89 y/o accused of 29k counts accessory to murder - Page 24

On March 18 2012 05:33 Holy_AT wrote:


I must say that I think it was the right choice to bomb the towns and they did the right thing. The nazis, the regime the government their organisations and what not where all evil and guilty as hell and the ones who didn't do anything even at the start of this terror were guilty of letting it all happen.
The people who tried to stop this while putting their own life on the line were fucking heroes !
And I'd rather sacrifice everything to secure a future without these people in power because with them there is no future.

On March 18 2012 05:48 killa_robot wrote:


You'd sacrifice everything after the fact, because you can easily decide now who was right and who was wrong. Things weren't so simple back then. Propaganda was huge, and most nazis honestly thought they were doing the right thing.

Everyone trying to white knight here, and who are saying they would attempt to oppose the regime from within, are just trying to make themselves feel better. You have no idea what you'd do. You're saying you'd risk your life, and the lives of your family and possibly your friends, doing something that at the time, you wouldn't even know was the right thing to do? Totally believable.

On March 18 2012 05:48 killa_robot wrote:


You'd sacrifice everything after the fact, because you can easily decide now who was right and who was wrong. Things weren't so simple back then. Propaganda was huge, and most nazis honestly thought they were doing the right thing.

Everyone trying to white knight here, and who are saying they would attempt to oppose the regime from within, are just trying to make themselves feel better. You have no idea what you'd do. You're saying you'd risk your life, and the lives of your family and possibly your friends, doing something that at the time, you wouldn't even know was the right thing to do? Totally believable.

On March 18 2012 06:11 Muki wrote:


It was a democratically elected legitimate government that became massively popular because it addressed real issues, like it or not. Would you organize armed resistance against your current government if you believed for example NATO missions are wrong? Of course you wouldn't, then stop accusing the civilians of that era, and don't celebrate the death of Demjanjuk and others - nothing was ever proven.

On March 18 2012 05:33 Holy_AT wrote:


I must say that I think it was the right choice to bomb the towns and they did the right thing. The nazis, the regime the government their organisations and what not where all evil and guilty as hell and the ones who didn't do anything even at the start of this terror were guilty of letting it all happen.
The people who tried to stop this while putting their own life on the line were fucking heroes !
And I'd rather sacrifice everything to secure a future without these people in power because with them there is no future.

On March 18 2012 06:10 Excludos wrote:


Yes, the winning side gets to decide the truth. If the nazis had won, we could very well be sitting here going "Thanks god those evil jews was wiped out". (I'm not saying that btw. Don't hurt me =|
Also remember that the Nazis have been extremely evilised (is that a word?) after the war, while, like the poster above me said, most of them really just thought they where doing the right thing. Most of you have been just as influenced by american media about how evil the nazis was, as they where by their own media back then about the exact opposite. Not saying genocide should go unpunished. But a guard, 70 years later? comon.

People should really learn the difference between justice and revenge btw. This case, was not justice. If you celebrate his death for something he may or may not have done, its simply blind revenge.

On March 18 2012 05:33 Holy_AT wrote:
I must say that I think it was the right choice to bomb the towns and they did the right thing. The nazis, the regime the government their organisations and what not where all evil and guilty as hell and the ones who didn't do anything even at the start of this terror were guilty of letting it all happen.
The people who tried to stop this while putting their own life on the line were fucking heroes !
And I'd rather sacrifice everything to secure a future without these people in power because with them there is no future.

On March 18 2012 13:24 justsayinbro wrote:
put him on death row and let him die in prison is the best way imo. even then its waste of tax dollar really.

On March 18 2012 13:19 r.Evo wrote:


What I found actually pretty amusing so far is that the posters flame baiting with their "omg people like this deserve to burn in hell!!!11" were from austria (2x) and canada (1x). While I doubt this is representative for Canadians, I'm pretty sure it is for Germans/Austrians.

I believe that in our countries people are subject to very heavy social pressure and media influence when it comes to those topics. If I'd be a politician in Germany and would NOT do everything possible to tell everyone that a man like Demnjanjuk should not have much fun in his life/afterlife I'd instantly be labelled as a neo-nazi. The fact that two generations after this stuff has happened people aren't able to let things go speaks for itself. No one alive today below the age of 70 has ANY responsibility whatsoever as to what happened during the holocaust/WW2. No one. Germans (and to some extent Austrians) in general still believe they're guilty (no one gives a fuck about war crimes committed by the other sides in our history classes; - it's full of "your grand(grand)parents were evil and you have to burden their sins!") and that is what clouds most of their judgement.




You're lying.

First of all any human being who is challenged with "either you die or you follow my orders" and choses to die instead is stupid. Even the ones who helped out "the enemy" had to do so well-disguised and a lot of the time under the pretense of following orders. This has been true for every single war fought by a human being in the history of mankind.

What you're doing here is calling for genocide on Germans and (I think I have to remind you) Austrians. Next you're going to call for a genocide on the Italians and Japanese? From an objective point of view what you're saying here is WORSE than any mass-murderer in history has ever called for. Good job, well played.

"Good" and "evil" are very dangerous and vague terms in general. The Nazi regime and most of the people within it thought of themselves as good. So did the Allies. The Taliban think of America as evil. America thinks of themselves as being good. Does that mean what the Nazis did to others was good? Does that mean every American is a Muslim-devouring being? Bullshit.

Hint: Most of the time politicians use "good" and "evil" when they want your basic instincts and your understanding of belonging to some kind of larger group (whether it's race or religion or whatever) to overcome any possibility of rational thinking.


If you're really serious about what you're spewing out here: Please think about the fact that your DNA carries the same information which supported the Nazi regime just 70 years ago. What exactly does that make you?

On March 18 2012 19:28 Doublemint wrote:
There I REALLY came across some stuff like what "inspired" him to destroy and bomb Dresden the way it was done and that there was a lot of thought involved, but heroism and caring for civilians was not among it - he wanted to see it burn for Hitler´s sake. Which is understandable

On March 18 2012 19:44 teddyoojo wrote:

What? Double standards, I see.


i dont get how you people can say everyone would do it. you dont get dragged out of your normal life at gunpoint and forced to be a guard at a death camp. i mean really?

On March 18 2012 19:46 Holy_AT wrote:
The Nazis cant be "evilized" enough because of what they have done, and yes if my government was to gas and mass murder people by the hundred-thousands and millions I would strap a bomb to my chest and blow myself to kingdom come with as many Nazis around me as I could get.
This filth has to be eradicated at all cost even the smallest foothold of them nowadays needs to be purged.
Everyone saying Nazis weren't that bad and spoils of the victors shit is either a Nazi sympathizer or incredibly dumb, either way he is a threat to all that is good right and just and needs to vanquished.
It is my firm believe that any kind of sympathizing or excusing the excesses of this Nazi regime is a crime and needs to be punished even with the death penalty in some cases.

On March 18 2012 19:44 teddyoojo wrote:

What? Double standards, I see.


i dont get how you people can say everyone would do it. you dont get dragged out of your normal life at gunpoint and forced to be a guard at a death camp. i mean really?

On March 18 2012 19:54 teddyoojo wrote:
theres nothing important after i stopped quoting. its like saying tooth for tooth eye for eye

On March 18 2012 19:59 Doublemint wrote:


So? That´s war - isn´t it? There is no bad or good in the long run when so many lives are wasted to a stupid cause people go to war for in most cases. It was not just nazis who died there, just like in London where not only military personal died, it was civilians.

What I said was that, because people in Dresden were "nazis" we can not grieve for them. That´s the double standard and where the unjust and stupid social pressure is happening. Churchill definitely was a great man, but we seldomly hear about the bombing of Dresden and him being called out on the senseless bombing, do we?