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The First Law books. G.R.R. Martin fans rejoice! - Page 2

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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
October 28 2008 01:30 GMT
#21
I am about a week from exhausting my current book collection at school, so I will definitely pick this up next time I'm at a store.

I would like to read the thread, but I was warned that there are people spoiling books in it, so whoever that is, big ol' middle finger from the walrus.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
October 28 2008 03:56 GMT
#22
On October 28 2008 06:20 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2008 06:10 Zelniq wrote:
On October 27 2008 17:46 defenestrate wrote:
Zelniq: what other fantasy comes close to Martin's quality, in your opinion?

I haven't found any others besides this series, but I heard there are a couple that are sort of similar. Perhaps someone else will enlighten us.

Steven Erikson's Tales of the Malazan Empire is as good, if not better than A Song of Ice and Fire. However, these two authors write in a COMPLETELY different style so it's really up to your own opinion.

hm, this series sounds interesting. reviews tell me that indeed the writing style is quite different. i will check it out next time im at the bookstore, thanks
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-28 04:04:34
October 28 2008 04:03 GMT
#23
Now that's how you recommend a book. If you said these books were great, I may not go out and buy them. But to say they are at least on par with, or better than a Martin masterpiece. Well then. Now I'm too fucking curious not to buy them.
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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
October 28 2008 04:31 GMT
#24
Well I just recently finished a series and am now in need of one... so I'll take your word on this.
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-28 05:12:39
October 28 2008 05:08 GMT
#25
I'll give the first one a try. As for other fantasy.. .. hum.. try *The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, the Unbeliever

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Covenant

The main character is Thomas Covenant, a cynical writer afflicted with leprosy, shunned and despised by society, who is destined to become the heroic saviour of an alternate world - or, perhaps, only of his own sanity. - it just had an unusual appeal for the likes of Entropy...
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-28 05:20:35
October 28 2008 05:19 GMT
#26
After I hype something up like crazy to people, I normally tell them not to try to not have too high expectations, as it lessens the experience. For this, I'm not sure I really need to!

Haha, but seriously yeah don't go in with crazy expectations and try not to make too many comparisons with ASOIAF, it's still different of course in many ways, and stands on its own as a masterpiece.

I'm glad you guys are going to check it out. Testie and DC, you won't regret it!
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defenestrate
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States579 Posts
October 28 2008 08:10 GMT
#27
Bought it, ninety pages in. It feels like a more verbose version of Glen Cook so far.
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Fatmatt2000
Profile Joined January 2006
United States159 Posts
October 28 2008 08:38 GMT
#28
On October 28 2008 17:10 defenestrate wrote:
Bought it, ninety pages in. It feels like a more verbose version of Glen Cook so far.

Theres nothing really wrong with that however.
Quote?
defenestrate
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States579 Posts
November 01 2008 03:36 GMT
#29
Finished. It is well worth the fifteen bucks, but the comparisons with GRRM are unwarranted.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
November 01 2008 03:52 GMT
#30
Tell me, where do whores go?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
November 01 2008 04:34 GMT
#31
Wheel of Time is fucking boring yes?
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-01 04:54:10
November 01 2008 04:53 GMT
#32
Eh, was also disappointed by being mislead by G.R.R. Martin's name, but I'm always glad to hear a book recommendation so I'll go pick this up whenever I can

On November 01 2008 13:34 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
Wheel of Time is fucking boring yes?
Isn't that the series that lasts 20 books, but the author died before finishing the last one?
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-01 08:53:31
November 01 2008 08:52 GMT
#33
On November 01 2008 13:53 Falcynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2008 13:34 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
Wheel of Time is fucking boring yes?
Isn't that the series that lasts 20 books, but the author died before finishing the last one?


Yeah, Robert Jordan died last year but left a lot of notes about how he wanted the story to end. Brandon Sanderson is currently writing the last book in his place.

I've actually just been reading Sanderson's final Mistborn book, which came out a few weeks ago. That's a series I strongly recommend to anyone looking for non-standard fantasy. The hook is "What happens if the prophesized hero fails to save the world?" The story begins 1000 years later.

I read the first Malazan book and didn't really get into it. I've heard the later books are better, but I generally won't continue with a series if I don't like the first one. The first book didn't do a good job of telling a cohesive story - it dropped the reader into the middle of things, and the sequels occur both before and after those events. Too confusing for me.

I read the first trilogy of the Thomas Covenant books and hated them (bought all three of them together). Thomas Covenant is just too unlikable as a character, the supporting cast is just trash, and the plot is flimsy.

Amazon's been recommending The First Law series to me for awhile so I may check it out next. I have to find something to read while GRRM writes his one book every 5 years. Funny thing is that Amazon always recommends the second and third books, never the first one.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Brad~
Profile Joined May 2005
United States63 Posts
November 01 2008 10:32 GMT
#34
Whilst GRRM may be gritty, dark, and complex, I find his style neither refreshing nor fluent.

I will have a read, so let's hope Joe Abercrombie is better...
Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
November 01 2008 10:50 GMT
#35
On October 27 2008 17:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Sir

You tricked me.

I came to this thread when I saw George R.R Martin but in fact I find that you are simply claiming some guy is as good as Mr. Martin.

Please do not continue with your blasphemus ways.


agreed
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
November 01 2008 12:27 GMT
#36
On October 28 2008 10:27 Nebula wrote:
Whilst not so epic in scale, I'd suggest Robin Hobbs Farseer Trilogy

Assassin's Apprentice
Royal Assassin
Assassin's Quest

Her talent in writing is unsurpassed imo and this is coming from someone who destroyed through all of Martins novels and short stories.

Hope at least one person gives them a go because they really are amazing.

Edit: Thanks to OP, I've finished reading everything i own atm, so I'll give these a go~


Yes the farseer trilo is quite good. I especially loved the first volume. The fool trilo(forgot the real name of it) is ok too, but not the same level as the farseer trilo. On the other hand I did't like the liveship trilo and stopped it somewhere in book 1 or 2.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 01 2008 12:56 GMT
#37
On November 01 2008 17:52 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2008 13:53 Falcynn wrote:
On November 01 2008 13:34 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
Wheel of Time is fucking boring yes?
Isn't that the series that lasts 20 books, but the author died before finishing the last one?
The first book didn't do a good job of telling a cohesive story - it dropped the reader into the middle of things, and the sequels occur both before and after those events. Too confusing for me.


Yeah, nobody is able to follow those damn Star Wars movies either.
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Quint
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
467 Posts
November 01 2008 13:09 GMT
#38
I loved the Farseer books. Fitz is imo one of the most believable characters ever created in the fantasy genre. Assassins are generally described as cold killingmachines with no social skills at all, yet Fitz has to rely on his wits and cunningness (and fails sometimes nevertheless) to achieve his goals. I will never forget the chapter in book 2 where Fitz infiltrated Regals castle - extremely intense.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
November 01 2008 13:13 GMT
#39
The last person to recommend me a book on the basis of it being like ASOIAF was the Malazan Book of the Fallen series or whatever it was called. It was bad. I'm still trying to plug away at book 3 I think it is, but the character design is just so masturbatory everyone is some world ending anime half god character. It's absurd
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 01 2008 16:20 GMT
#40
thank god that's about as opposite from this book as possible for fantasy characters
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