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On January 11 2014 01:36 RagequitBM wrote:
Why is backseat gaming while watching a stream so much easier than actual playing for me. When I watch Kripp I can guess what he's going to do everytime. Then when I rewatch my own stream, I make the dumbest mistakes. So weird.
Yea, I hear you. Watching streams, I often see multiple possibilities right off the bat AND I often tease out what appears to be the most efficient play very quickly. When I play and I'm not too tired, I try to step outside of the game and myself to view the situation more objectively. Still, not as easy as backseat driving.
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On January 09 2014 04:29 caelym wrote:
Anyone else feel like cairne is becoming the next sylvanas? Midrange board control is all the craze and cairne tips the balance hugely for one side.
Good point. He makes sense post-Argent Commander nerf. I underrated him until I started playing him in my Warrior deck. While he obviously can't charge, he is much harder to remove than AC. He baits silences. He can withstand AOE: not much flamestrike these days, but even with ping/flamestrike, a 4/5 remains and Blizzard only dents him, equality consecrate/equality pyro = two cards to kill half of him. Without AOE, he often 3-for-1s or requires two cards and a hero power to take out. If you drop him on an empty board, you are almost guaranteed to have a minion standing on the next turn.
The Sunwalker is sort of a poor-man's Cairne, but with the Black Knight antics over the past month, I've found Sunwalker to be a liability. I've been only happy with the results since I crafted Cairne.
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I don't think you can compare Cairne to Sylvannas beyond that both draws enemy silence spells. Cairne is like an expensive version of harvest golem, a bit too slow in many aggro matchups. Many times I cast him when I'm pretty low, and the enemy proceeds to ignore him and kills me.
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On January 11 2014 03:49 Glacierz wrote:
I don't think you can compare Cairne to Sylvannas beyond that both draws enemy silence spells. Cairne is like an expensive version of harvest golem, a bit too slow in many aggro matchups. Many times I cast him when I'm pretty low, and the enemy proceeds to ignore him and kills me.
I think he means "the new Sylvanus" as in, the Legendary that fits in almost any deck--not that he impacts game decisions/mechanics in the same way as Sylvanus.
tl;dr Cairne as a FOTM.
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what skatbone said. cairne is becoming part of the midrange core (novice engineer, harvest golem, defender of argus, sylvanas).
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On January 11 2014 04:09 caelym wrote:
what skatbone said. cairne is becoming part of the midrange core (novice engineer, harvest golem, defender of argus, sylvanas).
To be fair, amongst high level streamers, I mostly see him run in Druid decks and Warrior Control decks. I run him in both of these decks and I love him in the Warrior deck. I've laddered against Paladins using him. And one Warlock. But watching high level legendary streams at the end of last season, he wasn't nearly as ubiquitous as Sylvanus--Mages, Rogues, and Warlocks weren't generally running him.
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On January 11 2014 02:32 skatbone wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 01:36 RagequitBM wrote:
Why is backseat gaming while watching a stream so much easier than actual playing for me. When I watch Kripp I can guess what he's going to do everytime. Then when I rewatch my own stream, I make the dumbest mistakes. So weird. Yea, I hear you. Watching streams, I often see multiple possibilities right off the bat AND I often tease out what appears to be the most efficient play very quickly. When I play and I'm not too tired, I try to step outside of the game and myself to view the situation more objectively. Still, not as easy as backseat driving.
1. The cards are smaller on stream than in-game so your eyes don't have to move around to view all the available options.
2. When you lose or make a bad decision and realize it you go on tilt a bit. It adds up.
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pfft, I was running Cairne before it was FOTM!
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Just realized that murloc card that gives +2 health to murlocs is permanent and not like blood imp. Oops.
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Having a hard time against control druid recently with a Tempo Rogue deck. :/
Any advice ?
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When do you think molten giants/OTK warrior is going to get nerfed, and how?
I think maybe Molten Giants are going to get a minimum cost of 1 or 2 mana, and the card charge will get nerfed to cost of 1 mana. That might make some OTK still possible, but a lot easier to beat.
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On January 12 2014 04:11 jrkirby wrote:
When do you think molten giants/OTK warrior is going to get nerfed, and how?
I think maybe Molten Giants are going to get a minimum cost of 1 or 2 mana, and the card charge will get nerfed to cost of 1 mana. That might make some OTK still possible, but a lot easier to beat.
By themselves charge is really weak and molten giant is only acceptably strong but requires combos since you're doing nothing on a turn where you have under 20 life.
I doubt charge will see any more nerfs. It would be nice if charge were nerfed since it's only used in otk decks I think, just like doomsayer is only used in frost decks. This way you don't affect other decks.
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On January 12 2014 04:21 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 04:11 jrkirby wrote:
When do you think molten giants/OTK warrior is going to get nerfed, and how?
I think maybe Molten Giants are going to get a minimum cost of 1 or 2 mana, and the card charge will get nerfed to cost of 1 mana. That might make some OTK still possible, but a lot easier to beat. By themselves charge is really weak and molten giant is only acceptably strong but requires combos since you're doing nothing on a turn where you have under 20 life. I doubt charge will see any more nerfs. It would be nice if charge were nerfed since it's only used in otk decks I think, just like doomsayer is only used in frost decks. This way you don't affect other decks.
Actually, maybe charge will get a psedo-nerf: 1 or 2 manacost, but draw a card. That would be a nerf to the OTK ability of it, but a buff to the full card.
I really think molten giant + warsong + brewmaster will get some kind of nerf. I don't think OTK is blizzard's intention.
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Anyone still running Beef Stew? I started Constructed today and i think it doesn't work anymore (at least for me). Having done with it before but now everyone seems to have an answer for the low cost low health spam that is Beef Stew.
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On January 12 2014 05:27 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 04:21 obesechicken13 wrote:On January 12 2014 04:11 jrkirby wrote:
When do you think molten giants/OTK warrior is going to get nerfed, and how?
I think maybe Molten Giants are going to get a minimum cost of 1 or 2 mana, and the card charge will get nerfed to cost of 1 mana. That might make some OTK still possible, but a lot easier to beat. By themselves charge is really weak and molten giant is only acceptably strong but requires combos since you're doing nothing on a turn where you have under 20 life. I doubt charge will see any more nerfs. It would be nice if charge were nerfed since it's only used in otk decks I think, just like doomsayer is only used in frost decks. This way you don't affect other decks. Actually, maybe charge will get a psedo-nerf: 1 or 2 manacost, but draw a card. That would be a nerf to the OTK ability of it, but a buff to the full card. I really think molten giant + warsong + brewmaster will get some kind of nerf. I don't think OTK is blizzard's intention.
Warriors then gonna plunge back into uselessness
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Made top 8 in today's managrind. I wouldn't be surprised if all the top 4 are mages. GGs to all my opponents. I have to say that sideboarding is really hard in HS. Cards only give a marginal advantage and that's only if you draw them at the right time. Maybe I'm just too used to MTG where sideboard cards can change the matchup entirely.
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Does anyone have opinions on Baron Geddon in a strict control Druid deck? I've been using him for a bit around rank 2-3, and he has quickly become one of my favorite cards.
Anyone else have success/horror stories?
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One of the winners of the 2P NA vs CN earned some money, and has a room full of groupies now. Doing the ladder climb pretty good watch. http://www.twitch.tv/spikemcfang
Shaman wow!
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ahahaha that krip epic game of warrior vs warrior with 50hp.
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EPT
