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Big vs Small Gov't [Derailed SurGen thread]

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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 22:34:16
July 13 2009 22:17 GMT
#1
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So Obama's selected Dr. Regina Benjamin to be America's Doctor. She's done admirable work for the poor, and her efforts post-Katrina are commendable, but the S.G. is as much a figurehead as an actual health policy pusher.

And honestly? An overweight person is to dictate to a morbidly obese nation on how to take care of itself?

Hope and change grows curiouser and curiouser.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124749440449132729.html
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Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
July 13 2009 22:23 GMT
#2
this is the change that was voted for. better than the evil white man. I think that it is an interesting change to let other people handle business in the government. At the same time- obama is a chain smoker and you don't hear anything about that on the news and he is the figurehead of america lol. so really just because she is overweight i really don't think that it is a big deal.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 13 2009 22:24 GMT
#3
i think the idea of a surgeon general is stupid.

politics is like mercury. It's lethal by itself, and mixing it with other things doesn't make it more palatable.
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Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
July 13 2009 22:25 GMT
#4
He picked her because she is Pro-Obamacare. While she has done fine work, she obviously hasn't spent much time in Canada or Britain. (But that is for another topic)



"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
July 13 2009 22:26 GMT
#5
wait so- government funded heath care is bad thing?

why?
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Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
July 13 2009 22:27 GMT
#6
I loled at the picture for some reason...
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Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
July 13 2009 22:27 GMT
#7
On July 14 2009 07:24 Caller wrote:
i think the idea of a surgeon general is stupid.

politics is like mercury. It's lethal by itself, and mixing it with other things doesn't make it more palatable.


Ha! Funny and so true, and yet people are so gullible time after time they seem to think Government is this omniscient force that cures all ills, when in fact its the direct cause of those ills.

How people expect the Government to provide satisfactory healthcare, but yet they can't even manage one financial institution, mail service, or their own budget. Silly times we are living in.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
July 13 2009 22:28 GMT
#8
On July 14 2009 07:17 Last Romantic wrote:
Hope and change grows curiouser and curiouser.

I agree.
Super serious.
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
July 13 2009 22:28 GMT
#9
On July 14 2009 07:26 Misrah wrote:
wait so- government funded heath care is bad thing?

why?


Very. Anyways, this isn't the topic for such a discussion.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Pawsom
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States928 Posts
July 13 2009 22:32 GMT
#10
Why didnt you include her name or a link to an article with her name in the OP?
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 13 2009 22:33 GMT
#11
Oh sorry will do.
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Pawsom
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States928 Posts
July 13 2009 22:37 GMT
#12
Thanks haha now to go read about her a little.
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
July 13 2009 22:37 GMT
#13
On July 14 2009 07:28 Aegraen wrote:
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On July 14 2009 07:26 Misrah wrote:
wait so- government funded heath care is bad thing?

why?


Very. Anyways, this isn't the topic for such a discussion.


but why? is it the fact that the governemnt can do nothing right? or that it will cost us more? or the fact that medical visits will take longer, and now performing obscure or expernsive proceadures will not happen? or that the hospitals will simply try and treat, not prevent?

basically im just agreeing with you- i have never seen some one on TL that actually things that everything obama does is godlike lol

/end of thread derailment
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broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
July 13 2009 22:39 GMT
#14
On July 14 2009 07:17 Last Romantic wrote:

And honestly? An overweight person is to dictate to a morbidly obese nation on how to take care of itself?


I searched Google images after reading this comment. She's a little chub, but not that overweight.

The problem with the obesity issue isn't necessarily about weight, but it's about perception that people have against fat people. I don't see why we need a skinny person to carry this message.

Obviously, I don't know her position is on obesity, but imo an overweight person can deliver the message that being overweight isn't a bad thing, but very unhealthy if a person becomes obese.

There's going to be a long line that's going to make fun of her when she addresses the obesity issue, but if she can overcome this she'll be a great surgeon general. No small task of course.
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
July 13 2009 22:43 GMT
#15
On July 14 2009 07:39 broz0rs wrote:
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On July 14 2009 07:17 Last Romantic wrote:

And honestly? An overweight person is to dictate to a morbidly obese nation on how to take care of itself?


I searched Google images after reading this comment. She's a little chub, but not that overweight.

The problem with the obesity issue isn't necessarily about weight, but it's about perception that people have against fat people. I don't see why we need a skinny person to carry this message.

Obviously, I don't know her position is on obesity, but imo an overweight person can deliver the message that being overweight isn't a bad thing, but very unhealthy if a person becomes obese.

There's going to be a long line that's going to make fun of her when she addresses the obesity issue, but if she can overcome this she'll be a great surgeon general. No small task of course.


And exactly how much does a Surgeon General actually contribute? What makes a great one, and a bad one?

One bureaucrat is like any other, a pox on us all.

Is anyone else tired of all the 'czars' and bureaucrats that are unelected that soak up our money and show nothing but waste? Can we unite and get rid of the IRS, EPA, Department of ______ Fill in the Blank, etc.

A wise and frugal government is a good government. Oh, where have I heard that one before..
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Grommit
Profile Joined February 2009
United States162 Posts
July 13 2009 22:45 GMT
#16
At least he didn't pick Sanjay Gupta
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
July 13 2009 22:45 GMT
#17
hmm if we could rid ourselves of all government run programs life would be so much better. it has been shown time and time again that private enterprise can run things better than the government. Why does america want a social health care program so badly? there is simply no merit to it.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
July 13 2009 22:47 GMT
#18
On July 14 2009 07:43 Aegraen wrote:
Is anyone else tired of all the 'czars' and bureaucrats that are unelected that soak up our money and show nothing but waste? Can we unite and get rid of the IRS, EPA, Department of ______ Fill in the Blank, etc.
lol. let's get rid of the department of defence. and kill the irc cuz forget taxes, the government doesn't need citizens' moneys to fund the nation. they can just keep printing new ones.
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zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
July 13 2009 22:47 GMT
#19
Obama will continue to pick blacks, women, and any other minorities and put them in important jobs during his administration. I'm really surprised he hasn't pick a gay environment advisor or something like that yet.

Not sure if it's really good or bad, but that's the "change".

In the end it all comes down to the fact that politicians can do much less for a country than most people think. Maybe I'm getting "self-important" here because I work in an financial investment fund, but I could go as far as saying the CEO of a really big fund like Blackstone or Goldman Sachs can make decisions that have far greater direct impact on the situation of a country than a president.

Presidents have a strict guideline to follow - finance CEO's can and WILL go apeshit when they decide they have a good idea to make money. (Hi there international financial crisis!)


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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 13 2009 22:49 GMT
#20
Defense is necessary. The remainder of publicly funded programmes are largely contestable.
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