Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft TCG - Page 96

On October 23 2013 11:12 iky43210 wrote:
Not really free to play. the reward earn is so slow and detrimental to the game that many of my friends that got into beta have quit.

They are the same friends that would spend hundreds on league of legend skins (over course of years) but none on hearthstone because they don't want to feel "invested" in a game such early on.

There's also zero social interface in game. When I play in arena or construct I wouldn't be able to tell the difference if they are human or AI. Still haven't made a single friend in that game.

Honestly this will kill alot of the game's popularity and hype few weeks or months after released. That's just how I feel about it

On October 23 2013 12:37 HardlyNever wrote:
I hope Blizzard realizes how completely broken northshire cleric is right now. That + power word shield is arguable as broken as the old coin + defias. A 1/3 with a card draw mechanic for 1 mana is obviously ludicrous. Please fix blizz.

On October 23 2013 12:19 Kyhron wrote:
This is why its still a Closed Beta. People see the game play being mostly complete. Imbalanced but definitely complete and they see that as ready for the masses, but no chat among other things missing is keeping it where it is. I think gold generation is still way too low. It takes 45 wins to make enough gold for an arena run which ends up being somewhere between 70-90 games assuming you have a win rate around 50%. I get that Blizzard wants Arena entries/Card packs to be a reward, but there is a difference between a reward and a chore and if someone wants to grind out some games on a weekend or day off they maybe only get 1 maybe 2 packs if they are lucky for an entire day of playing. That being said something like 10g per 3 games instead of wins would probably be the best thing to do. It rewards people for playing and still limits gold. It lets people experiment with decks and not feel punished by not getting anything for losing a bunch while you tinker with a deck and it'll hopefully kill some of the enthusiasm for cookie cutter rush decks a bit.

On October 23 2013 11:33 Zooper31 wrote:
1 huge thing that bugs me. I can't add friends by simply playing against them. You know that back and forth duel I just had with that priest where we were within 5hp of each other the entire game and I won with only 1hp left? I can't add him at all because theres no chat and I can't get his friend code through any interface or replay.

That would've been a guy I would've loved to chat with after the game about how epic it was but nope, no social interface at all.

On October 23 2013 12:49 SpecialistSc wrote:


i find it really funny how you think complaining here can get anywhere... lol

On October 23 2013 13:13 HardlyNever wrote:


I don't think blizzard will actually read it. It is mainly for "discussion." I guess it could go in the qq thread, but I think I already saw qq about this.

On October 23 2013 13:23 Kyhron wrote:

Here I'll provide some discussion The problem with NSC + PW:S is that NSC can just constantly be run into things like Novice Engineer than healed up from the damage. Other problem is that its when ANY minion is healed. If they limited it from when a minion is healed to when a friendly minion is healed it would limit a lot of the drawing power priests currently have and force them to play less passively.

On October 23 2013 14:06 dae wrote:


If they make it only when a friendly minion is healed, it will do almost nothing except in priest mirrors...

The problem is that you need something that can kill it in one hit, or else they will just heal and draw from it.

On October 23 2013 14:20 Kyhron wrote:

I disagree. I've had several games where the priest has bounced things off of like the taunt gorilla with 1-4 stats (totally blanking on name at the moment and too lazy to look up the name) or even the shieldmasta then healed it up just to get the card draws he needed. Rare cases but it still happens enough.

I do agree that the real problem is in the design of the card. I get that the Priest needs some way to draw cards but it doesn't feel right especially when they have ways of getting things to absolutely huge health numbers where their opponent has almost no way to kill it even with multiple turns meanwhile he's drawing free cards

On October 23 2013 14:58 HardlyNever wrote:
I think you guys might be missing the point. The real problem (at least in arena, it is still a problem in constructed, maybe not as much) is that priest + power word shield (in almost any combination, turn 1 + coin, turn 1 then turn 2, w/e) is basically an unanswerable play. The only true answer to it is iron beak owl, and you are still -1 card after they kill it with their 1/3. There is no real combination of 2 drop plus 3 drop that can consistently deal with this simple 2 mana combination. Ironically, only the priest has a decent alternative (shadow word: pain).

From there the priest can simply play the warlock ability, only not cost life, and deal damage with his 1/5. Sure, he sacrifices a little bit of early board control, but the ridiculous card advantage that they gain in the mid-long game (where the priest wants to be) is simply broken.

There basically is no acceptable counter-play beyond ironbeak owl or SW: pain. If you are trying to play any form of control, this two mana combo screws it over, and you must try to aggro down the priest before the guaranteed card advantage kicks in.

On October 23 2013 15:13 Kyhron wrote:

No I think we got your point. And I disagree that only priest has a way to deal with it. Druid can deal with it with a claw+Wrath for 3 mana and 2 cards just like the priest spent to set up the combo or they can Mark of Nature+any creature with at least base 1 attack. Hunters can Kill Command with any beast on their Board for 4 mana minimum depending on the beasts mana cost. I could keep going, but I know that isn't the point.

Yes its a strong combination, but at the same time without it Priests have almost no drawing power outside of battlecry creatures. Even if you spend a bit more mana to deal with the NSC+PW:S combo at the beginning you can severely limit the priest entirely. Arena definitely is a bit rougher with a lower chance at getting the removal you need, but even if I spend a bit more mana than they did at the beginning to get rid of NSC I still think its worth it.

On October 24 2013 10:21 MaRCsoN wrote:



Im sorry, but you're just plain wrong. There is simply no card or mana efficient answer for the Cleric combo right now. Claw+Wrath is an absolutely horrible example of a counter to cleric, as is Kill command. Both of those "counters" have a much more powerful value if used in different scenarios. If you have spend a bit more mana or draw to remove it, you're going to have less available mana and/or cards going into midgame. Thats what makes the Cleric combo so strong right now...........Furthermore, no classes apart from Warlock have reliable card draws apart from battlecrys and other cards so cut it out...Ive seen people posting that lame argument on every forum. I wouldn't go so far as to say that Priest needs a nerf right now, Id much rather that we, the community be allowed to shift the metagame for a while yet.