Just discuss anything about this tragic event.
And even though tl.net hates fox, I'm sure this clip is real.
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
Just discuss anything about this tragic event. And even though tl.net hates fox, I'm sure this clip is real. | ||
SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
the videos of the news reports coming in throughout the day are pretty awful. there was a cbs report a few days/weeks later with uninterrupted videotape of someone who was down there that day and id like to watch that again one day if anyone knows of it. | ||
renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
The first plane hit at ~8:45 AM Local time, which was 14:45 in Germany. My last class had ended at 14:30 and for a reason I don't remember I went to my room to sleep for an hour or two (must have been a long night or w/e) and when I woke up again I had an ICQ message flashing (only used ICQ at the time, no MSN, etc) from a friend of mine telling me about that 2 planes crashed into WTC. I didn't believe a word of it, but the news sites I checked told me it was true. I immediatly left for the TV room we had on our floor, where most of us were already gathered. Stayed there for basically the whole day. | ||
renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
I got picked up at school around 11:30 AM and my dad was really quiet, his eyes were looking at the horizon, he seemed to be with his mind really far away. Then after we were already on the car on the way home he said to me "Son, some terrorists kidnapped a plane and bombed it against the WTC" i was like 12, so i asked, whats terrorists ?! and wtf is the WTC He spend the time until we got home talking about the american incursions on the middle east, and about the 6 day wars, and why those guys tough it was worth it to explode themselves to kill thousands of fellow human beings. I was scared, i was anxious, but nothing prepared me for seeing the second plane, and I remember exacly how i felt like. "there must be some kind of retaliation, this isnt fair, or right, its just crazy." | ||
tyr0
United States125 Posts
On September 12 2008 06:10 pubbanana wrote: I didn't like 9/11. I doubt anyone does. 5th grade, walking into school late with the TV on and showing the burning building. yup. sad day. god bless the families. | ||
il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
On September 12 2008 06:00 renegade_zerg wrote: screw all the media clips, real or fake... truth is.. REAL people lost their lives that day, thousands of them. I'm sure there are many people even in the TeamLiquid community who has had a friend or family member lose their lives. Don't be ignorant. Ignorant of what? | ||
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11579 Posts
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renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
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wo0py
Netherlands922 Posts
I just hope there comes a time this is all history.. al these acts of terrorism and trying to solve it by fucking up an country that houses the people behind it. | ||
Spekkio
Canada59 Posts
On September 12 2008 06:00 renegade_zerg wrote: screw all the media clips, real or fake... truth is.. REAL people lost their lives that day, thousands of them. I'm sure there are many people even in the TeamLiquid community who has had a friend or family member lose their lives. Don't be ignorant. Thousands of people die everyday, you stupid asshole. Unless by "REAL people" you mean Americans, meaning no one else matters. | ||
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Canada19447 Posts
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
On September 12 2008 06:27 renegade_zerg wrote: People are so caught up in all the shrouds of scandals and the media surrounding 9/11, they seem to forget 2000 people lost their lives. By stating "Don't be ignorant," I simply meant lets not be insensitive to the nature of what happened. BTW, my statement was not targeted at you, OP. Oh yeah for sure, there are alot of documents and whatnot about how it was planned by the government of the U.S but people did lose lives. This also brings another thing up when I was talking about this with some friends, one guy said that millions of others died in the holocaust and in Africa from genocide, whats the difference between those and 9/11? Simply put, I think its because it happened in the U.S. | ||
Storchen
Sweden4385 Posts
It still amazes me that it really happened, in a bad way of course. I was at ground zero in january. You could really feel the sadness and grief amongst the americans.. Emotional. | ||
renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
i was at home, thinking how terrorists are evil. i was right about the terrorists, just accused the wrong people. | ||
Spekkio
Canada59 Posts
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On the note of 9/11 memorial, anyone at Columbia tonight for the forum for the two candidates? I recall they are coming after the Memorial. | ||
chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On September 12 2008 06:00 renegade_zerg wrote: screw all the media clips, real or fake... truth is.. REAL people lost their lives that day, thousands of them. I'm sure there are many people even in the TeamLiquid community who has had a friend or family member lose their lives. Don't be ignorant. ..are you talking to me? | ||
Spekkio
Canada59 Posts
On September 12 2008 06:45 renegade_zerg wrote: We're talking about the anniversary of the 9/11 event, you douchebag. No shit thousands of people die everyday. If we were talking about Darfur, Southeast Asia, or the tens of thousands of innocent civilians who died in the middle east due to war, It would be a different conversation. By real people, I meant its not something the media conjured up. So don't think you're being righteous with your statement. I still don't understand what you mean by "REAL people". In this last post of yours you were talking about Darfur, and other tragedies in the world, then you comment about what the media have conjured up. Although it does sound like you mean that all other major conflicts in the world are just made up by the media, I doubt that's what you mean. If I just take the line, "By real people, I meant its not something the media conjured up", I don't know what you mean. What does the media have to do with explaining what you think "REAL" people are? And I wasn't trying to be righteous with my statement. I was just trying to point out that the fact that thousands of people died on 9/11 wasn't such a major loss compared to every other day, when it comes down to hardship. | ||
ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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USA29055 Posts
We didn't think about it until like a week later and were like "WTF?" He had no explanation. | ||
Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
On September 12 2008 07:01 {88}iNcontroL wrote: my friend doodled a picture of a plane hitting a skyscraped the day before 9/11. We didn't think about it until like a week later and were like "WTF?" He had no explanation. Pretty crazy... | ||
renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
re·al- 3. being an actual thing; having objective existence; not imaginary: The events you will see in the film are real and not just made up. | ||
TheOvermind77
United States923 Posts
Hard to believe it was so long ago. | ||
aRod
United States758 Posts
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EGLzGaMeR
United States1867 Posts
what a sad sad memory | ||
renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
and that is not a fact, that's your opinion. How can you say 2000 deaths is not a major loss?? Your opiniated statement would be different if your mother was in that building. | ||
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BroOd
Austin10831 Posts
The second plane hit just after 9 and then everyone knew this wasn't some crazy accident. Quite a few students had parents who worked in the towers so people were starting to get frantic. They decided to close school at 11, or let anyone who could drive or get an earlier ride leave immediately. The first tower collapsed just before 10, and it was hard to tell looking from where we were exactly what was happening. It wasn't until they said on TV that the tower was collapsing that we knew what was going on. The clouds of smoke, dust and debris at this point were very thick and it was hard to make out what was what. The north tower dropped about 30 minutes later. It was the most surreal thing I've ever seen, and probably will be for a very long time. | ||
renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
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Spekkio
Canada59 Posts
On September 12 2008 07:07 renegade_zerg wrote: I was just trying to point out that the fact that thousands of people died on 9/11 wasn't such a major loss compared to every other day, when it comes down to hardship. and that is not a fact, that's your opinion. How can you say 2000 deaths is not a major loss?? Your opiniated statement would be different if your mother was in that building. Isn't most everything posted on a forum just an opinion? Wouldn't it be an opinion that it is a major hardship that thousands of people on 9/11 died? | ||
Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
On September 12 2008 07:04 renegade_zerg wrote: What's so hard to understand... F A K E / F R A D U L E N T stories made up by the media, when it fact.. it was still R E A L people that died. re·al- 3. being an actual thing; having objective existence; not imaginary: The events you will see in the film are real and not just made up. There's a quote button for a reason. I remember being in grade 10 Spanish class, when the principle came on the intercom and reported that the WTC had been hit by planes etc. No one thought much of it (none of us knew much about the WTC, let alone what it stood for) and went back to doing nothing in that class. It was only later, while me a few friends were walking around during lunch, that we realized what had happened when we saw a bunch of people in the school library watching CNN and the events earlier in the day. I came home that day and my mom was sitting on the couch watching CNN...I think I stayed there for at least 5 hours, before finally getting up to leave. | ||
CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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Spekkio
Canada59 Posts
On September 12 2008 07:22 CharlieMurphy wrote: These kinds of threads never accomplish anything. All discussion threads fit that description. These are just for fun, and if you don't have any discussion on the topic, don't comment. On focus: Does anyone actually believe that the US government was responsible for 9/11? That's just stupid. Edit: fixed spelling error. | ||
blabber
United States4448 Posts
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
On September 12 2008 07:25 Spekkio wrote: On focus: Does anyone actually believe that the US government was responsible for 9/11? That's just stupid. I do, but that's for another discussion in another thread, otherwise this thread truly will become another ban trap. Perhaps you should make that one too... | ||
SoleSteeler
Canada5427 Posts
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New Zealand6138 Posts
On September 12 2008 05:52 SonuvBob wrote: Ooh, another ban trap. Good luck TL! Not falling for it! I remember on the day I woke up and I could hear the tv on. I went out to the living room and the events had already happened, so I watched dumbfounded for about 10 minutes. By the time I got to school there was nobody on the playground or outside at all, and when I walked in we spent about an hour watching the news reports instead of working. Really surreal atmosphere. | ||
MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
Crappy day September 11 | ||
BlackJack
United States10501 Posts
On September 12 2008 07:06 aRod wrote: Fact, approximately 2000 more people die every year in the United States from food poisoning than have ever died from a terrorist attack since our nation’s inception. What’s the homeland security department’s budget again compared to the FDA’s? 50.5 billion for homeland security compared to 2.4 billion for the FDA. If the goal is to keep Americans alive, it seems American’s don’t have their priorities in line. Because the threat of some spoiled tuna fish is greater than the threat of a nuclear bomb going off in a large city ![]() | ||
OctoPuSs
Canada5279 Posts
On September 12 2008 05:54 Bosu wrote: There is a website with a collection of a bunch of different channels coverage of the events as they happened. It's pretty interesting seeing what people were thinking at different times on different stations. Nobody had a clue what was going on for a while. http://www.archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive | ||
ocoini
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
On September 12 2008 08:15 ocoini wrote: Look, I dident like what happend.. But What the fuck, look at the rest of the world, 9/11 is shit compared. Be careful this is FULL of Americans | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On September 12 2008 08:15 ocoini wrote: Look, I dident like what happend.. But What the fuck, look at the rest of the world, 9/11 is shit compared. What's your point, that this doesn't warrant a thread? 9/11 changed most of the world completely. Anyway I remember it so clearly, I was just some little kid playing counterstrike when suddenly everyone started talking about the wtc. | ||
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BroOd
Austin10831 Posts
On September 12 2008 08:04 OctoPuSs wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2008 05:54 Bosu wrote: There is a website with a collection of a bunch of different channels coverage of the events as they happened. It's pretty interesting seeing what people were thinking at different times on different stations. Nobody had a clue what was going on for a while. http://www.archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive My god, it's a real trip watching some of this stuff again. | ||
aRod
United States758 Posts
On September 12 2008 08:04 BlackJack wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2008 07:06 aRod wrote: Fact, approximately 2000 more people die every year in the United States from food poisoning than have ever died from a terrorist attack since our nation’s inception. What’s the homeland security department’s budget again compared to the FDA’s? 50.5 billion for homeland security compared to 2.4 billion for the FDA. If the goal is to keep Americans alive, it seems American’s don’t have their priorities in line. Because the threat of some spoiled tuna fish is greater than the threat of a nuclear bomb going off in a large city ![]() You don't seem to understand how well governments control their nuclear weapons. Edit* or the consequences that government would face if a weapon was leaked. ![]() | ||
DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On September 12 2008 08:26 Frits wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2008 08:15 ocoini wrote: Look, I dident like what happend.. But What the fuck, look at the rest of the world, 9/11 is shit compared. What's your point, that this doesn't warrant a thread? 9/11 changed most of the world completely. Anyway I remember it so clearly, I was just some little kid playing counterstrike when suddenly everyone started talking about the wtc. Hope you were playing as counter-terrorists :/ | ||
Pressure
7326 Posts
I was coming in from school and I was still taking off my shoes when I saw my dad already in the house watching TV, and I knew something was up. (My dad usually works that day until like 7 so yeah) My mom asked my dad what was up and my dad said that a building was burning and that he had to walk from work (SoHo) back to our home in Queens. I looked at the TV and saw the buildings burning, but I didn't really feel any emotion. (I was in the 3rd grade)It was just like another terrorist attack that was on the news everyday, but it was years later when I finally knew what went on.. ![]() RIP | ||
draeger
United States3256 Posts
Spent the 10:30 class watching tv on the projector for like 30 minutes before he let us all go. Fucking math prof still had class at 12:30pm. What a heartless motherfucker. | ||
CFDragon
United States304 Posts
On September 12 2008 08:24 MeriaDoKk wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2008 08:15 ocoini wrote: Look, I dident like what happend.. But What the fuck, look at the rest of the world, 9/11 is shit compared. Be careful this is FULL of Americans I'm from America, and I can agree with his statement. 9/11 was a horrible event, but look at simple statistics. Heart disease causes the same amount of deaths as 9/11 every 36 hours. | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32056 Posts
It wasn't until my 5th period gym class that you saw how fucked the whole situation was. I'm in Jersey, about a stone's throw away from NYC (actually going there tonight for a friend's bday. He's Arabic and born on 9/11. Talk about shit luck) and we're outside and you can see the skyline just covered in thick, black smoke. People are crying, calling relatives to see that they're ok (I think my city had a total of 8 people die in it, very lucky, considering we have a very large population that works in the city) The worst was after school got out. I live near two ghettos that have a large Arabic population. My neighbor at work owns a Arabic nuts store and he got his window smashed, death threats, etc. There was rumors of arabs cheering in the streets there and there gang fights, white, black, spanish vs arabs. Chaos. Really never seen anything like that day, and hopefully, never will again. | ||
VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
That's what we should be mourning for.. | ||
mahnini
United States6862 Posts
Anyway, I was in 8th grade at the time and I was listening to the radio while being driven to school and I heard them talking about it, I didn't really know what to think till I got to my first class and saw the news on TV. We spent the whole time talking/watching news about it, honestly, I felt the event was distant for me because I didn't know anyone affected by it. | ||
dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
and since i m not american and didnt know anyone that could have possibly have been there, ya the whole event felt pretty distant to me too. besides, 2 buildings fell apart... that doesnt sound like a big deal to me. imo, having 2 fewer buildings and 3k few ppl on this planet happens every year. imo, rather than invading some middle east country, all those man power and money could have been better spent else where. besides, by virtue of getting into this war on terror, theres been more americans killed, and many more to die, after 9/11 than those died on 9/11. i think the american gov has inflicted more damage on america than bin laden did. | ||
Bash
Finland1533 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On September 12 2008 16:15 mahnini wrote: Yea I mean, we just killed a couple of million people... can't you guys just forget about it??? Jeez..Honestly, of all the retarded threads we had about 9/11, you'd think people could just shutup about their retarded anti-americaness for ONE thread. | ||
TheTyranid
Russian Federation4333 Posts
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wtfhi2u
United States65 Posts
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tyr0
United States125 Posts
On September 15 2008 10:44 wtfhi2u wrote: Show nested quote + World Trade Center 7 housed SEC files relating to numerous Wall Street investigations, as well as other federal investigative files. All the files for approximately 3,000 to 4,000 SEC cases were destroyed. While some were backed up in other places, others were not, especially those classified as confidential.[48] Files relating Citigroup to the WorldCom scandal were lost.[49] The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission estimates over 10,000 cases will be affected.[50] The Secret Service had its largest field office, with more than 200 employees, in WTC 7 and also lost investigative files. Says one agent: “All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building.”[51] Osama was like Santa Claus to some people. Ouch. Have you seen 9-11 loose change? I'm sort of indifferent about this subject. However, that video just gave me goose bumps. | ||
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11579 Posts
i get home, and find out my dad was evacuated from his office, where he could literally see the smoke from the pentagon where he was, and they asked me if I heard what had happened. turns out the next day, my neighbor who was a friend of mine at the time, his mom died at the pentagon, and his parents were divorced, and he had no idea what happened because the school told him there were lightning storms, and he didn't turn on the t.v. didn't find out what happened to his mom until the next day. | ||
1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
Before you jump bandwagon at me, read this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods You have to understand that US is a nation that has to have war one way or another to survive. USA has long history of fabricating evidences and manufacturing misleading events in order to justify the war. Just look at how bush attacked Iraq with WMD and Hussein- Laden connection which later are proved fradulent. Lately bush administration got busted for falsely linking death of US soldiers to weapons supplied by Iranian government. Sadly it won't be long until Iran gets attacked by US. I think US is behind a lot of the events that are perceived as terrorist activities by rest of the world. It's very co-incidental how and when these events take place, for example when Germany openly opposed the idea of war against Iraq, there is hostage taking in German embassy in Iraq which sways the minds of the German public. There was a fair amount of conspiracy theories that the US was behind the event. When there was a massive anti-war demonstration that took place in France, soon after French oil tanker that was stationed in Port Yemen gets bombed supposedly by Al Queda. When there was a strong anti war sentiment among Australian public, BOOM! there goes Bali bombing where 50% of the death consists of Aussie clubbers. How fucking convenient? I won't go into the Bali bombing conspiracy at this point but do your research and draw individual conclusion about the event. and there's 9/11... which US comfortably concludes soon after that Bin Laden is behind the attack and launches attack on Afganistan for it. + Show Spoiler + Watch from part 1 ~9. Even BBC recently did a docu on the subject questioning the official statement released by the government surrounding 9/11. Japanaese Councilor questioned the 911 at the House of Councillors in the national paliament for good 30 minutes and attacks government support for war + Show Spoiler + It's also ironic that the terrorist activities are usually practiced by very organisations that the US government has been funding and supporting both directly and indirectly. All these bullshit terrorist propaganda and axis of evil campaign is comical to me. It's also very evident that the US is not capable of serving as a arbitratior of world conflicts as they're the one fuelling and encouraging the chaos for national benefit. I don't blame them though, had it been Russia or China as world dominant power, it wouldn't have been much different. Poll: 9/11. Act of terror or an inside job by US? (Vote): Act of terrorism (Vote): Inside job by US (Vote): I am confused | ||
SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
On September 12 2008 09:16 CFDragon wrote: Show nested quote + On September 12 2008 08:24 MeriaDoKk wrote: On September 12 2008 08:15 ocoini wrote: Look, I dident like what happend.. But What the fuck, look at the rest of the world, 9/11 is shit compared. Be careful this is FULL of Americans I'm from America, and I can agree with his statement. 9/11 was a horrible event, but look at simple statistics. Heart disease causes the same amount of deaths as 9/11 every 36 hours. You sir are fucking retarded. What fucking relation does terrorism and heart disease have? A better comparison would be how many people die in Darfur or how many battles happen on the Gaza Strip every day. Seriously fucking heart disease? 9/11 is just like Pearl Harbor, we were fucking attacked and it was really sad to see people jumping from 100 story windows do you understand why this was sad now? Do you understand why this means shit to people? Pearl harbor was over 60 years ago and we still mourn those that died that day, so if you dont care about it thats fine but making it seem like it was just another day in the life is really fucking insulting, go home you uncouth fuck face. | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32056 Posts
On September 16 2008 02:14 1tym wrote: Seriously guys, the more facts surrounding the event are being revealed, more pointers indicate that the 9/11 was in fact an inside job from the US/CIA. Squips from the building, free falling, controlled demolition, claims of bombs heard in the building, slaps of the building structure, incomprehensible building 7 demolition collapse, Plane route to Pentagon, insurance taken out for world trade centre, etc. Before you jump bandwagon at me, read this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods You have to understand that US is a nation that has to have war one way or another to survive. USA has long history of fabricating evidences and manufacturing misleading events in order to justify the war. Just look at how bush attacked Iraq with WMD and Sadam- Laden connection which later are proved fradulent. Lately bush administration got busted for falsely linking death of US soldiers to weapons supplied by Iranian government. Sadly it won't be long until Iran gets attacked by US. I think US is behind a lot of the events that are perceived as terrorist activities by rest of the world. It's very co-incidental how and when these events take place, for example when Germany openly opposed the idea of war against Iraq, there is hostage taking in German embassy in Iraq which sways the minds of the German public. There was a fair amount of conspiracy theories that the US was behind the event. When there was a massive anti-war demonstration that took place in France, soon after French oil tanker that was stationed in Port Yemen gets bombed supposedly by Al Queda. When there was a strong anti war sentiment among Australian public, BOOM! there goes Bali bombing where 50% of the death consists of Aussie clubbers. How fucking convenient? I won't go into the Bali bombing conspiracy at this point but do your research and draw individual conclusion about the event. and there's 9/11... which US comfortably concludes soon after that Bin Laden is behind the attack and launches attack on Afganistan for it. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4RrnL1z1wY Watch from part 1 ~9. Even BBC recently did a docu on the subject questioning the official statement released by the government surrounding 9/11. Japanaese Councilor questioned the 911 at the House of Councillors in the national paliament for good 30 minutes and attacks government support for war + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOF_pXW84io It's also ironic that the terrorist activities are usually practiced by very organisations that the US government has been funding and supporting both directly and indirectly. All these bullshit terrorist propaganda and axis of evil campaign is comical to me. It's also very evident that the US is not capable of serving as a arbitratior of world conflicts as they're the one fuelling and encouraging the chaos for national benefit. I don't blame them though, had it been Russia or China as world dominant power, it wouldn't have been much different. Poll: 9/11. Act of terror or an inside job by US? (Vote): Act of terrorism (Vote): Inside job by US (Vote): I am confused Hey, way to revive a thread from last week by bringing in politics and whacky (and constantly disproved) conspiricy theories! Not to mention that it was specifically asked to go start your own thread for stupid bullshit like this! Fucking douchebags. | ||
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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
But that was because he had a stroke. ... wat a terrorist. | ||
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