Here's an interesting poll. What level of education have you completed, and what are you doing right now?
Understandably there are some ambiguities amoungst different countries on how certain degrees are referred to, so I added some descriptions to hopefully make things more clear (on a different token, I feel really sorry for people at Harvard receiving a degree in S.M., lol, it might have been a good name in the past but it sounds so bad nowadays).
Poll: What is the highest level of education you have COMPLETED? (Vote): Elementary School (Grade 1 to Grade 5 or 6) (Vote): Middle School / Junior High (Grade 5 or 6 to Grade 9 or 10) (Vote): High School / Secondary School (Grade 9 or 10 to 12) (Vote): College / University (post-secondary education leading to, e.g. , B.Sc.,B.A.,B.B.A., B.Eng., etc.) (Vote): Master's Degree (graduate degree, eg M.Sc., M.A., M.B.A, M.Eng., etc.) (Vote): Doctorate (graduate degree, eg Ph.D., M.D., LL.D, etc.)
Poll: What level of education are you completing right now (or starting to complete in September)? (Vote): Elementary School (Grade 1 to Grade 5 or 6) (Vote): Middle School / Junior High (Grade 5 or 6 to Grade 9 or 10) (Vote): High School / Secondary School (Grade 9 or 10 to 12) (Vote): College / University (post-secondary education leading to, e.g. , B.Sc.,B.A.,B.B.A., B.Eng., etc.) (Vote): Master's Degree (graduate degree, eg M.Sc., M.A., M.B.A, M.Eng., etc.) (Vote): Doctorate (graduate degree, eg Ph.D., M.D., LL.D, etc.) (Vote): I am not in school and I feel sorry for you nerds :D
Sadly, I'm a high school drop out, with my GED. I completed 10th grade, and dropped out near the beginning of my junior year. Not really important, but I had a 3.8ish GPA, and was starting to take AP classes. Dropped out for medical reasons, and then once everything was taken care of, it was too late to go back in the year. Things just kind of went by, and I was out of school for awhile.
Once the year had past, I just figured I'd get my GED, then maybe enter community college (and then transfer to a better school) a year early. That didn't happen, and I'm still not in school. Hopefully enter this fall, after about 2 years of being out of school entirely. :X
On June 30 2009 03:31 So no fek wrote: Sadly, I'm a high school drop out, with my GED. I completed 10th grade, and dropped out near the beginning of my junior year. Not really important, but I had a 3.8ish GPA, and was starting to take AP classes. Dropped out for medical reasons, and then once everything was taken care of, it was too late to go back in the year. Things just kind of went by, and I was out of school for awhile.
Once the year had past, I just figured I'd get my GED, then maybe enter community college (and then transfer to a better school) a year early. That didn't happen, and I'm still not in school. Hopefully enter this fall, after about 2 years of being out of school entirely. :X
In Canada, as far as I know, there are certain adult colleges that gives highschool level diploma. So there should be ways to complete your gap in your country as well.
On June 30 2009 03:31 So no fek wrote: Sadly, I'm a high school drop out, with my GED. I completed 10th grade, and dropped out near the beginning of my junior year. Not really important, but I had a 3.8ish GPA, and was starting to take AP classes. Dropped out for medical reasons, and then once everything was taken care of, it was too late to go back in the year. Things just kind of went by, and I was out of school for awhile.
Once the year had past, I just figured I'd get my GED, then maybe enter community college (and then transfer to a better school) a year early. That didn't happen, and I'm still not in school. Hopefully enter this fall, after about 2 years of being out of school entirely. :X
In Canada, as far as I know, there are certain adult colleges that gives highschool level diploma. So there should be ways to complete your gap in your country as well.
I have my GED, which as far as I've been told, that's close enough to it. I can actually enter my state university with a GED, if I take SATs and all. I just figured that since I've been out of school for so long, and don't know how big a leap college level courses will be when I'm lacking some high school education, that the wiser move might be to take some community college courses to get a bit of a feel, and then transfer over after a semester or two.
On June 30 2009 03:31 So no fek wrote: Sadly, I'm a high school drop out, with my GED. I completed 10th grade, and dropped out near the beginning of my junior year. Not really important, but I had a 3.8ish GPA, and was starting to take AP classes. Dropped out for medical reasons, and then once everything was taken care of, it was too late to go back in the year. Things just kind of went by, and I was out of school for awhile.
Once the year had past, I just figured I'd get my GED, then maybe enter community college (and then transfer to a better school) a year early. That didn't happen, and I'm still not in school. Hopefully enter this fall, after about 2 years of being out of school entirely. :X
In Canada, as far as I know, there are certain adult colleges that gives highschool level diploma. So there should be ways to complete your gap in your country as well.
I have my GED, which as far as I've been told, that's close enough to it. I can actually enter my state university with a GED, if I take SATs and all. I just figured that since I've been out of school for so long, and don't know how big a leap college level courses will be when I'm lacking some high school education, that the wiser move might be to take some community college courses to get a bit of a feel, and then transfer over after a semester or two.
With SAT and everything I am sure the States is different, but in Canada, there are tons of idiots in 1st year university.
On June 30 2009 03:31 So no fek wrote: Sadly, I'm a high school drop out, with my GED. I completed 10th grade, and dropped out near the beginning of my junior year. Not really important, but I had a 3.8ish GPA, and was starting to take AP classes. Dropped out for medical reasons, and then once everything was taken care of, it was too late to go back in the year. Things just kind of went by, and I was out of school for awhile.
Once the year had past, I just figured I'd get my GED, then maybe enter community college (and then transfer to a better school) a year early. That didn't happen, and I'm still not in school. Hopefully enter this fall, after about 2 years of being out of school entirely. :X
In Canada, as far as I know, there are certain adult colleges that gives highschool level diploma. So there should be ways to complete your gap in your country as well.
I have my GED, which as far as I've been told, that's close enough to it. I can actually enter my state university with a GED, if I take SATs and all. I just figured that since I've been out of school for so long, and don't know how big a leap college level courses will be when I'm lacking some high school education, that the wiser move might be to take some community college courses to get a bit of a feel, and then transfer over after a semester or two.
I think that's a good idea, and cheaper. I take classes at the Community College over the summer. Also it's much cheaper.
For difficult things like math and language, you'll usually take a placement test, so you won't be in way over your head.
On June 30 2009 04:40 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: You put L.L.D but not J.D. !?!
Well they belong the same category.... I only put on some examples; in essense I meant that doctors of law also belong that category.
Doctor of laws is a higher ranking degree than the Juris Doctor. Juris Doctor is typically thought to be masters level.
According the American Bar Association, those who have received a J.D. may refer to themselves as "doctor" although I don't know any lawyers that do this. Likewise, to be a law professor all one needs is a J.D. and in an academic setting these individuals are referred to as Professor. A J.D. is usually 3 year program which is longer than most masters programs but shorter then a Ph.D. which is usually 4 years or longer. So I think putting J.D. in the doctorate level is fine.
I have a Ph.D. I voted for the last option in the 2nd poll, although I disagree with the "I feel sorry for you nerds". Not all students realize how awesome it is to still be a student.
Finishing up bachelors, will be starting a mini-masters very soon. My school has an MBA program that is only 30 credits on top of your bachelors instead of 60.
On July 01 2009 03:22 Catyoul wrote: I have a Ph.D. I voted for the last option in the 2nd poll, although I disagree with the "I feel sorry for you nerds". Not all students realize how awesome it is to still be a student.
That line was added purely for comedic effects for those outside of school and dislikes school. In fact I strongly disagree with that line myself.
On June 30 2009 04:40 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: You put L.L.D but not J.D. !?!
Well they belong the same category.... I only put on some examples; in essense I meant that doctors of law also belong that category.
Doctor of laws is a higher ranking degree than the Juris Doctor. Juris Doctor is typically thought to be masters level.
Do people in Canada actually get LL.D and S.J.D. degrees? I don't know a single person in the US with one, and only a tiny number of law schools even offer them. You have to be pretty crazy to get a 4 year BA/BS, 3 year J.D., 1 year LL.M, then spend 3-5 years on an S.J.D. You'd be 30 years old by the time you graduated, and you'd probably have half a million dollars in student loan debt.
On June 30 2009 04:40 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: You put L.L.D but not J.D. !?!
Well they belong the same category.... I only put on some examples; in essense I meant that doctors of law also belong that category.
Doctor of laws is a higher ranking degree than the Juris Doctor. Juris Doctor is typically thought to be masters level.
Do people in Canada actually get LL.D and S.J.D. degrees? I don't know a single person in the US with one, and only a tiny number of law schools even offer them. You have to be pretty crazy to get a 4 year BA/BS, 3 year J.D., 1 year LL.M, then spend 3-5 years on an S.J.D. You'd be 30 years old by the time you graduated, and you'd probably have half a million dollars in student loan debt.
Unfortunately I am not familiar with J.D. degrees, or any kind of law degrees in general. Every lawyer I meet, however, have LLD.
On July 01 2009 09:13 travis wrote: you should have an option for "some college"
Originally I wanted to separate colleges and universities. The reason is that at least in Canada, colleges are usually professional schools that teaches you lame things including being a chef or a nurse, where as universities teaches things that are academic (math, science, philosophy, engineering, etc.). However it seems to me that for other English-speaking countries colleges and universities mean things that are rather similar, so to avoid possible ambiguities I just merged them into one option.
On June 30 2009 06:55 VIB wrote: College drop outs counts as "finishing right now?" I have no intention of going back :S
=( why not?
Had no perspective of getting a good job with electronic engineering at where I live. Watched most of my friends get a college degree and stay unemployed for months. Figured I would make more money and be more productive studying computer graphics by myself while taking care of the family business instead. So far, being working pretty well.
On June 30 2009 03:31 So no fek wrote: Sadly, I'm a high school drop out, with my GED. I completed 10th grade, and dropped out near the beginning of my junior year. Not really important, but I had a 3.8ish GPA, and was starting to take AP classes. Dropped out for medical reasons, and then once everything was taken care of, it was too late to go back in the year. Things just kind of went by, and I was out of school for awhile.
Once the year had past, I just figured I'd get my GED, then maybe enter community college (and then transfer to a better school) a year early. That didn't happen, and I'm still not in school. Hopefully enter this fall, after about 2 years of being out of school entirely. :X
Caltech B.S. Math, currently 4th year Ph.D student in math at Harvard (R. Taylor. Local Langlands, Modularity. But working on Rapoport-Zink cohomology of shimura varieties nowadays)
Msg if you're a math nerd like me, live nearby, and want to play some games. I'm C/C+ iccup.
Finished high school, in second year of MB ChB now (B Med., 6 years in total) Although working as a junior doctor later will suck, being a med school student is pure awesomeness for now. Damnit picked wrong option in poll ><
On July 02 2009 12:42 CharlieMurphy wrote: There should be an additional poll of :" what is your age?" so we can compare them.
also, I have completed HS and taken some college classes but never finished either in the traditional way.
A good suggestion and I considered it; but the OP already have two polls and many choices for each, so I did not want to make it even more complicated.
On July 02 2009 19:04 skyglow1 wrote: Finished high school, in second year of MB ChB now (B Med., 6 years in total) Although working as a junior doctor later will suck, being a med school student is pure awesomeness for now. Damnit picked wrong option in poll ><
I just handed in my bachelor's assignment, so now I have a bachelor's degree in molecular biology :-). Will start on my master's degree after summer break
On July 01 2009 13:28 lilsusie wrote: Dropped out with 1 semester left of my masters. Considering going back but... it's been awhile.
susie what do you major in? O_o
English and Psychology - undergrad was working on School Counseling as grad
Why would you drop out with only 1 semester left? Just finish it off, so you get something for the work. I'm in the last month and a half of my MSc and I'm barely doing any work, but I'm trying to do just enough to graduate without pissing off my advisor too bad.
This fall I will start attending my first year of art school in Emily Carr, kinda noobish school but the best you can do in Canada (that has a reasonable price). Hopefully i can find a pile of money somewhere and go to Europe or something.
edit: what the hell! I've been the first post in the new page so often lately.
On July 01 2009 13:28 lilsusie wrote: Dropped out with 1 semester left of my masters. Considering going back but... it's been awhile.
susie what do you major in? O_o
English and Psychology - undergrad was working on School Counseling as grad
Why would you drop out with only 1 semester left? Just finish it off, so you get something for the work. I'm in the last month and a half of my MSc and I'm barely doing any work, but I'm trying to do just enough to graduate without pissing off my advisor too bad.
there's a LOT behind that story - and good reasons for me to leave. i am never ever ever ever ever going back to that school, nor that major anymore. I'll eventually get a masters in something, but it wont be for that.
On July 03 2009 10:23 ShaperofDreams wrote: This fall I will start attending my first year of art school in Emily Carr, kinda noobish school but the best you can do in Canada (that has a reasonable price). Hopefully i can find a pile of money somewhere and go to Europe or something.
edit: what the hell! I've been the first post in the new page so often lately.
I think a better poll could be "What do you plan to complete" since most people here are around 15-25 most are still in progress, so your poll is more of a poll on AGES than anything else
On July 04 2009 08:07 Lebesgue wrote: Completed: B.Sc Econ Currently: Ph.D Econ
Still long time ahead of me at univeristy which has both good and bad sides.
I bet a Ph.D in Economics is a lot of math and soul-burning.
It is both indeed. Mathematics is the main tool used in Economics... Well, economics is pretty much applied math these days. And one needs to have high level of devotion to economics in order to survive. It is really common to see professor on Friday night or Sunday doing their research at the university... Obviously same applies to students...
On July 04 2009 08:07 Lebesgue wrote: Completed: B.Sc Econ Currently: Ph.D Econ
Still long time ahead of me at univeristy which has both good and bad sides.
I bet a Ph.D in Economics is a lot of math and soul-burning.
It is both indeed. Mathematics is the main tool used in Economics... Well, economics is pretty much applied math these days. And one needs to have high level of devotion to economics in order to survive. It is really common to see professor on Friday night or Sunday doing their research at the university... Obviously same applies to students...
Which is funny. When I saw your nick I thought you were an analyst xD
On July 04 2009 08:49 evanthebouncy! wrote: I think a better poll could be "What do you plan to complete" since most people here are around 15-25 most are still in progress, so your poll is more of a poll on AGES than anything else
Yea good point... maybe next time =)
edit: however, a self-report of academic interests may result in 99% of people choosing medicine or law.
On July 04 2009 08:07 Lebesgue wrote: Completed: B.Sc Econ Currently: Ph.D Econ
Still long time ahead of me at univeristy which has both good and bad sides.
I bet a Ph.D in Economics is a lot of math and soul-burning.
It is both indeed. Mathematics is the main tool used in Economics... Well, economics is pretty much applied math these days. And one needs to have high level of devotion to economics in order to survive. It is really common to see professor on Friday night or Sunday doing their research at the university... Obviously same applies to students...
Which is funny. When I saw your nick I thought you were an analyst xD
Done my Bachelors in Mass Media (Journalism), was doing my Masters in English Literature but I think I will complete it later this year, didn't give my exams in May.
On July 04 2009 08:07 Lebesgue wrote: Completed: B.Sc Econ Currently: Ph.D Econ
Still long time ahead of me at univeristy which has both good and bad sides.
What university are you in? I'm currently finishing my BS in economics and trying to decide whether i want to commit to grad school or not.
I'm at NYU.
Well, it is not worth to do Master degree in economics, that's for sure. IT is waste of time unless one doesn't hold a degree in economics already. To do Ph.D in economics one needs quite a bit of math. Calculus I-III, Linear Algebra is a must. Real Analysis is really ueful as well. The rest you can pick up later depending what will you want to do.
And don't forget, Ph.D in econ is really hard work, and little fun. Especially at the beginning. First year can be incredibly tough as the volume of coursework is huge. I was in the library almost everyday for 12hours... Including weekends. Tough sometimes we went out with my coursemates we didn't really have much time to enjoy nightlife in New York...
Dropped out of HS just shy of 2 classes (stupid family bullshit I don't want to get into), employers never need to see a physical completion certificate my "word" is just as good (I don't have to worry about college because I just don't have the $ and probably never will).
On July 04 2009 08:07 Lebesgue wrote: Completed: B.Sc Econ Currently: Ph.D Econ
Still long time ahead of me at univeristy which has both good and bad sides.
I bet a Ph.D in Economics is a lot of math and soul-burning.
It is both indeed. Mathematics is the main tool used in Economics... Well, economics is pretty much applied math these days. And one needs to have high level of devotion to economics in order to survive. It is really common to see professor on Friday night or Sunday doing their research at the university... Obviously same applies to students...
Which is funny. When I saw your nick I thought you were an analyst xD
Well, I am working with measure theory so much that the nickname seemed natural to me. And I did quite a bit of analysis in my life As one of the noble laureate said : "Economic theory is mathematical analysis. The rest is just pictures and talk"