Nefarian should be heavily favored as long as you heropower every turn. There are a lot of spells which are useful when they cost 0... Rag runs out of cards and takes too much damage early fighting for board control with his weapon.

Feels a bit like custom-maps in sc2. I seriously hope people could make their own brawls with custom cards at some point!

Sei Shin Casios

Germany13 Posts

June 17 2015 20:46 GMT

#103

i had some fun games, and i will have some more with my riends over the weekend.

then next wednesday we will have a new mode, some more fun games, a free pack which is easy to obtain and perhaps a game mode you can put some thought into.

so far its great for me, i love it.

and as said, its just the first week. there will be custom decks and even buffs for specific minions. id love to play pirate or murloc decks!

darkscream

Canada2310 Posts

June 17 2015 20:54 GMT

#104

It's pretty fun. I like that it rewards gold and does (some) quests if applicable, as well as the free pack. Why's it track total wins though? Hopefully it saves that number in some sorta record.

As for the balance, my gf wrecked me with nefarian a couple times, but when I hit ladder I got nef 3x in a row and lost. Seems reasonably balanced.

NewSunshine

United States5938 Posts

June 17 2015 20:54 GMT

#105

first pack gave me 40 dust

i don't give a shit, this mode's awesome

Came Norrection

Canada168 Posts

June 17 2015 21:54 GMT

#106

Rag is just complete crap. Its way too easy for Naf to get one of the 20 spells that instantly wins him the game. Even if you reach late game as rag, you are usually very low and any damage will kill you. Just hero power every turn and you will still win 70% of lategame because you get free card advantage with your hero power while rag has to RNG to hit the right minion. If rag doesn't draw enough AOEs, its completely 1 sided its not even funny.

AssumedNewb

France0 Posts

June 17 2015 22:13 GMT

#107

Concept is cool, execution sucks.

I don't know if Nef can get Onyxia, as it's so one sided Rag has 0 chance to win

NovaAurora

United States0 Posts

June 17 2015 22:34 GMT

#108

I can see HOW Rag could win but I'm in the same boat as several others, have yet to lose as Nefarian and yet to win as Rag. Seems like the only way is if you mulligan into your OP 2 drops and draw several of your board clears (Brawl guy, living bomb) early.

I can't see myself really playing much more of it but I like that it's there and it's something new to play, looking forward much more to if/when players can create their own custom decks but with specific rules and cards.

killa_robot

Canada1884 Posts

June 17 2015 23:16 GMT

#109

Nefarian is easily the favoured hero here. Rag can stand a chance if Nef has bad variance, and if he has early cards, but it's REALLY Nef favoured.

Still fun though.

EDIT: Scratch that, it's fun when you're NOT Rag.

Hier

2391 Posts

June 17 2015 23:34 GMT

#110

Ragnaros is easily favoured. Nefarian really has to get lucky with the spell draws to win. Rag is also far more fun, since he has all the OP cards.

calgar

United States1277 Posts

June 17 2015 23:43 GMT

#111

On June 18 2015 08:34 Hier wrote:
Ragnaros is easily favoured. Nefarian really has to get lucky with the spell draws to win. Rag is also far more fun, since he has all the OP cards.

I guess you haven't seen Nefarian win in 5 turns with Vael.

prodigalsunset

Australia0 Posts

June 18 2015 00:46 GMT

#112

I have played 5 games, four as Nefarian, one as Ragnaros, and won all five. Granted, I was on 1 health when I won with Ragnaros.

It feels like Nefarian is favoured.

Best moment: Opponent had that minion that generates a random legendary. Gave him Majordomo. Next turn, he was on 8 health (from about 52), gg. Fun stuff!

Circumstance

United States11403 Posts

June 18 2015 01:10 GMT

#113

I'd agree that Nefarian has a small advantage, but it's exactly that - a small advantage. I've had a good number of wins as Rag so far.

More importantly, I've had a blast. This is really fun, especially in small doses. Play 3 or 4 Tavern Brawls as a breather from a bad run on ladder, your salt is gone.

Doc Daneeka

United States577 Posts

June 18 2015 01:46 GMT

#114

Tons of fun. I'm very happy with this, and it's only the first out of however many are to come. I wonder if they'll repeat brawls eventually or if they're actually going to do a brand new one every week from now on. I really hope they keep giving you a pack for your first win in the current week's brawl too - earning rewards is a big part of why I keep playing matches in this game. On that note, my only complaint would be that there's no incentive to keep playing it after you get the first win. I'll probably play it sporadically for shits and giggles, but after the pack my instinct is to go back to ladder and keep ranking up/completing dailies. My suggestion would be for them to eventually add some sort of reward system for getting many wins in a given brawl.

Overall definitely a great addition to the game. I'm not all that concerned about imbalances between the decks considering it'll be wiped on Monday.

(and to respond to all this Rag vs Nef stuff, I rolled Ragnaros all three games I played and I still had fun, so nyuh.)

radscorpion9

Canada2252 Posts

June 18 2015 01:59 GMT

#115

I agree rag is pretty bad. He has some spells like living bomb and the deal 6 damage guy, not to mention the brawl dude. But the good cards are few and far between. The inclusion of the flame imp is just a bad joke. Most games Nefarian just puts in way too much damage to recover, unless nefarian gets a bad draw. I only managed to win one game with rag so far, but I was lucky I had the board clear brawling guy or I would have been dead. Also it depends on Rag getting the right RNG with his 8 damage hero power

killa_robot

Canada1884 Posts

June 18 2015 02:06 GMT

#116

On June 18 2015 10:10 Circumstance wrote:
I'd agree that Nefarian has a small advantage, but it's exactly that - a small advantage. I've had a good number of wins as Rag so far.

More importantly, I've had a blast. This is really fun, especially in small doses. Play 3 or 4 Tavern Brawls as a breather from a bad run on ladder, your salt is gone.

A "small" advantage, you say...

Bannt

United States73 Posts

June 18 2015 04:20 GMT

#117

hahaha this mode is awesome so far. They really managed to capture an agro vs control matchup with crazy cards. I played about 15 games and nef does seem really powerful, but it's really "bursty". As nef i found myself nervous and wondering if i was if i was going to get the right stuff to pull off the victory. Rag just feels solid, it's like you always have the tools to win and just have to avoid getting hit with a crazy combo/opening.

Hier

2391 Posts

June 18 2015 04:38 GMT

#118

It really depends on Nef's opening. If Nefarian doesn't win within the first 4 or so turns he auto-loses. Currently 4W2L as Rag, and 1W3L as Nef.

Bannt

United States73 Posts

June 18 2015 04:46 GMT

#119

On June 18 2015 13:38 Hier wrote:
It really depends on Nef's opening. If Nefarian doesn't win within the first 4 or so turns he auto-loses. Currently 4W2L as Rag, and 1W3L as Nef.

Nef certainly doesn't auto lose after the first 4 turns. I've won several drawn out games with him that neither player had a clear advantage until well into the game. Other than some OP combos, the matchup is actually quite good.

Malhavoc

Italy308 Posts

June 18 2015 06:57 GMT

#120

Played two games, one for each, won both.

In the Nefarian game I played as control, activating the hero power every turn. Even if most of the spells where actually bad (got whirlwind and unleash the hounds among them), I won anyway. When Rag got the 8 damage hero power, I swarmed the battlefield with the "fill board with 2/2 dragons". Twice. And then and Onyxia for 6 1/1. Ragnaros' cleaned board twice, but against the continuous swarm, his hero power was useless.

As Ragnaros, I rushed to upgrade the hero power hitting minions or face every turn, and keeping the board clean with creatures. I was probably lucky that Nefarian did not get the chance to swarm the board, and the hero power got me the win. But it was indeed a closer game, and I was probably a bit lucky. I feel the correct play with Ragnaros may be to keep the board clean and win through upgraded hero power, but a couple of the cards Nefarian can play (and I played as Nefarian) really thwart this strategy.

I noticed that the game wins counted towards the "win 3 games" daily. And I think towards the "3 wins for 10 gold" reward too.

Overall, nice thing to play just to mess a bit, but no more than a couple of games. There's no reason to play it more.