EPTYeah we'll just ignore scientific studies and go with what you think sounds logical.
Do you know anything about epistomology?
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ManBearPig
Belgium207 Posts
Yeah we'll just ignore scientific studies and go with what you think sounds logical. Do you know anything about epistomology? | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:12 MarklarMarklar wrote: "that is a garbage dump of logic that people quote to make themselves feel established" generalize more you fuckhead, throw all studies in one fucking pile the size of your Ass. p.s. our bodies use pain to tell us something is wrong yeah, but if our mind knows its being done by a human being on purpose it shows that the childs psychology can change towards the concept of violence and so on. Not every child, but enough of em. I don't have to generalize to lump your terrible argument with all the other seudo intellectuals who say "well Barthes once said.. SO IT MUST BE TRUE." Saying "studies show" is the most vague attempt at claiming legitimacy I have ever heard. Do you realize I could run a fucking "study" right now and determine that 100% of Washitonians (me) believe Dinosaurs exist on the moon? If you want to cite a specific study, one we can engage or discuss that is fine. But blandly stating that STUDIES HAVE SHOW means nothing. Don't get all fucking pissy when I point out that you are a dinner table intellectual who would love it if people just fucking assumed when a person says "studies have shown" that they are obviously right. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:14 ManBearPig wrote: lol incontrol Yeah we'll just ignore scientific studies and go with what you think sounds logical. Do you know anything about epistomology? Ok jackass.. read my below post. Studies have conflicting results. If anyone wants to display a specific study that we can engage that is fine. Studies have shown that the earth is flat (long ago). Studies have also shown that milk is bad for you. Then studies showed that milk is good for you. Studies have shown stretching before a physical activity is bad for you. IT MEANS NOTHING | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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MarklarMarklar
Fiji1823 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:11 Hawk wrote: So was it too much abuse, or a lack of spanking that led you to become a attention seeking, cross dresser on the internetz? new blog time | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:14 Klive5ive wrote: You're accusing me of trolling when you start a post with "I don't care what studies have shown" followed by lines of your own psychological analysis. I feel you're defending your own parents, which is fair enough. I got hit occasionally and it wasn't a big deal but there are other methods of negative and positive reinforcement that don't involve violence or confuse a child more. 3rd time I address this: I am attacking the notion that people can cite the universal "studies" and claim legitimacy. | ||
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ManBearPig
Belgium207 Posts
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MarklarMarklar
Fiji1823 Posts
for people who hasnt read the studies, like you. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:16 BlackStar wrote: {88}iNcontroL, don't try to make amusement about a topic that involves violence against children. If this was about politics or something I guess I could accept it on christmas evening. But this is bad taste. Are you really that dumb? In this post alone you somehow get that my support of moderate spanking is a joke. Then you assert that politics are ok to joke about.. but not spanking children. Like, I am baffled at how incredibly retarded such a small post can be. It is literally crammed with the most illogical posting...jesus christ. You'd be an achievement if it weren't for how bad you are. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:18 ManBearPig wrote: I think at least one, maybe two studies have been cited in this thread, one by frits, who studies psychology at a good university. So yeah. Not by the people I am addressing now. And like I said, other studies have shown spanking is fine. Does that mean they are right? No, it means they have a result motivated by a study. Btw: going to a good university (subjective) and studying psychology is a close second in vague retarded claims to legitimacy to "studies have shown." I have friends at Georgetown, Stanford, Harvard etc.. and they are fully capable of bad opinions like anyone else. | ||
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ManBearPig
Belgium207 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Ok jackass.. read my below post. Studies have conflicting results. If anyone wants to display a specific study that we can engage that is fine. Studies have shown that the earth is flat (long ago). Studies have also shown that milk is bad for you. Then studies showed that milk is good for you. Studies have shown stretching before a physical activity is bad for you. IT MEANS NOTHING Oh my good lord, the fallacies, THE FALLACIES. 'Studies' haven't shown the earth is flat, not even long ago, if you wanna use the word 'studies' in an acceptable manner. I think milk IS bad for you, but I'm not aware of studies on this subject so I won't go into this. At any rate, pointing out conflicts in former studies on completely unrelated subjects, has nothing to do with our subject and the studies performed thereon, neither does it have any consequences for the reliability of scientific knowledge in general, because, believe it or not, it requires multiple studies, with double-blind experiments and all that shit. You're stupid. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:19 MarklarMarklar wrote: for people who hasnt read the studies, like you. *Haven't I debated this issue on a collegiate circuit for numerous years. I will go ahead and assume I have read countless more "studies" on said issue than you. | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote: In this post alone you somehow get that my support of moderate spanking is a joke. Then you assert that politics are ok to joke about.. but not spanking children. I guess this is your way of apologizing? One wasn't really necessary. But fun stuff has to be fun first and foremost. No hard feelings here either. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:22 ManBearPig wrote: Oh my good lord, the fallacies, THE FALLACIES. 'Studies' haven't shown the earth is flat, not even long ago, if you wanna use the word 'studies' in an acceptable manner. I think milk IS bad for you, but I'm not aware of studies on this subject so I won't go into this. At any rate, pointing out conflicts in former studies on completely unrelated subjects, has nothing to do with our subject and the studies performed thereon, neither does it have any consequences for the reliability of scientific knowledge in general, because, believe it or not, it requires multiple studies, with double-blind experiments and all that shit. You're stupid. I'm sure you will understand if I don't take your "you're stupid" comment too seriously? You are in fact completely retarded.. and a new poster around here. You have nothing to work with aside from your ignorant defense of the almighty "studies have shown." I look forward to the day I see you banned  We have enough shitty posters around here as is evident with blackstar and such. | ||
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MarklarMarklar
Fiji1823 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote: *Haven't I debated this issue on a collegiate circuit for numerous years. I will go ahead and assume I have read countless more "studies" on said issue than you. that was at yank ones tho and everyone knows how yank feel about spankin', go to a european one and have a different experience. | ||
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ManBearPig
Belgium207 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:21 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Not by the people I am addressing now. And like I said, other studies have shown spanking is fine. Does that mean they are right? No, it means they have a result motivated by a study. Btw: going to a good university (subjective) and studying psychology is a close second in vague retarded claims to legitimacy to "studies have shown." I have friends at Georgetown, Stanford, Harvard etc.. and they are fully capable of bad opinions like anyone else. lol So I have to quote his study again, even if it was cited in the SAME THREAD ONLY PAGES AGO? Did you just say there are conflicting studies on spanking without citing any? Because I think you were just attacking EXACTLY THIS? Yeah the authority is irrelevant, but you were saying unqualified people were making claims about 'some studies'. I refuted this. God I hate you | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On December 25 2008 06:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Studies have shown that the earth is flat (long ago). You're not trusting "historical studies" for that information I hope. You better have some decent evidence to back that up that you can cite RIGHT NOW in this thread to contain my zerg anger. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
beating helps... I wasnt beaten and I can tell you that Im a little spoiled little bitch and a fagget... beating your kid helps... trust me.. + Show Spoiler + I mean beating by spanking and reasonable physical discipline, not fucking them up or anything likethat | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
can people start citing some sources as to all these 'studies' going on that 'prove' that spanking (and nothing more severe than that) combined with good parenting (we need to control for other factors), increases the chance that kids will be violent. this is actually pretty interesting stuff to me, particularly because i want to know if i should hit my kids or not. | ||
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