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On March 13 2009 20:02 JohnColtrane wrote:
lol fuck smoking
if you want to smoke fine do it in your home, dont do it in a public place that other people are in. cig smoke causes so many damn health problems, i dont care if smokers dont give a shit about their own health but the problem is it affects EVERYONE elses that breaths the smoke. skydiving doesnt have the potential to kill others that arent skydivers, but smoking does.
i wish australia would just ban cigarettes altogether
Uh no. Secondhand smoke only causes permanent/serious problems in cramped places with long term exposure. I don't think anyone has ever been killed by secondhand smoke inhalation.
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what if i walk to work every day through the city with people smoking on every street? it doesnt matter if nobody has been killed by it, there are plenty of respiratory problems that can arise from second hand smoke, especially to younger children. you telling me that as long as you dont die from second hand smoke, everything is ok?
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On March 13 2009 20:23 Loanshark wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 20:02 JohnColtrane wrote:
lol fuck smoking
if you want to smoke fine do it in your home, dont do it in a public place that other people are in. cig smoke causes so many damn health problems, i dont care if smokers dont give a shit about their own health but the problem is it affects EVERYONE elses that breaths the smoke. skydiving doesnt have the potential to kill others that arent skydivers, but smoking does.
i wish australia would just ban cigarettes altogether Uh no. Secondhand smoke only causes permanent/serious problems in cramped places with long term exposure. I don't think anyone has ever been killed by secondhand smoke inhalation.
While it don`t kill you it smells like shit, and makes the air nasty to breath. Should we non smoker have to smell like ashes after going out for a dinner just so the smokers can kill themselves slowly and pollute the air for the rest of us?
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On March 13 2009 20:28 Oystein wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 20:23 Loanshark wrote:On March 13 2009 20:02 JohnColtrane wrote:
lol fuck smoking
if you want to smoke fine do it in your home, dont do it in a public place that other people are in. cig smoke causes so many damn health problems, i dont care if smokers dont give a shit about their own health but the problem is it affects EVERYONE elses that breaths the smoke. skydiving doesnt have the potential to kill others that arent skydivers, but smoking does.
i wish australia would just ban cigarettes altogether Uh no. Secondhand smoke only causes permanent/serious problems in cramped places with long term exposure. I don't think anyone has ever been killed by secondhand smoke inhalation. While it don`t kill you it smells like shit, and makes the air nasty to breath. Should we non smoker have to smell like ashes after going out for a dinner just so the smokers can kill themselves slowly and pollute the air for the rest of us?
Smelling bad isn't really an argument to make it illegal, and them taking a few years of their lives on average is a choice they should be allowed to make.
Polluting the air? If that's your worry you might want to make cars illegal instead.
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cars serve a purpose, what purpose does smoking serve?
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On March 13 2009 20:26 JohnColtrane wrote:
what if i walk to work every day through the city with people smoking on every street? it doesnt matter if nobody has been killed by it, there are plenty of respiratory problems that can arise from second hand smoke, especially to younger children. you telling me that as long as you dont die from second hand smoke, everything is ok?
Yea it would totally suck to walk around to find everyone smoking. But the question is, what right do we have as none smokers to tell everyone on the single planet not to smoke? A lot of people smoke, and it would be pretty fucked up if we just straight up told them "hey you can't do this", because someday it might come back and bite us in the ass. What if Stacraft is completely banned because of health reasons? Its completely valid, sitting on your ass playing Starcraft is not healthy for you. Hell, getting 1a2a3a by D level toss players raises my stress level, making me ponder about reaching across the computer screen and choking them. Thats obviously not heathly, but is it enough reason to ban? So with smoking, I don't really think its a big enough for it to be completely banned. It is MUCH easier for nonsmokers to just go to a restaurant that has a no smoking policy than it is to ban smoking entirely. So until the streets are filled with massive chain smokers turning the air grey, I think I am against banning smoking.
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On March 13 2009 20:38 JohnColtrane wrote:
cars serve a purpose, what purpose does smoking serve?
I know in MGS you smoke a cig to calm Snake down so he can shoot more accurately.
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me sitting on my ass playing starcraft doesnt affect the guy down the road.
me sitting in my house smoking doesnt affect the guy down the road
me walking down the street smoking does affect the guy down the road
the first two are 100% fine with me, i dont mind if people smoke as long as they dont smoke in public areas, or heavily populated public areas
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sorry for being a bit of a stubborn dickhead today, just a bit of a touchy subject for me today
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On March 13 2009 20:38 JohnColtrane wrote:
cars serve a purpose, what purpose does smoking serve?
I'm not a smoker myself, but obviously people enjoy smoking since they keep doing it.
Cars let's people drive, which is more enjoyable then walking.
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The purpose of smoking is the nicotine. Nicotine in cigarettes release dopamine from your brain. Dopamine is the chemical your brain releases to tell your body "this feels good". That is why people smoke.
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What is the big deal smokers? Are you so self obsessed you cant even go outside to smoke because you dont care about people who dont want to smell like smoke all day long, just because they wanted to outside for a meal for a change? I cant stand it when someone smokes beside me (I start to caugh almost to I vomit and everyone in my family smokes beside me)
Im so glad norway passed this law, and I hope every country do so too
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On March 13 2009 20:36 Zyrre wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 20:28 Oystein wrote:On March 13 2009 20:23 Loanshark wrote:On March 13 2009 20:02 JohnColtrane wrote:
lol fuck smoking
if you want to smoke fine do it in your home, dont do it in a public place that other people are in. cig smoke causes so many damn health problems, i dont care if smokers dont give a shit about their own health but the problem is it affects EVERYONE elses that breaths the smoke. skydiving doesnt have the potential to kill others that arent skydivers, but smoking does.
i wish australia would just ban cigarettes altogether Uh no. Secondhand smoke only causes permanent/serious problems in cramped places with long term exposure. I don't think anyone has ever been killed by secondhand smoke inhalation. While it don`t kill you it smells like shit, and makes the air nasty to breath. Should we non smoker have to smell like ashes after going out for a dinner just so the smokers can kill themselves slowly and pollute the air for the rest of us? Smelling bad isn't really an argument to make it illegal, and them taking a few years of their lives on average is a choice they should be allowed to make. Polluting the air? If that's your worry you might want to make cars illegal instead.
Its a damn good argument for making it illegal in public indoor places, I don`t care if people smoke outside (tho in ideal world smokes would be totally banned). And I did not mean it in the sense "oh noes the ozone layer is failing" I meant it in the way that I have to breath the air that smells\tastes like smoke, and as coltrane said, cars serve a purpose, smoking don`t.
Like I said in my last post I want to be able to go to a restaurant for lunch and not smell like ashes coming back from it, and luckily where I live I can do that 
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On March 13 2009 20:59 Patrio wrote:
What is the big deal smokers? Are you so self obsessed you cant even go outside to smoke because you dont care about people who dont want to smell like smoke all day long, just because they wanted to outside for a meal for a change? I cant stand it when someone smokes beside me (I start to caugh almost to I vomit and everyone in my family smokes beside me)
Im so glad norway passed this law, and I hope every country do so too
Nope, at least, not me. I try to be as good-mannered as I can towards non-smokers when smoking. Its just the atmosphere I guess, like when your at a bar or pool hall, makes a "chill" situation even more "chill".
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On March 13 2009 20:18 KlaCkoN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 20:06 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
"The government should limit the freedoms of the citizens, and make the choices that are obviously stupid for them."
Freudian slip? Most likely just a case of less than perfect English grammar, you understood what he meant didn't you? =p
god i suck^^
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It was funny, nttea
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Im so Happy to live in a undeveloped nation where i can smoke almost everywhere.
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On March 13 2009 20:59 Patrio wrote:
What is the big deal smokers? Are you so self obsessed you cant even go outside to smoke because you dont care about people who dont want to smell like smoke all day long, just because they wanted to outside for a meal for a change? I cant stand it when someone smokes beside me (I start to caugh almost to I vomit and everyone in my family smokes beside me)
Im so glad norway passed this law, and I hope every country do so too
Agreed, this needs to be everywhere, not just city-by-city.
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good, its gross when smoking is allowed in public places. I play pool and its absolutely disgusting when I leave there. My clothes smell like absolute shit and I cant leave there and go anywhere else really..... I need to go straight home and change. Its gross as fuck in bars too. I Swear by the end of the night I can taste it in my drinks. When I was in Ireland a few years ago smoking was banned in all public places. It was so much nicer going to the bar and to go play pool there because of no cigarettes.
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