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So here's a random topic for discussion.
Discounting the old UtH OTK, and the current UtH rush decks, hunter has always been considered weaker. A large part of this is due to his one-track hero power being useless outside of aggro, and the fact that slow burn decks aren't really good (and if they don't have burst, get Molten giant'd for free.
If you were Blizzard, what would you use as a Hunter power instead, that fits thematically and is unique? The only thing I can think of is a pet buff. Control Pet: Give a friendly minion +1 / +1 until the end of this turn.
It lets hunters trade favourably, maybe keep a key unit alive. I was thinking JUST the damage buff, but then it would be, essentially, a weaker Fireblast.
Any thoughts or ideas? Obviously this is just for fun, as the game is now in open beta and unlikely to be changed, but still.
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On January 22 2014 18:25 Complete wrote:@the person above, I got to rank 10 with free cards + 2 harvest golems and like a scarlet crusader last season. You can do better! 
This doesn't quite hold true. The deck I'm using right now was rank 5 or higher last season but tops out around rank 15 this season. If your deck was rank 10 last season it would pretty much be stuck at 20 this season.
A general rule of thumb, from my experiences...
Rank 20 is a freebie. Once you get there you can't really get any lower. Sure, it might still be hard to get there but eventually everyone will. This is where the problems begin.
Rank 20: Majority of decks have at least one legendary and multiple epics/rares.
Rank 17: Majority of decks have at least two legendaries and multiple epics/rares.
Rank 15: Pretty much every deck at this point is fully fleshed out, with most having 3-5 legendaries. You also start running into people that have full gold decks quite frequently.
Basically once you hit rank 15 everyone you play has either spent hundreds of dollars on cards or has grinded thousands of hours worth of games. The exception to this is people that use decks like the UTH Hunter deck or certain other aggro decks that don't require any good cards to function.
Point is that you really can't compare this season to last season at all because the gap in cards is noticeably larger now for someone who is just starting (and will only continue to get worse). I can't imagine how all these open beta players feel when they can't even play matches against anything but bots because of how quickly they will just get destroyed by all of their opponents.
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Hmm, I'm pretty sure my friend, who is rank 13 currently, is using a mostly rare/epic pally deck with no legendaries. I almost beat him with basic/common priest deck that I had just whipped up for kicks. He may have made some improvements in the last week or two but I'm just going off that one anecdotal point
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Your friend must be getting some lucky opponents. I've been tracking my match statistics in a spreadsheet and over my last 100 games I've only faced 13 people that didn't have a legendary past rank 20. 47 matches involved three or more. Does he play at odd hours? I've found playing in the early morning at 3-5am nearly doubles my winrate, even vs legendaries, as the players I encounter during those hours tend to be less skilled overall.
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On January 22 2014 22:05 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:35 Khul Sadukar wrote:
It's not just 1 or 2 people though. All these r20s so far have had killer decks that combo well with legendaries and epics. I'm going back to casual games for a while till I can afford something like that. Been playing all night and just running into this wall. They're smurfs grinding rank 20 for easy wins and gold.
Hey I leave grind on my main account and I win with two dust devils and two wisps! 
(and hunter UTH...)
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Ok I have to ask has anyone else seen a HUGE increase in leave farmers since the open beta?
I just did my daily without having to play a single game
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On January 23 2014 01:14 Drazerk wrote:
Ok I have to ask has anyone else seen a HUGE increase in leave farmers since the open beta?
I just did my daily without having to play a single game
Yeah, sorta. 7 games in... first four were all frozen and had to alt+f4 (losses for both players). The next three were all leavers and instant wins for me.
It might not be that people are actually leaving, though. The game is just buggy as shit lately with failed-to-start games and disconnects.
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On January 23 2014 00:36 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 18:25 Complete wrote:@the person above, I got to rank 10 with free cards + 2 harvest golems and like a scarlet crusader last season. You can do better! This doesn't quite hold true. The deck I'm using right now was rank 5 or higher last season but tops out around rank 15 this season. If your deck was rank 10 last season it would pretty much be stuck at 20 this season. A general rule of thumb, from my experiences... Rank 20 is a freebie. Once you get there you can't really get any lower. Sure, it might still be hard to get there but eventually everyone will. This is where the problems begin. Rank 20: Majority of decks have at least one legendary and multiple epics/rares. Rank 17: Majority of decks have at least two legendaries and multiple epics/rares. Rank 15: Pretty much every deck at this point is fully fleshed out, with most having 3-5 legendaries. You also start running into people that have full gold decks quite frequently. Basically once you hit rank 15 everyone you play has either spent hundreds of dollars on cards or has grinded thousands of hours worth of games. The exception to this is people that use decks like the UTH Hunter deck or certain other aggro decks that don't require any good cards to function. Point is that you really can't compare this season to last season at all because the gap in cards is noticeably larger now for someone who is just starting (and will only continue to get worse). I can't imagine how all these open beta players feel when they can't even play matches against anything but bots because of how quickly they will just get destroyed by all of their opponents.
Dunno, you might be right as I haven't tried playing ranked hard yet (if I will at all) this season, but I'm rank 15 by just doing quests atm and it didn't seem too difficult  but then again I do have a few more cards now from grinding some arena. Still not many/any epics and my only legendary is milhouse manastorm that I don't use. Maybe that means I'm getting a bit better :D
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qucik quest ion
i havent played for weeks and had some quests half done when i came back today
i completed 2 of the quests already and they were immediately replaced with 2 new ones ready to go
completed my third quest but it didnt get replaced with a new one
not sure if this is written about anywher
im guessing 2 of my 3 quests were already started and the 3rd one hadnt been started so wasnt replaced
i guess in conclusion what we might take away from this is that if you're not going to play for 1 day, make sure you've started your quests so when you come back you get 2 sets of quests to do
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On January 23 2014 02:48 FFGenerations wrote:
qucik quest ion
i havent played for weeks and had some quests half done when i came back today
i completed 2 of the quests already and they were immediately replaced with 2 new ones ready to go
completed my third quest but it didnt get replaced with a new one
not sure if this is written about anywher
im guessing 2 of my 3 quests were already started and the 3rd one hadnt been started so wasnt replaced
i guess in conclusion what we might take away from this is that if you're not going to play for 1 day, make sure you've started your quests so when you come back you get 2 sets of quests to do
This sounds weird. I think it's bugs.
The way it used to work is you got a quest everyday at 4AM EST for North America and if you missed that then too bad.
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On January 23 2014 00:55 Serejai wrote:
Your friend must be getting some lucky opponents. I've been tracking my match statistics in a spreadsheet and over my last 100 games I've only faced 13 people that didn't have a legendary past rank 20. 47 matches involved three or more. Does he play at odd hours? I've found playing in the early morning at 3-5am nearly doubles my winrate, even vs legendaries, as the players I encounter during those hours tend to be less skilled overall.
I'd like to redact my statement as he has several legendaries now (notably leeroy, rag, ysera). So lame, still waiting for my first TT
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LOL i just went from rank 25 to 16 using my random questing decks without dropping a single game, then pull out my pro rogue deck and this immediately happens:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/V1rKpfe.jpg)
thats like
him: turn 3 shattered sun
me: turn 3 golem
him: turn 4 blessing of kings
me: turn 4 yeti
him: turn 5 blessing of kings
me: ......i'm on 9 health
him: gave it divine shield lol
edit: getting extra quests might not be a bug - i didnt log in for like 3 weeks. if it was a bug then maybe due to coming out of beta or server reset or something like that but it seems more likely that you get quests refreshed if you've been away (for 3 weeks)and came back with half finished ones
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Anyone not getting any new daily quests? I have gone 3 days with 0 daily quests.
I am aware that they disabled cancelling daily quests:
"There is an issue that may sometimes prevent a player from cancelling a quest, or when cancelling a quest, not replacing the cancelled quest with a replacement. The ability to cancel quests has been temporarily disabled while we continue to investigate this issue."
However, I'm not receiving any new quests.
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I didn't get one yesterday. I've been having to play a few games before I get my other quests on the other days, if that makes sense.
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On January 23 2014 05:24 willoc wrote:
Anyone not getting any new daily quests? I have gone 3 days with 0 daily quests.
I am aware that they disabled cancelling daily quests:
"There is an issue that may sometimes prevent a player from cancelling a quest, or when cancelling a quest, not replacing the cancelled quest with a replacement. The ability to cancel quests has been temporarily disabled while we continue to investigate this issue."
However, I'm not receiving any new quests.
Got one after playing my first game. My first game wasn't at 4AM either.
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On January 22 2014 22:05 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:35 Khul Sadukar wrote:
It's not just 1 or 2 people though. All these r20s so far have had killer decks that combo well with legendaries and epics. I'm going back to casual games for a while till I can afford something like that. Been playing all night and just running into this wall. They're smurfs grinding rank 20 for easy wins and gold.
What's the point of grinding ranked as opposed to casual?
I was stomping casual games with my buff centric Priest deck, which I then took to ranked and got smashed lol. Redone the whole deck since and doing much better now, but it seems faster to grind casual games then ranked.
@Serejai
That's completely true. I just commented something similar on Force Strategy's recent Hearthstone vid. I feel sorry for the new guys coming in. Hopefully they all get matched up against each other lol.
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Im hitting a huge wall right now. Cant get pass rank 10 for the life of me.
And it always infuriates me when I lose to hunters when all they do is go for face damage and nothing else.
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On January 23 2014 11:17 Khul Sadukar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 22:05 obesechicken13 wrote:On January 22 2014 21:35 Khul Sadukar wrote:
It's not just 1 or 2 people though. All these r20s so far have had killer decks that combo well with legendaries and epics. I'm going back to casual games for a while till I can afford something like that. Been playing all night and just running into this wall. They're smurfs grinding rank 20 for easy wins and gold. What's the point of grinding ranked as opposed to casual? I was stomping casual games with my buff centric Priest deck, which I then took to ranked and got smashed lol. Redone the whole deck since and doing much better now, but it seems faster to grind casual games then ranked. @Serejai That's completely true. I just commented something similar on Force Strategy's recent Hearthstone vid. I feel sorry for the new guys coming in. Hopefully they all get matched up against each other lol.
What is the point of a smurf is the better question. You can't trade cards so...
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On January 23 2014 11:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 11:17 Khul Sadukar wrote:On January 22 2014 22:05 obesechicken13 wrote:On January 22 2014 21:35 Khul Sadukar wrote:
It's not just 1 or 2 people though. All these r20s so far have had killer decks that combo well with legendaries and epics. I'm going back to casual games for a while till I can afford something like that. Been playing all night and just running into this wall. They're smurfs grinding rank 20 for easy wins and gold. What's the point of grinding ranked as opposed to casual? I was stomping casual games with my buff centric Priest deck, which I then took to ranked and got smashed lol. Redone the whole deck since and doing much better now, but it seems faster to grind casual games then ranked. @Serejai That's completely true. I just commented something similar on Force Strategy's recent Hearthstone vid. I feel sorry for the new guys coming in. Hopefully they all get matched up against each other lol. What is the point of a smurf is the better question. You can't trade cards so...
Not enough gold on the main account I guess for the amount of time you want to play? If you can't continuously Arena on 1 account, you probably can on two to fill your time.
I suppose you could also "specialize" an account and disenchant anything that isn't a particular class so you can play constructed competitively quickly.
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