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ManBearPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Belgium207 Posts
December 24 2008 21:14 GMT
#201
lol incontrol
Yeah we'll just ignore scientific studies and go with what you think sounds logical.
Do you know anything about epistomology?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 24 2008 21:15 GMT
#202
On December 25 2008 06:12 MarklarMarklar wrote:
"that is a garbage dump of logic that people quote to make themselves feel established"

generalize more you fuckhead, throw all studies in one fucking pile the size of your Ass.

p.s. our bodies use pain to tell us something is wrong yeah, but if our mind knows its being done by a human being on purpose it shows that the childs psychology can change towards the concept of violence and so on. Not every child, but enough of em.


I don't have to generalize to lump your terrible argument with all the other seudo intellectuals who say "well Barthes once said.. SO IT MUST BE TRUE." Saying "studies show" is the most vague attempt at claiming legitimacy I have ever heard. Do you realize I could run a fucking "study" right now and determine that 100% of Washitonians (me) believe Dinosaurs exist on the moon? If you want to cite a specific study, one we can engage or discuss that is fine. But blandly stating that STUDIES HAVE SHOW means nothing. Don't get all fucking pissy when I point out that you are a dinner table intellectual who would love it if people just fucking assumed when a person says "studies have shown" that they are obviously right.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 24 2008 21:16 GMT
#203
On December 25 2008 06:14 ManBearPig wrote:
lol incontrol
Yeah we'll just ignore scientific studies and go with what you think sounds logical.
Do you know anything about epistomology?


Ok jackass.. read my below post. Studies have conflicting results. If anyone wants to display a specific study that we can engage that is fine. Studies have shown that the earth is flat (long ago). Studies have also shown that milk is bad for you. Then studies showed that milk is good for you. Studies have shown stretching before a physical activity is bad for you.

IT MEANS NOTHING
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
December 24 2008 21:16 GMT
#204
{88}iNcontroL, don't try to make amusement about a topic that involves violence against children. If this was about politics or something I guess I could accept it on christmas evening. But this is bad taste.
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
December 24 2008 21:17 GMT
#205
On December 25 2008 06:11 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2008 06:00 MarklarMarklar wrote:
but incontrol, studies have shown that spanking aint really good for the child, just like other forms of violence. to make a person feel pain to show that something is wrong to do = connects certain things in that childs head that shouldnt be connected which means likelyhood of violence in adolescence etc etc

i guess it depends on the childs genetics as well and other things, but still. There are better alternatives to raising a child than fucking spanking.

friggin american retards, thats right i said it, even tho obama has been elected and my dislike for yanks has gone down, when it comes to this FUCK YANKS.


So was it too much abuse, or a lack of spanking that led you to become a attention seeking, cross dresser on the internetz?


new blog time
hello there
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 24 2008 21:18 GMT
#206
On December 25 2008 06:14 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2008 06:11 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
you guys are fucking shitty posters. stop trolling and engage the fucking argument or just leave the thread

You're accusing me of trolling when you start a post with "I don't care what studies have shown" followed by lines of your own psychological analysis.

I feel you're defending your own parents, which is fair enough. I got hit occasionally and it wasn't a big deal but there are other methods of negative and positive reinforcement that don't involve violence or confuse a child more.


3rd time I address this: I am attacking the notion that people can cite the universal "studies" and claim legitimacy.
ManBearPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Belgium207 Posts
December 24 2008 21:18 GMT
#207
I think at least one, maybe two studies have been cited in this thread, one by frits, who studies psychology at a good university. So yeah.
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
December 24 2008 21:19 GMT
#208
On December 25 2008 06:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2008 06:14 ManBearPig wrote:
lol incontrol
Yeah we'll just ignore scientific studies and go with what you think sounds logical.
Do you know anything about epistomology?

IT MEANS NOTHING


for people who hasnt read the studies, like you.
hello there
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 24 2008 21:19 GMT
#209
On December 25 2008 06:16 BlackStar wrote:
{88}iNcontroL, don't try to make amusement about a topic that involves violence against children. If this was about politics or something I guess I could accept it on christmas evening. But this is bad taste.


Are you really that dumb?

In this post alone you somehow get that my support of moderate spanking is a joke. Then you assert that politics are ok to joke about.. but not spanking children. Like, I am baffled at how incredibly retarded such a small post can be. It is literally crammed with the most illogical posting...jesus christ. You'd be an achievement if it weren't for how bad you are.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 24 2008 21:21 GMT
#210
On December 25 2008 06:18 ManBearPig wrote:
I think at least one, maybe two studies have been cited in this thread, one by frits, who studies psychology at a good university. So yeah.


Not by the people I am addressing now. And like I said, other studies have shown spanking is fine. Does that mean they are right? No, it means they have a result motivated by a study.

Btw: going to a good university (subjective) and studying psychology is a close second in vague retarded claims to legitimacy to "studies have shown." I have friends at Georgetown, Stanford, Harvard etc.. and they are fully capable of bad opinions like anyone else.
ManBearPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Belgium207 Posts
December 24 2008 21:22 GMT
#211
On December 25 2008 06:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2008 06:14 ManBearPig wrote:
lol incontrol
Yeah we'll just ignore scientific studies and go with what you think sounds logical.
Do you know anything about epistomology?


Ok jackass.. read my below post. Studies have conflicting results. If anyone wants to display a specific study that we can engage that is fine. Studies have shown that the earth is flat (long ago). Studies have also shown that milk is bad for you. Then studies showed that milk is good for you. Studies have shown stretching before a physical activity is bad for you.

IT MEANS NOTHING


Oh my good lord, the fallacies, THE FALLACIES.
'Studies' haven't shown the earth is flat, not even long ago, if you wanna use the word 'studies' in an acceptable manner. I think milk IS bad for you, but I'm not aware of studies on this subject so I won't go into this.
At any rate, pointing out conflicts in former studies on completely unrelated subjects, has nothing to do with our subject and the studies performed thereon, neither does it have any consequences for the reliability of scientific knowledge in general, because, believe it or not, it requires multiple studies, with double-blind experiments and all that shit.
You're stupid.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 24 2008 21:23 GMT
#212
On December 25 2008 06:19 MarklarMarklar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2008 06:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On December 25 2008 06:14 ManBearPig wrote:
lol incontrol
Yeah we'll just ignore scientific studies and go with what you think sounds logical.
Do you know anything about epistomology?

IT MEANS NOTHING


for people who hasnt read the studies, like you.


*Haven't

I debated this issue on a collegiate circuit for numerous years. I will go ahead and assume I have read countless more "studies" on said issue than you.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
December 24 2008 21:23 GMT
#213
On December 25 2008 06:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
In this post alone you somehow get that my support of moderate spanking is a joke. Then you assert that politics are ok to joke about.. but not spanking children.


I guess this is your way of apologizing? One wasn't really necessary. But fun stuff has to be fun first and foremost. No hard feelings here either.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 24 2008 21:24 GMT
#214
On December 25 2008 06:22 ManBearPig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2008 06:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On December 25 2008 06:14 ManBearPig wrote:
lol incontrol
Yeah we'll just ignore scientific studies and go with what you think sounds logical.
Do you know anything about epistomology?


Ok jackass.. read my below post. Studies have conflicting results. If anyone wants to display a specific study that we can engage that is fine. Studies have shown that the earth is flat (long ago). Studies have also shown that milk is bad for you. Then studies showed that milk is good for you. Studies have shown stretching before a physical activity is bad for you.

IT MEANS NOTHING


Oh my good lord, the fallacies, THE FALLACIES.
'Studies' haven't shown the earth is flat, not even long ago, if you wanna use the word 'studies' in an acceptable manner. I think milk IS bad for you, but I'm not aware of studies on this subject so I won't go into this.
At any rate, pointing out conflicts in former studies on completely unrelated subjects, has nothing to do with our subject and the studies performed thereon, neither does it have any consequences for the reliability of scientific knowledge in general, because, believe it or not, it requires multiple studies, with double-blind experiments and all that shit.
You're stupid.


I'm sure you will understand if I don't take your "you're stupid" comment too seriously? You are in fact completely retarded.. and a new poster around here. You have nothing to work with aside from your ignorant defense of the almighty "studies have shown." I look forward to the day I see you banned We have enough shitty posters around here as is evident with blackstar and such.
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
December 24 2008 21:24 GMT
#215
On December 25 2008 06:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2008 06:19 MarklarMarklar wrote:
On December 25 2008 06:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On December 25 2008 06:14 ManBearPig wrote:
lol incontrol
Yeah we'll just ignore scientific studies and go with what you think sounds logical.
Do you know anything about epistomology?

IT MEANS NOTHING


for people who hasnt read the studies, like you.


*Haven't

I debated this issue on a collegiate circuit for numerous years. I will go ahead and assume I have read countless more "studies" on said issue than you.



that was at yank ones tho and everyone knows how yank feel about spankin', go to a european one and have a different experience.
hello there
ManBearPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Belgium207 Posts
December 24 2008 21:25 GMT
#216
On December 25 2008 06:21 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2008 06:18 ManBearPig wrote:
I think at least one, maybe two studies have been cited in this thread, one by frits, who studies psychology at a good university. So yeah.


Not by the people I am addressing now. And like I said, other studies have shown spanking is fine. Does that mean they are right? No, it means they have a result motivated by a study.

Btw: going to a good university (subjective) and studying psychology is a close second in vague retarded claims to legitimacy to "studies have shown." I have friends at Georgetown, Stanford, Harvard etc.. and they are fully capable of bad opinions like anyone else.


lol
So I have to quote his study again, even if it was cited in the SAME THREAD ONLY PAGES AGO?
Did you just say there are conflicting studies on spanking without citing any? Because I think you were just attacking EXACTLY THIS?
Yeah the authority is irrelevant, but you were saying unqualified people were making claims about 'some studies'. I refuted this.
God I hate you
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
December 24 2008 21:25 GMT
#217
On December 25 2008 06:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Studies have shown that the earth is flat (long ago).

You're not trusting "historical studies" for that information I hope. You better have some decent evidence to back that up that you can cite RIGHT NOW in this thread to contain my zerg anger.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
December 24 2008 21:25 GMT
#218
I beat my little boy and everytime I tell him "No!" He listens, he gives me a little attitude but he doesnt do it (he is one year old), baby mama doesnt beat him and he never listens to her.. NEVER..

beating helps...

I wasnt beaten and I can tell you that Im a little spoiled little bitch and a fagget...

beating your kid helps... trust me..

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I mean beating by spanking and reasonable physical discipline, not fucking them up or anything likethat
w/e
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
December 24 2008 21:26 GMT
#219
Ok I have to admit it's actually funny that people will still debate eventhough they realize it's bascially a self-admitted troll, just for the sake of debating.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
December 24 2008 21:28 GMT
#220
inc has a point.

can people start citing some sources as to all these 'studies' going on that 'prove' that spanking (and nothing more severe than that) combined with good parenting (we need to control for other factors), increases the chance that kids will be violent.

this is actually pretty interesting stuff to me, particularly because i want to know if i should hit my kids or not.
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