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United States7488 Posts
On December 04 2008 03:02 LonelyMargarita wrote: And adding on to my post: American smalls are 36", whereas Korean mediums are usually 38-39". With a 38.5" chest, I look really funny in American smalls, but Korean mediums will form very close to my body, and taper as well.
Basically, I think you need two polls, one for American sizes, and one for Korean. Specify the measurements as well: American - 36", 40", 44", 48" (s, m, l, xl), Korean - 38", 40", 42.5" (m, l, xl). I think you are one of the only people that is so in depth with this. I don't disagree with you... I'm actually more on your way of looking at the shirts, but most guys I know and most on this website probably don't know or care to know enough to make as calculated of a decision as you or I on this poll. :p
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I'm a large now. My chest sticks out like crazy.
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American large fits me perfectly after a wash or two.
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On December 04 2008 04:26 kidd wrote: American large fits me perfectly after a wash or two. the same with me, although I found that the shirt sizes in America vary so much from store to store
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On December 04 2008 04:15 JudgeMathis wrote: I'm a large now. My chest sticks out like crazy. See a doctor 
I'm a medium or small depending on the brand. They seem to vary considerably.
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Medium American, though it depends on the shirt manufacturer.
Some companies I get large, and after washing them a couple times it's the same size as my other mediums...
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holy shit so many smalls and mediums..... TL IS SMALL O.o
(American Large)
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United States7488 Posts
On December 04 2008 04:15 JudgeMathis wrote: I'm a large now. My chest sticks out like crazy. Are you female?
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Depends on the maker of the shirt but it's usually a large sometimes a medium also i hate tall T and other stupid shit.
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On December 04 2008 04:36 Zortch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2008 04:15 JudgeMathis wrote: I'm a large now. My chest sticks out like crazy. See a doctor  I'm a medium or small depending on the brand. They seem to vary considerably. Nope.
On December 04 2008 04:53 semioldguy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2008 04:15 JudgeMathis wrote: I'm a large now. My chest sticks out like crazy. Are you female? 
14 / f / florida. haaaai. :-) Jk. No, but I'm a big boy. pics r s2r.
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On December 04 2008 03:53 infinity21 wrote: I wear both medium and large American but I voted for medium I wear both too but medium more I s'pose
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XL!
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I am 5'8 1/2", 135 pounds. Smalls usually fit best.
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United States17042 Posts
smalls usually fit best for me as well - 5'7" and about 120 >.>
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On December 04 2008 04:01 semioldguy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2008 03:02 LonelyMargarita wrote: And adding on to my post: American smalls are 36", whereas Korean mediums are usually 38-39". With a 38.5" chest, I look really funny in American smalls, but Korean mediums will form very close to my body, and taper as well.
Basically, I think you need two polls, one for American sizes, and one for Korean. Specify the measurements as well: American - 36", 40", 44", 48" (s, m, l, xl), Korean - 38", 40", 42.5" (m, l, xl). I think you are one of the only people that is so in depth with this. I don't disagree with you... I'm actually more on your way of looking at the shirts, but most guys I know and most on this website probably don't know or care to know enough to make as calculated of a decision as you or I on this poll. :p
I'm just trying to point out that this is why the sizes sold out in the manner they did: using an American sized poll and trying to relate it to Korean sizes. In the poll, if someone votes for "extra large," you know they're getting a Korean xl. People voting "small" will get Korean mediums. Other than that, you can't tell though. People voting American "Medium" could have 38" chests (too big for Am Sm) and want a Korean medium, they could have 40" chests and want a Korean large (same size), or could want an XL because it's only 2 inches more slack, whereas an American large is 4 inches more (too much for some people). Similarly, people who vote large could want a Korean large, simple because Korean shirts are designed to fit close to your form and American shirts are not. So in this poll right now, we can't tell what 71% of the people would order for a Korean shirt.
You don't have to put measurements, but I would think 2 simple polls would help a great deal: "What American size TeamLiquid shirt would you order" and "What Korean size Proteam shirt would you order." You can specify that Korean M = S-M, Korean L = M, and Korean XL = M-L without worrying about dimensions if you want. I just feel the 1 poll is what caused the problems in the first place.
+ Show Spoiler +...or it could be that MBC fans are either scrawny or fat, but never in the middle.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On December 04 2008 02:23 LonelyMargarita wrote: This really depends. I wear a medium for American sizes, but a medium (American small - ~100cm) for most Korean sizes. American and Korean shirts fit differently, and Korean shirts need to be very close to your actual chest measurement to fit properly. American shirts are made to be baggy.
This is why I polled and bought mediums for the TL shirts, and a medium (Am s) for the MBC shirt. Do I vote "small" since you are talking about Korean shirts? Edit: nm you say "teamliquid or progaming." So ya, it depends which you mean. -.- Am I an idiot or did you just say you wear medium korean and medium american?
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On December 04 2008 04:48 Ideas wrote: holy shit so many smalls and mediums..... TL IS SMALL O.o
We should have a more detailed poll about people's size/weight, then make a "What percentage of TeamLiquid could you beat up" calculator.
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lol sorry, I voted (LRG) before I read the thread. I don't plan on buying a shirt
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On December 04 2008 06:27 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2008 02:23 LonelyMargarita wrote: This really depends. I wear a medium for American sizes, but a medium (American small - ~100cm) for most Korean sizes. American and Korean shirts fit differently, and Korean shirts need to be very close to your actual chest measurement to fit properly. American shirts are made to be baggy.
This is why I polled and bought mediums for the TL shirts, and a medium (Am s) for the MBC shirt. Do I vote "small" since you are talking about Korean shirts? Edit: nm you say "teamliquid or progaming." So ya, it depends which you mean. -.- Am I an idiot or did you just say you wear medium korean and medium american?
Yes. One thing confusing people is that they are NOT just 1 size different, even in chest measurement. Korean shirts differ by about 2 inches per size, while American sizes differ by 4 inches per size. American sleeves are shorter and looser for the most part as well. Korean shirts taper, and look better on decently built guys, but need to be looser if your chest isn't bigger than your waist. There are a few reasons other people would order the same way as me (hence the sellouts):
1) 38" chest fits Korean medium but is too big for an American small -> Med/Med (Amer/Kor) 2) Most American sizes are made to be a little baggy, and look funny if the chest is fitted but the sleeves are loose. So 36" chest would look funny in American small -> Med/Med. 3) I had a third example but I forgot it...
Someone with a 40" chest would probably get Med/Large, and someone with a 36" chest could instead get Sm/Med if his chest is close to his waist measurement. Skinny guys with a 38" chest would probably get Med/Large. That's my whole point with needing 2 polls.
EDIT: What may have confused you in my post is that I put "Korean Medium (Amer Sm)" in it. I was just quoting the way they had the MBC shirts listed in the store, even though they do not measure the same dimensions. Sorry.
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