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On August 06 2009 12:46 NukezaFlyin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 10:42 Dametri wrote:On August 06 2009 10:37 kramer76 wrote:
I doubt it is merely politics. It is still just a niche use. I think it's a great idea for disaster areas where you probably have freshwater sources... its just dirty no? I think it's a great solution for conflict areas of the world. Even then, how much would it cost to produce and ship to every one who might be able to use it? How much would it cost to produce these filters and keep them stocked for everyone? If it's a disaster area or a conflict area, how do you get these to the people who need them?
Though its pretty cool that it can filter your pee a couple times over. He's pretty specific about the cost of getting the filters to "everyone," though perhaps not so clear on a timetable. As far as using the filter to relieve disaster areas, it would probably be just as easy or easier to fly in water, seeing as how the main problem is gathering and transporting resources to the affected area and the solutions only need to last for a relatively short period of time. Might be nice as a prophylactic in areas frequently visited by disaster, though. Water's really heavy. It's really expensive to ship in that much water. Seems like it'll be cheaper to ship in a bunch of really light plastic bottles than it is to ship in several times more plastic bottles with water in it.
Unless those light plastic bottles cost $100 each
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2 drops of iodine into flask... gg safe water... tastes like shit but its safe... this is how the hardcore secret navy seal bad ass people do it 
12 drops per gallon.
doesn't this seem a lot more cost efficient... how much is a bottle of iodine?
edit-- and boiling water does not sterilize it... definitely helps but there are strains of bacteria that are resistant to boiling
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On August 06 2009 15:00 Sir.Kimmel wrote:
definitely helps but there are strains of bacteria that are resistant to boiling
as far as i know, that kind of bacteria (extremophiles) are only present in extreme environments, and i dont expect a water source to be one of those.
like somebody said earlier, elements that aren't destroyed by heat are dangerous too.
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On August 06 2009 10:30 FragKrag wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 10:27 eMbrace wrote:
im a noob when it comes to survival, but doesn't boiling water cleanse it? boiling it kills the bacteria but it doesn't get rid of elements and pollutants like arsenic or mercury which tend to be in water lol
Not to mention some of those places don't really have the resources to create a fire. The big deal with teh Sudan conflict is that people were pushed into these refugee camps where they have to dangerously stray into enemy territory to get firewood.
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On August 06 2009 10:34 FragKrag wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 10:32 eMbrace wrote:
@Klockan3 -- you don't need electricity to boil water 0_o
@FragKrag -- is chemically poisoned water a problem in 3rd world countries? or is it mainly bacteria and things that boiling water would actually kill?
well in places like India and china probably, but in Africa it probably isn't as bad as the malaria and parasites though boiling the water and condensing the vapor back into a liquid works too
Africa doesn't have the infrastructure to support pollutants just yet....Wait till they get to that stage, water will be a MAJOR issue. One of the largest continents in the world becoming a developing country with cheap labour and a massive burst of industry will absolutely destroy the air quality and the water quality in the area.
On August 06 2009 11:26 The Storyteller wrote:Not really news. Singapore has been doing this for years on a large scale. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEWaterWe recycle sewage into drinkable water. The country is like a massive Fremen stillsuit. We also donate potable water purifiers to third world countries. For places where there is no water source at all, one of our companies has a machine called the Dragonfly which condenses water from the air ala Dune.
I was going to link NEWater, but I see you're already ahead of me. And Dragonfly has been around for years, I watched the news that night  , have you ever seen one though? I haven't.
I'm not sure about the Fremen stillsuit reference, anyone care to enlighten me?
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lol at the retarded comments among this thread.
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On August 06 2009 15:53 sArite_nite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 11:26 The Storyteller wrote:Not really news. Singapore has been doing this for years on a large scale. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEWaterWe recycle sewage into drinkable water. The country is like a massive Fremen stillsuit. We also donate potable water purifiers to third world countries. For places where there is no water source at all, one of our companies has a machine called the Dragonfly which condenses water from the air ala Dune. I was going to link NEWater, but I see you're already ahead of me. And Dragonfly has been around for years, I watched the news that night , have you ever seen one though? I haven't. I'm not sure about the Fremen stillsuit reference, anyone care to enlighten me?
I meant "portable", as in you can move the purifier around =)
Fremen stillsuit, as in the stuff they wear in Dune. Recycles sweat, shit and piss into drinkable water =)
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On August 06 2009 10:27 eMbrace wrote:
im a noob when it comes to survival, but doesn't boiling water cleanse it?
well it'll still be dirty and who says you'll have fire
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theres all ready water purifiers around, i fail to see how this is amazing
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Fascinating but seems fishy.
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