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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
April 10 2009 05:55 GMT
#21
On April 10 2009 14:04 EvilTeletubby wrote:
So... this is basically like Ask Geeves; useful for retards that don't know how to properly use a search engine?


WORD i see people type shit into search engines like:

"how can i get to the mall on the bus"

>.<

and i work in a library, im dead fuckin serious
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Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-10 06:02:34
April 10 2009 06:00 GMT
#22
On April 10 2009 14:24 Bockit wrote:
Having read the full article now, I get the feeling that this isn't a search engine as we understand the term, rather it's supposed to be a compilation of all human knowledge that can be 'asked' for direct answers.

I think.


here's a better answer than my previous reply:

"I agree with Wolfram, that bias in the data choices will not be a problem, at least for a while. But even scientists don’t always agree on the answers to factual questions, or what models to use to describe the world — and this disagreement is essential to progress in science in fact. If there is only one “right” answer to any question there could never be progress, or even different points of view. Fortunately, Wolfram is desigining his system to link to alternative questions and answers at least, and even to sources for more information about the answers (such as the Wikipeda for example). In this way he can provide unambiguous factual answers, yet also connect to more information and points of view about them at the same time. This is important."

from http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/08/wolfram-alpha-computes-answers-to-factual-questions-this-is-going-to-be-big/

So this suggests that the system still supports traditional search engine capabilities, which might not be limited to answers.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
April 10 2009 06:00 GMT
#23
We'll see what happens when it comes out.

I think that even though the switching costs between search engines is low, the google search is "good enough", and will have people continue to go back to google. What would it take for users to change their behavior and switch away from google? that's the question that microsoft has been trying to answer for years now, and they still haven't been able to come up with anything.

Microsoft and google both have a bunch of smart people working for them - I doubt that he'll be able to come up with anything groundbreaking enough to improve on search directly.

This is of course, ignoring the other competitive advantages that google and microsoft have, such as deeper pockets, better infrastructure, etc.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 10 2009 06:06 GMT
#24
On April 10 2009 14:51 inlagdsil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2009 14:14 JeeJee wrote:
yeah here are some other google killers
http://www.answers.com/bb/
http://www.icerocket.com/
http://www.cuil.com/

bet you never heard of any of them either
(to be fair, some of those are actually good. cuil was made by ex-googlers for example, is really fast and gives great results. plus it has that whole slickness going for it, just like google. but you still haven't heard of it.)

I tested cuil many times starting on its release date. It sucked back then and couldn't even return itself when you typed in "cuil". It is better now but still not as good as google for most types of searches.


yes it wasn't good when it was released. few things are. google wasn't either

anyway i (like everyone) use google mainly.. i only use cuil when google fails me (which it does, sometimes). it has its uses

if it keeps getting better though, i might switch, but google's built-in filters are so great. cuil's working on something similar too though, so we'll see
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 10 2009 06:11 GMT
#25
I hate to be a pessimist but this sounds like a bad idea.

also I don't see how this is a google killer, google is a search engine. it finds web pages. all this does is answer questions?

also how exactly is this going to figure out if an answer is right or not based on math? that makes no sense.
Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
April 10 2009 06:12 GMT
#26
On April 10 2009 15:06 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2009 14:51 inlagdsil wrote:
On April 10 2009 14:14 JeeJee wrote:
yeah here are some other google killers
http://www.answers.com/bb/
http://www.icerocket.com/
http://www.cuil.com/

bet you never heard of any of them either
(to be fair, some of those are actually good. cuil was made by ex-googlers for example, is really fast and gives great results. plus it has that whole slickness going for it, just like google. but you still haven't heard of it.)

I tested cuil many times starting on its release date. It sucked back then and couldn't even return itself when you typed in "cuil". It is better now but still not as good as google for most types of searches.


yes it wasn't good when it was released. few things are. google wasn't either

anyway i (like everyone) use google mainly.. i only use cuil when google fails me (which it does, sometimes). it has its uses

if it keeps getting better though, i might switch, but google's built-in filters are so great. cuil's working on something similar too though, so we'll see


I just typed in a search for "inches to mm" in cuil.com to see if it would give me a conversion, but the most I got from the first page was a wikipedia article on 35mm film, one site that went down, and another that got blocked by noscript...
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
April 10 2009 06:13 GMT
#27
What is the meaning of life?
Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
April 10 2009 06:22 GMT
#28
On April 10 2009 15:11 travis wrote:
I hate to be a pessimist but this sounds like a bad idea.

also I don't see how this is a google killer, google is a search engine. it finds web pages. all this does is answer questions?

also how exactly is this going to figure out if an answer is right or not based on math? that makes no sense.


I wouldn't say that it's a bad idea, i think it will link you to relevant information even if your question doesn't have a definite answer. However, I do agree with you that it is different than google, because its purpose isn't to only search for random strings that you type in.

also how exactly is this going to figure out if an answer is right or not based on math? that makes no sense.


http://blog.wolfram.com/2009/03/05/wolframalpha-is-coming/
Sirakor
Profile Joined April 2003
Great Britain455 Posts
April 10 2009 06:31 GMT
#29
Google killer uh?

As mentioned, the fact that Google is a lot more than the mere search engine aside ...

... I may be misinformed, but for all I know the guy is working for Google now, so yeah if it works Google will make another killing.
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
April 10 2009 06:41 GMT
#30
lol google isnt goign to die anytime soon......
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teh leet newb
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1999 Posts
April 10 2009 06:41 GMT
#31
This reminds me of ChaCha lol. Some epically hilarious conversations...
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
April 10 2009 06:57 GMT
#32
On April 10 2009 14:00 mahnini wrote:
foolish. it's either going to take a lot of time or a lot of money to unseat google.


Google's had some really poor execution of the late, a traditional indicator of a once impressive juggernaut going to fail.
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
April 10 2009 07:11 GMT
#33
Google isn't just an engine now. They have a lot going on in the mobile market and moving on browsing.
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 10 2009 07:13 GMT
#34
I don't see how this would end up killing Google as a search engine. So what if it could possibly spit out the answer to some question, people don't use Google just for questions.
God Bless
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
April 10 2009 07:29 GMT
#35
If this were to accurately answer most direct questions, I could see myself using it ALONGSIDE Google. Google is a search engine used for finding websites, not just for answering questions.
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OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
April 10 2009 07:47 GMT
#36
ever since google came out
things have been sad
troi oi thang map nai!!!
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
April 10 2009 08:01 GMT
#37
wow. What he is proposing is the most audacious thing I've ever heard, and I love it.

does anyone understand what the implications of this are?
http://blog.wolfram.com/2009/03/05/wolframalpha-is-coming/
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-10 08:24:06
April 10 2009 08:23 GMT
#38
Google wil just buy this guy if his algo is better.
lol
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
April 10 2009 08:33 GMT
#39
i'm excited because mathematica is awesome, and there's a lot of potential here

but it's impossible to judge how effective this is going to just by reading the methodology. if the algorithms are really good, then they could truly be on to something

(unlike cuil, which you could tell was going to suck majorly just by reading how it worked)
Spartan
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2030 Posts
April 10 2009 08:44 GMT
#40
Cuil is a really great change of pace from your typical search engine. It does take a while to get used to though.
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