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On January 10 2017 00:46 ViZe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 03:31 DinoMight wrote:So.... I got Pyroblasted in the face 2 turns in a row yesterday. Guy was playing a RENO DECK. But I guess his Babbling book gave him a Pyroblast and he was running a second one (because he's bad?) What the actual fuck??? https://www.rekt.gg/show_video/5299 (sorry about audio.. had speakers on :/ ) a lot of people are playing a reno mage version with inkmaster solia and pyroblast. it's really not bad at all because you can pair it with frost bolt/ice lance, fireball, or roaring torch for 15+ after alexstrasza. it was in noblords rank 1 legend list.
Yes, but 2 Pyroblasts? And to be clear, he actually runs 2 in his list! If a card is given to you, per say, by Babbling Book, it says so when the card is played. But at both Pyroblasts there was no such text, which means that guy actually runs 2 in his Reno deck. He is at rank 20 for a reason, but still.
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This expansion has really ruined control decks for me.
Control mirrors used to be a nice thign since you could generally avoid any of the rng inherent in early game decks. They were slow, but most losses could be traced to misplays or matchups. But now there is Kazakus aka Yogg 2.0, Drakonid Operative aka get a free Sylvanas, rag, or , and Dirty Rat aka spend 20 minutes of your time only to have your win condition get pulled.
Playing against aggro 95 percent of the time revolves around not dying by turn 6, and then playing Reno. Any other sequence of events is pretty much a loss. Sometimes you win because the aggro deck draws like shit, but that's rare, or the pirate warrior is retarded and doesn't kill your water ele and gets frozen every turn for the rest of the game.
Babbling book, kabal courier, kazakus, dark peddler, drakonid operative, dirty rat, cabalists tome, are all commonly played and extremely random in the outcomes they give. sometimes babbling book gives you shatter or arcane missiles, sometimes it gives you a second polymorph or fireball. sometimes kazakus only gives you options that kill your minions and mill you, and sometimes it makes a 5 mana flamestrike that draws you 2 cards. Drakonid Operative is probably the most tilting one, since there is no downside at all to playign a 5/6 dragon in your deck, not to mention one that will frequently give you shit like rag, siphon, or sylvanas to play on a later turn.
I really need to stop playing this game, for my sanity.
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your Country52797 Posts
^ seriously?
But now there is Kazakus aka Yogg 2.0
Except Kazakus requires a reasonable amount of skill to use properly and is, for once, actually interactive. Pretty often you're going to go in looking for something but end up getting a potion that's slightly different. You can also play around Kazakus way, way more than you ever could around Yogg.
Drakonid Operative aka get a free Sylvanas, rag, or ,
Whatever the third thing you were going to say was, the only problem with Drakonid Operative is that it's way overstatted. It should be Blackwing Corrupter stats (or worse) instead. Yes it's still bullshit and I don't like having it played against me, but the card draw is not the problem at all.
Dirty Rat aka spend 20 minutes of your time only to have your win condition get pulled.
This is only relevant when both players are playing control, and I'm pretty sure that control decks have a lot more than 1-2 ways to win the game.
Playing against aggro 95 percent of the time revolves around not dying by turn 6, and then playing Reno. Any other sequence of events is pretty much a loss.
This just isn't true, unless you're playing warlock.
sometimes kazakus only gives you options that kill your minions and mill you, and sometimes it makes a 5 mana flamestrike that draws you 2 cards.
You just described the exact same potion twice.
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100% of Rogue, Shaman and Warrior decks are running Patches (Miracle is running it too). 100% of Mage and Warlock decks are running Kazakus. Priests are about 60% Kazakus, 40% dragon and most of the Kazakus decks are dragons anyway.
Seen one Hunter all month, zero Paladins and the odd Jade Idol druid.
I think this might just be the single least diverse meta in HS history. Every played class is using the same archetype.
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I'm getting mocked for my f2p with weasel tunnelers it seems. Yesterday I got a golden one, today I got two from three packs, on top of the two I already had.
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 11 2017 12:56 Orcasgt24 wrote:
100% of Rogue, Shaman and Warrior decks are running Patches (Miracle is running it too). 100% of Mage and Warlock decks are running Kazakus. Priests are about 60% Kazakus, 40% dragon and most of the Kazakus decks are dragons anyway.
Seen one Hunter all month, zero Paladins and the odd Jade Idol druid.
I think this might just be the single least diverse meta in HS history. Every played class is using the same archetype.
I agree with your general ladder observations. The diversity is nill. I wonder what will happen to Kazakus when Reno and other strong 1-of cards are rotated out of Standard.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 11 2017 21:05 Rimstalker wrote:
I'm getting mocked for my f2p with weasel tunnelers it seems. Yesterday I got a golden one, today I got two from three packs, on top of the two I already had.
Definitely sink a bunch of your f2p resources into another golden weasel. That would be f2p baller status.
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I just had another priest literately AFK for three turns and still win. Why people think priest should have an early game is still beyond me
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All those pirate warriors who just bum rush you down before you can do anything can go suck a cock.
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To my most recent Tavern Brawl opponent, why did you concede so early? Not only was the game far from over, you did not let me play Mayor Noggenfogger which I kept in my opening hand
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I think I met another future Blizzcon winner, talent was just overwhelming.
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Well the pirate meta got extremely dull very quickly.
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"Jade Idol killed control"
Uh no, it just says to them to have a win condition other than fatigue. From my experience, Jade Idol Druid versus vontrol decks with non-fatigue win conditions (like Leeroy/faceless) is far from a walk in the park for the Druid
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Wow - its pretty much impossible to play any standard mid-range style deck these days. Its all asshole aggro Pirate decks OR the other extreme which is "dont make any plans for the next two hours" Reno decks. Make it stop. Why does everyone have to resort to this garbage? Can we just play the game and try to enjoy it? Ya know, trade minions, hit face sometimes, etc, shit like that? Nope - every game is fucking OVER with by turn 2 if its aggro Shaman or Warrior. I dont even bother with that disgusting shit. Instant concede.
Is this shit going to get addressed? Kiblers ideas about ranks being protected will help a LOT - then the Try-hards will actually use non-cancer decks once they are "safe" at level 5 or 10 or whatever. This is getting fucking stupid though. Im so tired of having Reno artifically reset the game or watching some fuckhead Pirate deck flood the board & buff a weapon by turn 2. Fuck off.
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Fuck you, Pirate Warrior players. Please go kill yourselves, preferably in front of loved ones. Fucking losers.
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Germany25657 Posts
There's a limit to the amount of whining we tolerate, cmon -.-
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On January 19 2017 07:00 KadaverBB wrote:
There's a limit to the amount of whining we tolerate, cmon -.-
Then stay out of the QQ thread. The game is severely broken right now with 3 dickkead decks ruining ladder. Worst meta ever. Worst deck diversity ever.
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Germany25657 Posts
Can't stay out of it if you're out of line 
Im in CHAAAAARGE here!
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your Country52797 Posts
On January 20 2017 04:49 KadaverBB wrote:Can't stay out of it if you're out of line Im in CHAAAAARGE now!
Fixed, you're welcome
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If you're still getting upset about this game, honestly do yourselves (above) a favour and uninstall. I should take my own advice, but I've really played this game so little only to duel a friend when either of us get that 80 gold quest. I'm starting to see it as a giant waste of time caring about missing gold currency or free packs only for the next adventure and expo to change nothing.
It's not even the meta that's dumb if you're upset about that, everything in this game after playing it for long periods of time has made it a chore rather than fun when the game was in closed and open beta. From the bad ladder system, to horrible casual mode, to arena still being stupidly imba, to bad balance and design of a lot of cards. Yea I don't know why any of you still torture yourselves, other than continuing to reinforce the sunk-cost fallacy this game causes
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Pirate Warrior Jade decks aggro shamans dragon priests o.O
So much shit just face rolls you when your just starting out or just have a little stuff crafted. Grinding the ladder for gold is pretty meh. Huge swings where I reach like rank 15 the huge down swings where I fall to 19. There are just some decks my poverty renomage can't deal with.
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