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Godzgift
Profile Joined July 2015
2 Posts
July 22 2015 09:48 GMT
#281
Couple of simple/potentially stupid questions
1. As valla against a single target should I use my w or does my auto attacks do more damage?
2. As Jaina what can I do against heroes such as illadin and nova when they seem to be focusing me and using invisibility/mobility to pounce on me?
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 22 2015 13:30 GMT
#282
On July 22 2015 18:48 Godzgift wrote:
Couple of simple/potentially stupid questions
1. As valla against a single target should I use my w or does my auto attacks do more damage?

You should time your w and other abilities in between your auto attacks so they supplement rather than replace them. Also be sure to learn how to stutter step/kite

Stutter Step/kiting tutorial:
+ Show Spoiler +


On July 22 2015 18:48 Godzgift wrote:
2. As Jaina what can I do against heroes such as illadin and nova when they seem to be focusing me and using invisibility/mobility to pounce on me?

There is a good Jaina guide here You need to master her combo to maximize your damage.

Depends on the level you are both at, but Jaina has limited mobility so positioning is key. Don't over extend. If it's early game and they are giving you problems, you are going to avoid pushing your lane too far where you can't retreat back to your towers if you don't have team support and you should lane with at least one other person. If you are at full health Nova can't kill you in one rotation without hitting with her ultimates which can be avoided. Of course she will do enough dmg to make you retreat if you don't get a heal. Don't roam or lane while injured if she is giving you problems or you will have no chance to respond. Learn how to spot the shimmer of her cloak when she moves invisible and how to tell which nova is the decoy. Ideally play some nova when she is free to play to get a feel for her strengths and weaknesses. If you don't see Nova on the mini map and she isn't dead, then assume she is hunting you. She has no wave clear or merc hunting abilities. Learn to predict which side of the lane she is likely to come from and shade the other side which means you will have a better chance of spotting her cloaked before she attacks. If you catch nova while she is cloaked she will usually die.

During team fights it's partially going to be up to your team to keep other dps off of you and/or keep you healed. Again positioning is key so you are always behind your tanks. Occasionally you will hide in bushes to flank and cast your combo, but you need to move back to safety as soon as you cast, and with practice you can do the whole combo almost instantly. Iceblock is also a nice talent for team fights at 13 and bolt of the storm for escapes at 20.

Because Jaina does almost all her damage from her abilities, evasion doesn't help Illidan until he gets Sixth Sense at level 13. Frostbite's slow makes it hard to stick on you. If you land the combo and Illidan doesn't have any defensive cool downs or heals he will probably die.

A lot of survivability counts on team mates to help protect you and if you are playing with equally inexperienced team mates then that won't always happen. With quick matches you sometimes won't have a tank or healer, and if you do they may not know what they are doing. Just stick with team mates as best you can, stay in the back in between casts and if you are injured and not fighting over an objective or in a position where you are likely to be healed then you should probably retreat and heal and coming back rather than continue to fight. Lots of new players will have a great team fight win, then keep pushing while out of mana and below half health with no chance of ending the game before the enemy respawns. Know when to retreat, use V to ping the map and tell your team mates if possible and if they ignore you, don't die with them if it isn't a game over if you don't win it fight.

This video also has some good tips on positioning:
+ Show Spoiler +


Even though this video is about Kael'Thas who has more range than Jaina, many of the concepts do apply as another caster who has high dmg and low mobility. The main difference positioning wise being that Jaina does sometimes flank thru bushes and has to get closer to land her abilities. You still want to stay behind your tank or out of sight before you cast and make sure you have a reasonable retreat path to safety after you cast.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
July 22 2015 17:02 GMT
#283
The key to stopping Illidan as Jaina is Numbing Blast. Stay with your team at all times and if he jumps you just freeze him in place and unload some damage while retreating a little bit (not completely away from your team though) and if you also have Improved Ice Block he'll never be able to kill you unless your whole team just dies. It will make going after you pointless and ideally he'll switch targets for you to concentrate on damage.
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HewTheTitan
Profile Joined February 2015
Canada331 Posts
July 22 2015 21:20 GMT
#284
I'm not sure where to look for event replay packs. Can anybody direct me?
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 21:30:46
July 22 2015 21:30 GMT
#285
On July 23 2015 06:20 HewTheTitan wrote:
I'm not sure where to look for event replay packs. Can anybody direct me?

You won't be able to get replay packs for this game yet. Right now every time Blizzard releases a patch or hotfix all replays break and are unusable, which is basically every few days. You'll have to watch VODs for events.

Here's the VODs from this last weekend's July NA Open.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9WtwA1r0_TYnyF9LiFO-EQgl9RTQsMXh
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 21:36:50
July 22 2015 21:34 GMT
#286
Frost Armor at 7 can also be really effective against both Nova, Zeratul and Illidan. You lose some damage, but you do no damage when your dead. Frost Armor Chills enemies who attack you, and blocks an attack every 8 seconds, reducing it by 75% dmg which can really help with that initial burst.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
July 22 2015 23:22 GMT
#287
Does anyone ever get random keyboard errors? Every now and then I'll enter a game and find that none of my hotkeys work - yesterday q and w were always cast on my hero while e was pinging.

I could hit enter to start typing a message (with a random player defaulted), but when I tried to hit enter to send it... it would just cycle me to another player.

I had to go to keyboard and hit 'restore defaults' to get things to work again, but was wondering if anyone has encountered this and had a more permanent solution.
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
July 22 2015 23:34 GMT
#288
I have this after alt-tabing. Try pressing and releasing alt.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
July 23 2015 00:46 GMT
#289
Alrite, will see if that fixes it more cleanly.

I'm playing in fullscreen-windowed mode so I do alt-tab a lot.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
July 23 2015 01:00 GMT
#290
Yeah that happens to me in sc2, I fix it by alt tabbing again.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Godzgift
Profile Joined July 2015
2 Posts
July 23 2015 15:53 GMT
#291
Wow thank you karazax wasn't expecting such an indepth response really informative thank you
Mnemic
Profile Joined April 2010
Botswana80 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 16:58:32
July 23 2015 16:58 GMT
#292
On July 23 2015 06:20 HewTheTitan wrote:
I'm not sure where to look for event replay packs. Can anybody direct me?


gosugamers VOD archive is ok. http://www.gosugamers.net/heroesofthestorm/vods
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
July 24 2015 20:18 GMT
#293
When using Illidan, to maximise single target DPS assuming we are both standing still for the sake of argument, do I use my Q and W or just auto? I think I use pretty standard build except often take immolation at LVL 4 rather than the dive talent, does this make any difference to the answer?
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
July 24 2015 20:38 GMT
#294
Don't Q, it reduces your dps, just use W. He is designed in a way that if you atack constantly you'll be able to have the bonus W gives permanently.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
July 24 2015 20:46 GMT
#295
BTW, Immolation is standard at lvl 4, not Dive augment. Dive is just for chasing, not for dps. It can also be used for escape (walls and minions) in certain situations.

That said, I haven't played Illidan since the unstoppable changes so maybe his build/playstyle has changed to adapt.
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-24 21:16:28
July 24 2015 21:15 GMT
#296
Thanks guys, some guy was flaming me for Qing too much in a hero league match...advice is good and doesn't need to be given condescendingly. I'm not an expert for all heroes...yet!
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
August 06 2015 11:15 GMT
#297
Hi,
I recently sarted playing The Lost Vikings in Hero League enyoing them a lot.
Still can't find the answer to one question bothering me...
If you want to soak XP from a lane (with Eric) and have the two remaining Vikings on one lane or object together, is there a way to controll 1 and 2 at once? Like binding controll groups in Starcraft or something? I actually think I would be better controlling the Vikings by selecting them with my Mouse and bind them to Numbers as needed in different situations.

Maybe it's just my Starcraft background and I have to get used to it. Or is there a way to change this in the settings?
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
August 06 2015 11:34 GMT
#298
There was a way but it got removed some time ago.
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
August 06 2015 12:46 GMT
#299
On August 06 2015 20:34 Garbels wrote:
There was a way but it got removed some time ago.


Do you know why they removed it?
Where players getting to good with vikings?
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
August 06 2015 21:05 GMT
#300
No sorry I don't think there was a statement.
I don't think it was balance but I can only speculate.
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