EPTIn your opinion, why do you think racism exists? - Page 7
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dhe95
United States1213 Posts
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iheartgna
United States184 Posts
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Reason
United Kingdom2770 Posts
This may be due to racism, or may be one of the causes of it. What came first, the chicken or the egg? | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
On February 15 2009 15:52 Jibba wrote: Savio, both sides of that argument are dangerously oversimplified. You can't simply suggest that racism doesn't factor into a disproportionate number of minorities being in prison because a disproportionate number of minorities commit crimes, when it may be that the cops reporting crimes are as racist as the judges sentencing them. Ignoring race is definitely problematic as well though. It would be really incredible if the major reason that more minorities are in jail it due to the racism of the justice system rather than actual current difference in socioeconomic circumstances and subcultures. For what you say to be true, you would have to have racist cops in every single state in which minorities are overrepresented in prison, then you would need to add onto that racist a racist justice system in all of those states again to convict them to actual prison sentences. Then we could break it down by county and say the same thing would have to apply in every single county in which we find this phenomenon. That really would be incredible. But I don't think it is the case. The fact is that people who grow up in single parent homes and poor neighborhoods and then are exposed to a culture of "gangsta rap" are more likely to commit crimes. | ||
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distant_voice
Germany2521 Posts
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dubRa
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
I'll be honest black people are the most racist in the United States at least. The entire election was racist in 2008 and I'm going to pursue that as my capstone next fall, if I'm able to :/ | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On February 24 2009 17:55 Savio wrote: It would be really incredible if the major reason that more minorities are in jail it due to the racism of the justice system rather than actual current difference in socioeconomic circumstances and subcultures. For what you say to be true, you would have to have racist cops in every single state in which minorities are overrepresented in prison, then you would need to add onto that racist a racist justice system in all of those states again to convict them to actual prison sentences. Then we could break it down by county and say the same thing would have to apply in every single county in which we find this phenomenon. That really would be incredible. But I don't think it is the case. The fact is that people who grow up in single parent homes and poor neighborhoods and then are exposed to a culture of "gangsta rap" are more likely to commit crimes. It's the combination of two socioeconomic groups and 2+ subcultures acting within eachother. In some areas, "gang culture" might be a practical response to an abusive police force/justice system, while in others it may be idiotic or caused by some other reason. It's tempting, but it's also usually a mistake to try and claim an overarching theme for any type of social behavior. Again, racism isn't just an overt practice by people who hate other groups. It's aversive as well, so a judge who is loaded up with way too many cases to handle might defer to a police officer rather than the accused, and make that generalization in part due to the way he was brought up. It's doubtful that any person makes a decision without some inherent bias, and in this case the bias is usually in favor of the upper class, whites or males because those are the groups that hold the most power in society. | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
In sweden, people who are racists have a strong opinion about foreigners who has fled here from war or for other reasons. They are often different and (at first) they don't fit in very well and it's not hard at all to be a hater. If you don't commit yourself to understanding the bigger picture you can see a bit of the truth and base your logic's on that. And it's also very convenient, It's like believing in god - you can blame shit on something. The mindset is sometimes a little bit like piracy. "I know downloading is wrong but I don't give a shit". A racist could go "I know every person deserves to live and be free from torture and whatnot but i don't give a shit". This kind of mindset is not always bad, it's a tough world out there.. | ||
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DeathSpank
United States1029 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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