ingame and assessed after a set amount of time + any reports.
Ban these idiots. Permanently. Please.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
April 12 2015 19:00 GMT
#40
Had someone say "Oh no, typical first-pick valla" in hero league after I asked for any preferences with complete silence as a response (he was 5.th pick). He continued to flame me throughout the pick-phase and the start of the game. Finally silenced when we dominated the other team at second dubloon turn-in and I continued to carry the team to victory.

I'm very happy about the rest of my teammates, but why in the hell do people feel the need to be so fucking toxic as this one guy? This game would otherwise be very enjoyable!
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