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TrainRape
46 Posts
On June 30 2008 13:41 HeavOnEarth wrote: The term "Da Vinci sleep" is often used as a synonym for polyphasic sleep. . . . as for einstein i don't know really , i just read it somewhere Nice proof, Godel. | ||
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Funchucks
Canada2113 Posts
"I sleep 15 minutes every third hour. For a total of 2 hours per day." "It's okay. Yes i'm still polyphasic. I'm about to sleep now for 20 minutes" "During the weekend I actually get 5 or 6 hours sleep during the night" So is it 15 minutes, or 20 minutes? (that's a pretty big difference when you're taking 8 naps per day) Is it always only the planned amount of time? Is it only on weekends that he has long sleeps? Does he really only sleep 5 or 6 hours in those times, or does he crash for 10 or 12 hours? Nobody is watching him and recording it. This is apparently a bragging point for him, so he's probably exaggerating to some degree. He probably considers the times he oversleeps as a failure of discipline, and dismisses each occurrence as an isolated incident. It wouldn't surprise me if an impartial observer who could watch him continuously would find out that he averages over 4 hours of sleep per day, and that he himself would be shocked and disbelieving to hear it. ("Well, I knew I slipped up now and then, but I didn't think...") That is just the way self-reported data works. You can't trust it. | ||
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SIUnit
China288 Posts
On June 29 2008 06:47 HeavOnEarth wrote: Einstein and Da Vinci used the uberman sleep schedule i myself tried it for a week, before AP/SAT/FINALS cram for 11th grade it was alright... it was like i was really high but it catches up to you, i was out like a light for an entire day, not to mention i was fucked up in the head for about 2 weeks and i went though sleep paralysis and hallucinations ; common symptoms of sleep deprivation but it was worth it 3 on english (fuck you paper over pennies!?because we all care about if the penny should be removed or not!) and 4 APUSH and ~2100 on SAT although i bombed by calc final i still passed! woo~ ;edit; but after reading that blog, i only used it for 5 days and apprantly those first few days are the hardest.. ?( Either way . . . anyone under 18 shouldn't try this, GG ur IQ if you do) u know, but dire situations call for drastic measures I do that without even studying. You probably could've done better with your regular sleeping schedule. | ||
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Holylight
Korea (South)460 Posts
On July 01 2008 03:15 Funchucks wrote: Integra's story is a good example of something to be suspicious of. "I sleep 15 minutes every third hour. For a total of 2 hours per day." "It's okay. Yes i'm still polyphasic. I'm about to sleep now for 20 minutes" "During the weekend I actually get 5 or 6 hours sleep during the night" So is it 15 minutes, or 20 minutes? (that's a pretty big difference when you're taking 8 naps per day) Is it always only the planned amount of time? Is it only on weekends that he has long sleeps? Does he really only sleep 5 or 6 hours in those times, or does he crash for 10 or 12 hours? Nobody is watching him and recording it. This is apparently a bragging point for him, so he's probably exaggerating to some degree. He probably considers the times he oversleeps as a failure of discipline, and dismisses each occurrence as an isolated incident. It wouldn't surprise me if an impartial observer who could watch him continuously would find out that he averages over 4 hours of sleep per day, and that he himself would be shocked and disbelieving to hear it. ("Well, I knew I slipped up now and then, but I didn't think...") That is just the way self-reported data works. You can't trust it. word. exactly what i was thinking about the self-reported data and how people think of minor "failures" as isolated incidents and totally dismiss the fact that they ever happened sleeping for several hours on the weekend also makes this not that extreme, but i have trouble, BIG trouble believing anyone can hold the nap times for longer than a couple of weeks TOPS sounds like mental torture to me | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On July 01 2008 03:00 Holylight wrote: May I ask how old you are Integra and if you have a drivers license or a girlfriend (good relationship) Sure thing. I Live in Sweden. I'm 28 years old. No I don't have any Girlfriend at the moment but I have a few projects going if you know my drift  I have a drivers license And I'm gonna startat my fourth year in university, im currently doing My masters in Information system and IT Technologies. I also have an IQ of 141 or the top 0.5 percentage of the smartest people in the world. According to Swedish Mensa I'm particuarly adept in deductive reasoning and social skillsets.What exactly does this have to do with ubermansleep? I fail too see any connection.... And just in case, NO I'm not gay I'm straight so don't even ask about going out with me! | ||
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Holylight
Korea (South)460 Posts
i was interested in what type of person you are because i have a feeling that its mostly young people who try these schemes because they can and dont have too many responsibilities its all very interesting though although i dont think its healthy at all in the long run | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On July 01 2008 03:50 Holylight wrote: lol okay, just wondering because it soudned like you were quite young and didnt have to worry about much which would have made the uberman schedule easier...guess I was wrong i was interested in what type of person you are because i have a feeling that its mostly young people who try these schemes because they can and dont have too many responsibilities its all very interesting though although i dont think its healthy at all in the long run I actually agree with you on this. I look very young for my age. people think im like 20. so there is some truth to it  I certainly dont act like im 28. However I do have responsibilities. In order for me to graduate and get my Masters I have to do one year field research. so I'll do research while studying the next last year I have left. On top of that I will be a professor assistant during one of the courses for the second years at the university. so I do have responsibilities. the thing about uberman sleep is that it will give me the time to actually pull this off. I would never been able to do all that otherwise. | ||
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
i sat on my couch =today for only a few minutes, passed out, woke up hours later lol, shit! | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
After reading this I might try it out, seems like it could work for me and I am already strange enough as it is in other persons eyes so a little bit more would not hurt. Edit: By the way, were do you study in sweden, I study at RIOT. | ||
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Funchucks
Canada2113 Posts
I'd say it's unusual to eat only once per day, but not rare. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On July 01 2008 04:24 Klockan3 wrote: I actually believe in Integra, sure I do not uberman sleep but instead I only eat once per day and have no side effects from it at all. I do not even get hungry any longer, so its sure is possible to adapt your body to more effecient living patterns than 99.9% of the worlds population are using. After reading this I might try it out, seems like it could work for me and I am already strange enough as it is in other persons eyes so a little bit more would not hurt. Klockan, read my previous posts. Start out slow. dont go straight into it, slowly phase between normal sleep and ubermansleep and you should be able to pullit off wihtout too much problems. The reason why the majority of the people fail is that they think "all i need to do is to go in straight to the schedule and all I need to do it is to duke it out until I've adapted." It doesn't work you have to do a slow progress. if yuo odn't you will just crash. When i say crash I mean that you will over sleep or actually become fatigued for real and when that happends you will sleep sooner or later, either by your own will or by simply collapsing EDIT: I study at Linköpings universitet. going to start my forth year in systemvetenskap. | ||
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LuckyOne
266 Posts
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On July 01 2008 04:34 Funchucks wrote: Eating your full allotment of calories once per day and getting one third as much sleep as is considered the minimum healthy amount are pretty different. I'd say it's unusual to eat only once per day, but not rare. I have not met anyone who does that, and tbh I do not really understand why. The benefits are huge, your food expenses go down a ton since you can eat it all at home, you save a lot of time and its very convenient. I did not even try to get into a 1 meal per day pattern, it just grew on me naturally. Anyway, Integras talk about himself reminded me a lot about myself and his mind seems alert. And why would he lie about this really? Its not like he gains anything from it and if he lies he would lie fourth a better life than that. On July 01 2008 04:35 Integra wrote: Klockan, read my previous posts. Start out slow. dont go straight into it, slowly phase between normal sleep and ubermansleep and you should be able to pullit off wihtout too much problems. The reason why the majority of the people fail is that they think "all i need to do is to go in straight to the schedule and all I need to do it is to duke it out until I've adapted." It doesn't work you have to do a slow progress. if yuo odn't you will just crash. When i say crash I mean that you will over sleep or actually become fatigued for real and when that happends you will sleep sooner or later, either by your own will or by simply collapsing EDIT: I study at Linköpings universitet. going to start my forth year in systemvetenskap. I will probably go even slower though since I am not really fond of the side effects, but there is few who can supress their body needs more than I can so I should be able to get atleast into a semi uber. And I am very good at reading my body needs, thats why I do not get hungry etc, since I know that I do not need to eat anything(But you know what a pain it is when I forget about a meal one day?). If this actually works I should be able to get the same results but for sleep, and if I go slow enough I should be able to avoid the side effects. On July 01 2008 04:50 LuckyOne wrote: wait i dont get it , if you are so smart(top 0.5% of the world) why did you need more time to study in the first place? IQ do not meassure your learning abilities or much at all really, just how well you are at learning to think in the same patterns as most who makes the IQ tests. Also he mightve wanted time to do other things than just to study all day long? | ||
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Holylight
Korea (South)460 Posts
On July 01 2008 04:24 Klockan3 wrote: but instead I only eat once per day and have no side effects from it at all. I do not even get hungry any longer, so its sure is possible to adapt your body to more effecient living patterns than 99.9% of the worlds population are using. lol, I guess you dont work out i guess you eat alot that one time, but any normal person who is active and moves during the day would get very hungry after say 8 hours after eating, besides you arent feeding your body energy more than one time a day and your body doesnt ration it out during the day, only a certain amount of the nutrition and energy for some hours to come thing is, youll pretty much run out of energy like 6 hours later and my guess is that you would function better overall if you would eat again then. besides mood-swings and low blood-sugar might become an issue and i dont know many people who could pull this off without getting inhuman cravings for candy and shit a year ago i used to eat two times a day for a couple of months and it worked pretty well i guess, but its a pretty big difference from eating once a day also your body will have to work harder, your kidneys etc to digest and take care of all the food you eat once a day so i dont think its very healthy | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On July 01 2008 04:50 LuckyOne wrote: wait i dont get it , if you are so smart(top 0.5% of the world) why did you need more time to study in the first place? Only in the field of deductive reasoning and social skillsets. I'm average in other areas. like memory. deductive reasoning measures how fast you can understand abstract and complex things. Give me hard stuff that requires you to use or construct a logic structure, like math. I'll solve it very quickly. However I'm not as good as learning alot of simple things. like give me a dictionary of words and tell me to remember them. I won't do any better than someone with average memory. It will take time for me to rememeber all the words. Allot of the exams at uni is simply that. Allot of definitions, rules, descriptions and just text to remember that you have to recall during the exam and not so much complexity or high abstract thinking. My strong point is abstraction and finding smart solutions, not so much remembering stuff. When it comes to smartness it tends to be those who adapt to the situation and actually pull it off. the dumb ones are the ones that don't make it. I've found a smart solution thnx to this ubermansleep schedule and unlike 99% of the other people I actually was smart enough to pull it off. | ||
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Holylight
Korea (South)460 Posts
klockan; no one is saying he is lying | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On July 01 2008 05:05 Holylight wrote: lol, I guess you dont work out i guess you eat alot that one time, but any normal person who is active and moves during the day would get very hungry after say 8 hours after eating, besides you arent feeding your body energy more than one time a day and your body doesnt ration it out during the day, only a certain amount of the nutrition and energy for some hours to come thing is, youll pretty much run out of energy like 6 hours later and my guess is that you would function better overall if you would eat again then. besides mood-swings and low blood-sugar might become an issue and i dont know many people who could pull this off without getting inhuman cravings for candy and shit a year ago i used to eat two times a day for a couple of months and it worked pretty well i guess, but its a pretty big difference from eating once a day also your body will have to work harder, your kidneys etc to digest and take care of all the food you eat once a day so i dont think its very healthy I usually work out every day, 15-25 minutes and i put it just ahead of my meal, I also walk to my uni instead of taking the locals and its a 25 minutes walk. If what you say about the blood sugar were true I would not even get up on the mornings since i eat at the evening, and I learn better at the lectures than all of my peers since I do not have to study for my exams due to learning everything at the lectures. And im one of the most coolheaded persons there is, I have even argued quite a lot on the mbs threads against the standards of TL and I have not gotten banned once even :p | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On July 01 2008 05:08 Holylight wrote: um integra, youre not on a uberman sleeping schedule since you sleep longer on weekends, i think this makes quite a big difference. klockan; no one is saying he is lying I only started to sleep normally on weekends once the summer started since univeristy closes over the summer. If i have to pick boredom or lseep I choose sleep. | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On July 01 2008 05:13 Integra wrote: I only started to sleep normally on weekends once the summer started since univeristy closes over the summer. If i have to pick boredom or lseep I choose sleep. Yeah i feel exactly like that! When I'm bored I can sleep like 18 hours a day! On July 01 2008 05:08 Holylight wrote: klockan; no one is saying he is lying But you are seriously questioning who he is, how he is and all these kinds of stuff, and I say that to me it does not seem that improbable as some here might think it is. | ||
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Holylight
Korea (South)460 Posts
On July 01 2008 05:12 Klockan3 wrote: I usually work out every day, 15-25 minutes and i put it just ahead of my meal, I also walk to my uni instead of taking the locals and its a 25 minutes walk. If what you say about the blood sugar were true I would not even get up on the mornings since i eat at the evening, and I learn better at the lectures than all of my peers since I do not have to study for my exams due to learning everything at the lectures. And im one of the most coolheaded persons there is, I have even argued quite a lot on the mbs threads against the standards of TL and I have not gotten banned once even :p well i wasnt referring to doing some situps every day or whatever you squeeze into 20 minutes of workout? i was talking about workout that you actually benefit from like intense cardio or lifting weights. what i said about blood sugar is true, but i guess thats why you get up, because you eat at evenings. and i have no idea what your point was regarding learning at lectures since it didnt have anything to do with your eating habits or anything? "i learn more at lectures than other people, because i learn more at lectures" lol best argument ever | ||
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