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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
February 14 2009 07:15 GMT
#81
'why does racism exist' is pretty vague, especially considering how the word racism has been distorted and overused to fit people's agendas
NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-14 07:20:06
February 14 2009 07:19 GMT
#82
wasnt a good comparison

#1 because we are not talking about religion therefore it is not valid. Why complicate the discussion by throwing religion into u dumb fuck.

#2 Blaming slavery* IS a valid point regardless if it was subject to selecting race as criteria.

#3 I never said I hated myself or Caucasion.

Your first assumption (#3) is wrong. Your comparison complicates the discussion with massive factors therefore it cannot help the discussion process (#1). And #2 is right because i'm the fucking man - ARE YOU HAPPY?

* = edit
Treatin' fools since '87
NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
February 14 2009 07:21 GMT
#83
BlackJack has got a point. But then again none of us are scholars and cannot specifically answer it anyway without generalization. So the OP's question is fitting.
Treatin' fools since '87
delevetti
Profile Joined November 2004
Finland9 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-14 08:47:51
February 14 2009 08:46 GMT
#84
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Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-14 11:52:51
February 14 2009 11:43 GMT
#85
I have lived in Canada, Malaysia and now I'm in UK.

In my experience, people are racists because THEY ARE TAUGHT TO BE RACISTS!!! Historical facts, mass media, culture, religion, etc. How can you NOT be racism wtfomgbbq?

Root causes: People are bias and stupid. Shit happens. Thread closed.
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
February 14 2009 12:12 GMT
#86
animals are racists, the homo sapiens is no exception

the strange is always hostile and dangerous and as we don't have an emotional bond to all ethnicities, the strange is fought by creating prejudices (which are an expression of our fear imo).

it's also important to underline the personal superiority over others. you also hate fat people.
yunicyarblejellythou
Profile Joined August 2007
United States77 Posts
February 14 2009 12:21 GMT
#87
Racism is like algebra I. When you first hear of it, it appears difficult but when you actually become educated you realize its fairly simple. And that is what a lot of people for differing reasons try to obfuscate: your education on the matter. Once you are educated the mystic of racism goes away and it no longer is a tough question in terms of comprehension. The better and tougher question is how do we fix it.

If I had to answer it I would say two ways.

1) Educate people
2) Be open and honest about race. Too many people follow the same political rubric (at least in this country) that is largely obtrusive to true racial equanimity.When I am open with my friends about my feelings of race and expectations I find that a lot more gets achieved.
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Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-14 12:41:00
February 14 2009 12:40 GMT
#88
Fear of unknown and lack of education is the combo imo.

Btw, it has been proved that if only one of the so called "races" survived to a cataclysm, the 85-95% of the human dna variants will be saved. That's really far away from the numbers of any other animal species races. So, there's no such a thing as "human races".
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Wotans_Fire
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United Kingdom294 Posts
February 14 2009 12:46 GMT
#89
On February 14 2009 21:21 yunicyarblejellythou wrote:
Racism is like algebra I. When you first hear of it, it appears difficult but when you actually become educated you realize its fairly simple. And that is what a lot of people for differing reasons try to obfuscate: your education on the matter. Once you are educated the mystic of racism goes away and it no longer is a tough question in terms of comprehension. The better and tougher question is how do we fix it.

If I had to answer it I would say two ways.

1) Educate people
2) Be open and honest about race. Too many people follow the same political rubric (at least in this country) that is largely obtrusive to true racial equanimity.When I am open with my friends about my feelings of race and expectations I find that a lot more gets achieved.


Educated in what exactly? In the marxist college of propaganda? You are the establishment, the liberals always like to blame everything on their scapegoat racists, but in reality it is they who are in charge and have been for quite some time.

Why is it that only western nations have some moral obligation and view their own demographic and cultural decline as some sort of achievement? Britain for example will be 50% white in 50 years. If I were to go to Korea and tell them that their country will be 50% British they would call me racist. If I went to a muslim country and told them that they will be 50% christian I would as well be called racist or imperialist.

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KaasZerg
Profile Joined November 2005
Netherlands927 Posts
February 14 2009 12:56 GMT
#90
On February 14 2009 16:04 NastyMarine wrote:

SO SINCE WE ARE TALKING RACISM WE AUGHT TO MENTION SLAVERY. WHY WOULD A PEOPLE ADOPT SOMETHING AS CRUEL AS SLAVERY? DISCUSS PLEASE.

If you want to talk history, how recent was Slavery in AMERICA?


Slavery is thousands of years old. Maybe older then the concept of property. There were slaves with the same etnicity and religion as the owner.

Slaves were hauled from places where less resistence was expected. Enslaving neighbours just outside your doorstep doesn't make much sence because you create very dangerous enemies. The African tribes were in no position to retaliate or defend. The cultural distance made it eassier to treat humans as objects. The West-Africans were the most commercially viable.

Hostility between cultures is old as mankind. So slavery is a symptom of that. Competition and beneficial co-existance have always been in flux and probably forever will.

Economic drive is also a motive for slaves. The majority of all humans that ever lived, lived in abhorrent poverty. Peasant running out of food offered themselves as slaves or their familymembers to secure a future as a slave. It may sound absurd. But think what structural hunger, fear of the future or living outside citywalls with plundering hordes could do to your spirit.There was no room to bargain. The other option was to die.
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
February 14 2009 14:50 GMT
#91
I won't speculate on why it exists (probably just human nature), but I will say that it will continue for a very long time as long as we continue to be such a race-focused culture with things like affirmative action, Black History Month, etc. etc.. People nowadays are so often taught that "racism is wrong" then are subjected to constant streams of tribalism which is really just racism in disguise; i.e., recognizing people foremost as their race. If you really want to end it, celebrate people as people, and their achievements as individuals, not as members of whatever various collective an accident of birth happened to place them in.
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-14 15:21:51
February 14 2009 15:15 GMT
#92
It exists the same way religion does, because most people are stupid, and would believe almost anything they hear even if its moronicly dumb, if it helps them answer things they dont understand, and if it helps convince others that its true.. Lack of knowledge, education, limited views on the world, no proper parenting, slavery, wars between "races" etc. etc. etc.....

Besides, what would you believe easier, that a white dude robed you, or a "nigga"...
One ring, to rule them all!
Tehinf
Profile Joined September 2008
United States192 Posts
February 14 2009 15:36 GMT
#93
Because people are arrogant and think they are the best.
"Good, better, best. Never let it rest until your good is better, and your better is best."
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-14 16:56:43
February 14 2009 16:45 GMT
#94
On February 14 2009 16:21 NastyMarine wrote:
BlackJack has got a point. But then again none of us are scholars and cannot specifically answer it anyway without generalization. So the OP's question is fitting.

Some of us are pretty well read in sociology, history and political thought, just no one listens to us. o.o

Slavery is not inherently racist. It wasn't particularly racist in the US until after Bacon's Rebellion and even for many years later, indentured servants lived much worse lives than did slaves.

It's easy enough to speculate on race relations from your bedroom or office (as many professors who write about this stuff do) but would you care to join me the next time I'm working in the Cass Corridor in Detroit or when I go down to the 9th Ward in NO? Or are you going to get a lump in your throat about being unsafe. BTW, overt racism is alive and well down there, and it starts with the pigs.
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HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
February 14 2009 17:22 GMT
#95
This topic is oh so simple yet oh so complex. So I'll refrain from posting.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
February 14 2009 18:28 GMT
#96
On February 14 2009 16:13 NastyMarine wrote:


This is called the superiority complex - which is seen in all races. Regardless of Caucasian history and my individual theory, I TRULY BELIEVE whenever slavery was first adopted into human culture (for whatever reason), racism was and will always be sealed into the fate of humanity for all eternity - Until a miracle or threat of extinction unites us all.

GG no re



Slavery was around significantly longer than the slave trade. As appealing as the "blame whitey" argument can be, it's not so simple. That being said, Caucasians do tend to be more prone towards cultural imperialism and other signs of racial antagonism (not ethnic antagonism, which is a totally different beast) than others, in the recent one thousand years.
cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
February 14 2009 18:35 GMT
#97
On February 15 2009 02:22 HamerD wrote:
This topic is oh so simple yet oh so complex. So I'll refrain from posting.


Yet you did post ... +1 post count gogo
cava!
stk01001
Profile Joined September 2007
United States786 Posts
February 14 2009 19:36 GMT
#98
racisim will always exist because people are fearful of change, stubborn and ignorant... as it happens most conservatives/republicans possess all of these traits .. coincidence? I think not...
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
February 14 2009 20:21 GMT
#99
The same things that encourage people to be nationalistic and proud of their country contribute to racism. So you just have to think about what things make you like your country over others.

For example, when a british comedian jokes about the french surrendering too soon, everyone knows it's just for fun, but it plants little biases in people's minds. Most people get their opinions from media and other people, so no wonder this stuff gets amplified.
No I'm never serious.
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
February 14 2009 20:35 GMT
#100
On February 14 2009 04:44 JudgeMathis wrote:
Because people think their superior to others.


On February 14 2009 04:01 oneofthem wrote:
human nature imo



Agree with these. We are always going to try to look for differences and label them. But those differences might become miniscual if we had even something vast different than race, for example, another life species (aliens living on earth)
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