long story short: neo-nazi goes to holocaust museum with a rifle, shoots a guard, gets shot himself, and escapes.
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An 88-year-old Maryland man with a long history of ties to white supremacist groups is the suspect in Wednesday's shooting at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, two law enforcement officials told CNN.
James von Brunn served six years in prison for trying to make what he called a "legal, non-violent citizens arrest" of Federal Reserve board members in 1981 -- a sentence he blamed on "a Negro jury, Jew/Negro attorneys" and "a Jew judge," he said on his Web site, "Holy Western Empire."
"He is in our files going back way into the 1980s," said Heidi Beirich, a researcher for the Montgomery, Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center. "He has an extremely long history with neo-Nazis and white supremacists. He's written extremely incendiary publications raging about Jews, blacks and the like."
Von Brunn is a native of St. Louis, Missouri, and a 1943 graduate of Washington University there. According to his online biography, he served as a Navy officer in World War II and became an advertising artist and executive after the war.
But by the late 1970s, Beirich told CNN, he had become a "hardcore neo-Nazi" and an associate of William Pierce -- the white supremacist leader whose 1978 book, "The Turner Diaries," is blamed for inspiring Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh. Watch more about von Brunn's history with neo-Nazis »
In December 1981, angered by what he called the "treacherous and unconstitutional" acts of the Federal Reserve, von Brunn entered the central bank's Washington headquarters armed with a pistol, a shotgun, a knife, and a mock bomb, according to court records. He claimed to be a photographer who wanted to shoot pictures of the boardroom, and bolted up the stairs when security guards told him to wait.
While being subdued, he claimed to have planted a bomb, forcing the building's evacuation, court records state. He told officers he was upset over high interest rates -- then well into double digits -- and the state of the economy, which was in a recession.
Von Brunn, then 62, was sentenced to six years in prison on attempted kidnapping, second-degree burglary, assault and weapons charges. In a December 1984 appeal, his attorney, John Hogrogian, asked the court to release the defendant on bail, saying his client had "renounced his actions of December 7, 1981, and expressed remorse in a letter addressed to this court."
Von Brunn has "a young son and aches to see him again," his lawyer wrote.
Von Brunn's trial dealt extensively with his "attitudes about black and Jewish people," which his lawyer said were irrelevant to the charges he was facing.
Documents were read at trial in which von Brunn wrote, "Goal: to deport all Jews and blacks from the white nations," among other racist statements.
In his testimony he also said "the basic plan was to wind up where I am now," meaning in court to raise publicity for his campaign against the Federal Reserve.
His appeal was denied.
Von Brunn's Web site proclaims itself "a new, hard-hitting expose of the Jew conspiracy to destroy the white gene-pool." Watch more about von Brunn's Web site »
Postings attributed to von Brunn have appeared on numerous other sites, including ones that call the Holocaust and "The Diary of Anne Frank" hoaxes and bemoan the decline of the "Aryan gene pool."
"Bit by bit Liberalism ascended. Bit by bit the Constitution was re-interpreted. Bit by bit government institutions and Congressmen fell into JEW hands --then U.S. diplomacy, businesses, resources and manpower came under JEW control," one such message reads. "Whitemen sat on their collective asses and did NOTHING -- NOTHING BUT TALK."
More recently, messages attributed to von Brunn question the authenticity of President Obama's birth certificate, the subject of numerous conspiracy theories. Advocates of those theories imply that Obama was born overseas and therefore would be constitutionally ineligible to hold office.
Von Brunn was in critical condition Wednesday afternoon after being shot by a security guard at the museum. Another guard, Stephen Tyrone Johns, was killed in the shooting, museum officials said Wednesday afternoon. Watch witness describe shooting »
Washington police and the FBI said the shooting appeared to have been the work of a single gunman and there was no prior indication of the attack.
Wow I can't believe people still believe in this bullshit. People that still believe that they are better then someone based on religion/race/any-other-discrimination-basis make me sick.
The geezer didn't escape - he's hospitalized in critical condition. The museum's usually fairly crowded as well as the general vicinity surrounding it. Never thought I'd see someone walk in there and pull out a rifle.
To be quite honest, he probably could have made a very, very interesting argument about the proportion of jewish supreme court members in canada and the united states compared with their percentage of the population.
"von Brunn entered the central bank's Washington headquartersarmed with a pistol, a shotgun, a knife, and a mock bomb... Von Brunn, then 62, was sentenced to six years in prison on attempted kidnapping, second-degree burglary, assault and weapons charges."
On June 11 2009 09:28 DeathByMonkeys wrote: Wow I can't believe people still believe in this bullshit. People that still believe that they are better then someone based on religion/race/any-other-discrimination-basis make me sick.
Hes 88 years old. He comes from a world you havn't experienced.
On June 11 2009 09:28 DeathByMonkeys wrote: Wow I can't believe people still believe in this bullshit. People that still believe that they are better then someone based on religion/race/any-other-discrimination-basis make me sick.
Hes 88 years old. He comes from a world you havn't experienced.
Kinda reminds me of Gran Torino, but instead of having an epiphany, he just shoots up a museum.
On June 11 2009 09:28 DeathByMonkeys wrote: Wow I can't believe people still believe in this bullshit. People that still believe that they are better then someone based on religion/race/any-other-discrimination-basis make me sick.
Hes 88 years old. He comes from a world you havn't experienced.
Kinda reminds me of Gran Torino, but instead of having an epiphany, he just shoots up a museum.
On June 11 2009 09:28 DeathByMonkeys wrote: Wow I can't believe people still believe in this bullshit. People that still believe that they are better then someone based on religion/race/any-other-discrimination-basis make me sick.
Hes 88 years old. He comes from a world you havn't experienced.
Kinda reminds me of Gran Torino, but instead of having an epiphany, he just shoots up a museum.
On June 11 2009 09:28 DeathByMonkeys wrote: Wow I can't believe people still believe in this bullshit. People that still believe that they are better then someone based on religion/race/any-other-discrimination-basis make me sick.
Hes 88 years old. He comes from a world you havn't experienced.
This excuse works for Kipling, not this fucker. In his time I'm fairly certain shooting people because you're angry about a Jewish conspiracy was equally unacceptable.
On June 11 2009 13:14 sith wrote: The guy who stopped him was pretty brave. R.I.P. man, you did good.
Yeah, he's being called a hero, I don't think the OP particularly mentions this.
Yeah.
Stephen Tyrone Johns, a six-year veteran of the museum's security staff, later "died heroically in the line of duty," said Sara Bloomfield, museum director. ....
"Never take your guard force and security people for granted," he said. "They did exactly what they were supposed to do to protect people in the museum."
Evidently as the man entered the museum and started firing the two security guards immediately returned fired, Johns was hit and later died at the hospital. Saved who knows how many people inside the museum had he been able to get past them.
ladies and gentlemen of team liquid when i posted this i was in the midst of studying for finals so i did not go into details. if i have offended you by not calling Stephen Johns a hero then i apologize.
On June 11 2009 13:14 sith wrote: The guy who stopped him was pretty brave. R.I.P. man, you did good.
Yeah, he's being called a hero, I don't think the OP particularly mentions this.
This. A real hero.
EDIT: @the person who said that that 88 year old is from a "different world" Think about this: There is an armed guard in a museum. Our world is so fucked up that assholes, after past mass murder of Jews, want to keep on killing Jews. And this is in Washington. I used to live in peaceful Sweden, and over there there are security checks, concrete slabs against bombs and police at synagogues. And the threat is real.
i read somewhere that in europe, anything nazi-related is a big no-no. can anyone besides inlagdsil verify?
and i remember an event way back. a Waffen SS guy was found and when they went to go arrest him, the guy came out of his house full uniform with an mp40 and went to hell full of holes.
On June 11 2009 16:40 theron[wdt] wrote: i read somewhere that in europe, anything nazi-related is a big no-no. can anyone besides inlagdsil verify?
and i remember an event way back. a Waffen SS guy was found and when they went to go arrest him, the guy came out of his house full uniform with an mp40 and went to hell full of holes.
Depends on what country, generally it's a no-no, but in some places people will be more outraged than others.
On June 11 2009 16:40 theron[wdt] wrote: i read somewhere that in europe, anything nazi-related is a big no-no. can anyone besides inlagdsil verify?
and i remember an event way back. a Waffen SS guy was found and when they went to go arrest him, the guy came out of his house full uniform with an mp40 and went to hell full of holes.
Depends on what country, generally it's a no-no, but in some places people will be more outraged than others.
In Italy you can find "Hitler beer" with his picture on the bottle. That would be illegal in most european countries though. Don't think it's a major selling brand :p
Glenn Beck is an idiot. Harry Binswanger is an idiot.
Binswanger said "Right wing is individualist. Believes in individual rights, freedom, dignity of each individual life." It made laugh so hard. It's sad to know that the security guard dead.
Well hey, at least, even at this age, the guy is willing to fight for what he believes for (although generally nowadays we see what he believes in as wrong)
On June 11 2009 11:06 Archerofaiur wrote: The thing thats amazing is that that museum has like really good security. Ive been a couple times and they have medal detectors bag check etc...
What types of medals are you trying to sneak into the holocaust museum?
can someone tell me why this is the biggest news story out there right now? i saw like 3 breaking news things pop up on news websites, as if it were some terror hostage situation.
theyeven informed the president of the united states and everything
Asshole's getting charged with murder. Obvious, but thought an update was helpful. With his record and the profile of the case he's going to die in bondage.
On June 11 2009 09:28 DeathByMonkeys wrote: Wow I can't believe people still believe in this bullshit. People that still believe that they are better then someone based on religion/race/any-other-discrimination-basis make me sick.
Hes 88 years old. He comes from a world you havn't experienced.
Kinda reminds me of Gran Torino, but instead of having an epiphany, he just shoots up a museum.
lol
But seriously, 88 year old man? That's something I don't hear everyday.
Funny thing is that my business told the class that there would be many more shootings due to the economy or whatever. I expected middle aged men, but I guess old men do the job too.