Support your *own* country!

On June 20 2008 06:29 OctoPuSs wrote:
Hockey and Poutine and Eric Lapointe.

On June 20 2008 06:39 GTR-2-Go wrote:
knife.

On June 20 2008 06:42 Jyvblamo wrote:

Waiting for an Aussie to say...

On June 20 2008 06:43 UmmTheHobo wrote:
If it was not for the USA in world war 1 and world war 2 everyone would be getting butt raped by fascists.

On June 20 2008 07:00 Kwark wrote:

WW1 was over when you guys showed up. WW2 was won by the Soviet Union. 300,000 American losses? That's a lot. 20,000,000 Soviet losses? Slightly more.

On June 20 2008 07:02 Ancestral wrote:

You can't use numbers like that, that isn't the whole story. But yeah, Russia did a lot.

On June 20 2008 07:00 Kwark wrote:

WW1 was over when you guys showed up. WW2 was won by the Soviet Union. 300,000 American losses? That's a lot. 20,000,000 Soviet losses? Slightly more.

On June 20 2008 07:03 Jyvblamo wrote:

America turtled on island and tech to nukes. Also, some drop harass.

On June 20 2008 07:03 Jibba wrote:

Last time I checked the best way to win a war was not by having more of your soldiers die. We do give ourselves too much credit for WW1/WW2, but comparing numbers like that means nothing.

On June 20 2008 07:03 Jyvblamo wrote:

America turtled on island and tech to nukes. Also, some drop harass.

On June 20 2008 07:11 Kwark wrote:

Obviously not. But rather than go into a long discussion about the relative roles of countries in WWII I felt it simpler to just point out in terms of sacrifice and endurance the Soviet Union surpassed anything a Western country could do. I'm not denying that the USA had an important role (as did every country save France).

On June 20 2008 06:58 Jibba wrote:
There's plenty to bitch about, but we're always free to bitch about it.

On June 20 2008 07:03 Jibba wrote:

Last time I checked the best way to win a war was not by having more of your soldiers die. We do give ourselves too much credit for WW1/WW2, but comparing numbers like that means nothing.

On June 20 2008 06:43 UmmTheHobo wrote:
If it was not for the USA in world war 1 and world war 2 everyone would be getting butt raped by fascists.

On June 20 2008 07:54 Zuriez wrote:


such a stupid comment

On June 20 2008 07:57 Equinox_kr wrote:
We play Starcraft.

On June 20 2008 08:41 HamerD wrote:
EU is gona own USA if we end up with a euro language and shit xD

On June 20 2008 09:26 Pads wrote:
The UK has KwarK whish is preety much a thread winner.

On June 20 2008 07:35 Plutonium wrote:
France got their push outflanked by German goons and speedlots in WWII, and had to float a CC over to England so they wouldn't be eliminated. England then spent most of their money on turrets and bunkers becuase of the gosu Kraut muta micro.

The US and a few British unites then made a doom drop on the German expo's in France's main, and then the US teched to Carriers and Nukes on a few bases and then ran over the rest, primarily because they only suffering some early-game harass from the Japanese that didn't do any real damage to their eco.

Germany pulled an ally-mines on the Soviets, and so they massed tier 1 and didn't tech.

On June 20 2008 08:37 crabapple wrote:
USA has the constitution that protects individual freedoms and limits government power to the highest degree. no other country comes this close to protecting freedom and recognizing the government is not benevolence or wisdom, but force.

now if only we would stick to it.

On June 20 2008 09:33 kyjori wrote:
korea: lim yo hwan and seo ji soo.

On June 20 2008 08:50 Kwark wrote:

They did that. It's called English.

On June 20 2008 07:35 Plutonium wrote:
France got their push outflanked by German goons and speedlots in WWII, and had to float a CC over to England so they wouldn't be eliminated. England then spent most of their money on turrets and bunkers becuase of the gosu Kraut muta micro.

The US and a few British unites then made a doom drop on the German expo's in France's main, and then the US teched to Carriers and Nukes on a few bases and then ran over the rest, primarily because they only suffering some early-game harass from the Japanese that didn't do any real damage to their eco.

Germany pulled an ally-mines on the Soviets, and so they massed tier 1 and didn't tech.

On June 20 2008 09:30 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
(English).

On June 20 2008 06:23 NonY[rC] wrote:
best bw players outside of korea

On June 20 2008 15:04 Fr33t wrote:
edited

On June 20 2008 14:40 Pwntrucci[sR] wrote:
I'm surprised none of the Australians mentionned that they have a sick pink floyd tribute band. That's way better then that other utensil crap.

On June 20 2008 15:14 Fr33t wrote:
Psh, American music > all

On June 20 2008 15:29 Fr33t wrote:
Liberals taking every shot they can get...

I've got to give it to the brasil guys though, you've got it good! lol

On June 20 2008 15:25 MyLostTemple wrote:
no! fuck bush

On June 20 2008 15:32 tec27 wrote:

You don't have to be a liberal to hate Bush. For instance, I hate Bush.

Since this thread demands I support my country, I'll reach deep down inside and find something thats actually good about this country, hmm... Alright, this country has a wide variety landscapes, thats pretty cool.

On June 20 2008 15:36 nepeta wrote:
Most beautiful girl in the world.

And the most beautiful clouds of all:

On June 20 2008 15:37 ez(styles) wrote:


and i believe that most of us would agree you are extremely ignorant.

On June 20 2008 16:34 BluzMan wrote:
Russia:

Not Safe.
Not Fair.
Not Prospering.

Not Boring.

On June 20 2008 15:34 ez(styles) wrote:


if your being serious. fail. that is all.

On June 20 2008 06:30 50CaL.AngeL wrote:
Our weed>USA gg?
YEAH I SAID IT.

On June 20 2008 18:45 Cambium wrote:
and a ton of snow in winter...

On June 20 2008 19:11 Scorch wrote:
AUSTRIA

good quality of living
low criminality
high education
relatively good social and health care system
neutrality
high employment rate
history and culture
no nuclear power, much water and wind power
mountains
diversified climate with real winter and summer
no dangerous or poisonous animals
no volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis or hurricanes
relatively good legal system
low importance of religion
relatively high tolerance
cheap mobile telephony
beer
world-class desserts
relatively good political system
peace and stability

On June 20 2008 19:11 Scorch wrote:
AUSTRIA

good quality of living
low criminality
high education
relatively good social and health care system
neutrality
high employment rate
history and culture
no nuclear power, much water and wind power
mountains
diversified climate with real winter and summer
no dangerous or poisonous animals
no volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis or hurricanes
relatively good legal system
low importance of religion
relatively high tolerance
cheap mobile telephony
beer
world-class desserts
relatively good political system
peace and stability

On June 20 2008 15:37 ez(styles) wrote:


and i believe that most of us would agree you are extremely ignorant.

On June 20 2008 21:32 V6 wrote:
we whine at home but shuts the fuck up when it counts

On June 20 2008 07:11 Kwark wrote:

Obviously not. But rather than go into a long discussion about the relative roles of countries in WWII I felt it simpler to just point out in terms of sacrifice and endurance the Soviet Union surpassed anything a Western country could do. I'm not denying that the USA had an important role (as did every country save France).

On June 20 2008 21:44 JohnnyCash wrote:


You had your heroes (RAF), we had ours (the resistance). We had our dumbasses/cowards (Petain), you had yours (Chamberlain?? his whole handling of the Munich agreement, etc. Deciding not to attack when 9/10 of the German army was in Poland).
Dunkerk was as much a defeat for the English forces as for the French. If you wanna talk about courage, why not talk about WWI?
Why say "every country but France"? Do you know anything about WWII? Don't you know that France wasn't the only country invaded? Why don't you talk about...China? Why don't you talk about Italy's role?
Your sentence is quite disrepectful towards all French people who fought in the Resistance, probably one of the most courageous acts I can think about. Americans were brave to come to Europe etc. but even that, being sent by your home country to help another one, cannot compare to freely choosing of resisting in a climate of intense fear, when you know other resistants around you have been tortured to death. Same for Russian people, their only choice was between two guns. Anyway.

On June 20 2008 22:26 Liquid`Drone wrote:
its certainly laughable when americans seem to think that "they saved europe", but thinking germany would have been defeated without american help is equally stupid.

On June 20 2008 23:00 Liquid`Drone wrote:
you're free to do things that would get you shot in some dictatorships and third world countries.. that's nothing to be proud of. :p

On June 20 2008 23:14 Liquid`Drone wrote:
can you name one thing that gets you shot in any western country that you are allowed to do in usa?

On June 20 2008 09:09 Chuiu wrote:
Yeah English is the most widely known language around the world (not natively, of course, China wins that one).

On June 20 2008 22:35 Masamune wrote:

I have a lot of respect for France, military wise, but not because of their resistance in WW2. Any person from any nation will resist occupation. Look at terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan. Are they not resisting allied forces in their own countries?

Forget WW2, even WW1. If you want to talk about France's military might, talk about Napoleon Bonaparte. Talk about the fact that the last nation to invade Britain, something not even Germany could do, was France in the 11th century, but for god's sake do not mention France and WW2 in the same sentence.

On June 20 2008 23:18 Jibba wrote:

Believe the Holocaust never happened. D:

On June 20 2008 23:27 himurakenshin wrote:


I don't think that is really true. Most Chinese people can't understand each other natively, because there are so many major dialects like Mandarin Cantonese Hakka Shangainese and then there are even Mandarin Dialects. For example Mandarin is a completely different language to Cantonese (some people will argue otherwise) but it's being branded as a dialect so that the country can say that the whole country has 1 language. They are really different languages.

On June 20 2008 23:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:
that doesnt get you shot. :p

we do in europe have some dormant anti-racism laws though (in norway, there has only been one case ever of someone being charged with it though, that is when this political party named "white election-alliance" had "forced sterilization of every non-western adopted person" as part of their political program. )

but if you think you're free to say anything everywhere in usa you're pretty wrong.. usa does not have less government censorship than western european countries because there is essentially none here either. seriously, that one incident is the only incident where "free speech" was stopped in the past 20 years, it's not like you can freely go around screaming "i have a bomb im going to kill the american president" in usa either.

On June 20 2008 23:36 Jibba wrote:

You're mixing Norway and the rest of Europe.

On June 20 2008 23:42 jello_biafra wrote:

You're mixing Western Europe and the rest of Europe.

On June 20 2008 22:26 Liquid`Drone wrote:
its certainly laughable when americans seem to think that "they saved europe", but thinking germany would have been defeated without american help is equally stupid.

On June 20 2008 23:27 himurakenshin wrote:


I don't think that is really true. Most Chinese people can't understand each other natively, because there are so many major dialects like Mandarin Cantonese Hakka Shangainese and then there are even Mandarin Dialects. For example Mandarin is a completely different language to Cantonese (some people will argue otherwise) but it's being branded as a dialect so that the country can say that the whole country has 1 language. They are really different languages.

On June 20 2008 23:44 Jibba wrote:

Germany, France and Switzerland are which part then?

On June 20 2008 23:46 Liquid`Drone wrote:
there are 12 european countries with laws against public holocaust denial, out of roughly 50. several of these countries have a history that makes this law extremely sensible (e.g, germany, austria, poland) and either way it's hardly ever enforced anywhere. if a professor preaches holocaust denial he deserves to lose his job anyway because you cannot be a teacher if you lack that kind of basic knowledge.

On June 20 2008 23:49 Liquid`Drone wrote:
are you seriously asking me if I am?

my point is that when any american claims that "we saved europe against the facists" that is a claim that could be made with the same force and truth to it as when any non german, spanish, italian, swiss or swedish european person makes the same claim. it was a team effort, usa only joined in after they had been attacked by japan and joined in to protect their own interests, not because they had a noble cause to defend europe against the nazis. usas contribution was of course great, and necessary to win the war, but to make the claim that "we saved europe" is to downplay the effort made by all other european countries that fought against nazi germany, especially great britain and russia, both whom sacrificed far, far more than usa did. (hell, usa was essentially the only country in the world to benefit from world war 2.. )

On June 20 2008 07:19 aseq wrote:
Flattest country in the world,

best drug laws and prostitution laws.

Prime minister looks most like Harry Potter.

On June 20 2008 23:00 Liquid`Drone wrote:
you're free to do things that would get you shot in some dictatorships and third world countries.. that's nothing to be proud of. :p

On June 20 2008 22:35 Masamune wrote:

Forget WW2, even WW1. If you want to talk about France's military might, talk about Napoleon Bonaparte. Talk about the fact that the last nation to invade Britain, something not even Germany could do, was France in the 11th century, but for god's sake do not mention France and WW2 in the same sentence.

On June 21 2008 00:32 Liquid`Drone wrote:
isnt litmanen like the only great finnish athlete ever who has never been caught using drugs?
cept for skijumping i guess.

On June 21 2008 00:34 Boblion wrote:


More French people died than English people or American people.
According to wiki 217,600 French soldiers died.
Oh and dont forget that 1,400,000 soldiers + 300,000 civilians died 20 years before and that France had a really bad demography + over 4,000,000 wounded from WW1

Yea France got raped but people bashing France are stupid. Why they dont blame China, South Korea or Poland for being raped too ?

On June 21 2008 00:42 fusionsdf wrote:

you ever see the video clip of the polish cavalry (i.e. horses) charging at tanks?

its sad

On June 20 2008 23:49 Liquid`Drone wrote:
are you seriously asking me if I am?

my point is that when any american claims that "we saved europe from the facists" that is a claim that could be made with the same force and truth to it as when any non german, spanish, italian, swiss or swedish european person makes the same claim. it was a team effort, usa only joined in after they had been attacked by japan and joined in to protect their own interests, not because they had a noble cause to defend europe against the nazis. usas contribution was of course great, and necessary to win the war, but to make the claim that "we saved europe" is to downplay the effort made by all other european countries that fought against nazi germany, especially great britain and russia, both whom sacrificed far, far more than usa did. (hell, usa was essentially the only country in the world to benefit from world war 2.. )

On June 21 2008 00:48 Boblion wrote:


Yea i know.

On June 21 2008 01:49 evandi wrote:
Its probably really lame of me to register just to respond to this. But in order to defend my countries role in WWI and WWII...

In WWI we tipped the scales, we got there after Russia had left the war and Germany was only fighting on one front. We drafted a 4 million man army to break a stalemate. We were necessary for the Victory in WWI.

In WW2 we greatly assisted the allies with the lend-lease act in order to supply Russia and Britain with equipment they needed. We kept Britain in the war by also making sure that the Islands could bring in supplies. And all of you guys seem to be ignoring Japan. We singlehandedly defeated Japan because Russia had a non-aggression treaty with them until 1945. Russia did absolutely nothing to help us with Japan. Russia also tried to have a non-aggression treaty with Germany, but was betrayed.

Russia did the most on the Western front, but we helped fund their war effort. We singlehandedly handled the Eastern front.

It is not just now that USA has the largest economy in the world. We had the largest economy then as well.

But I don't think everyone has to bow down to us until the end of time because of how necessary it was for us to join the war.

On June 21 2008 01:49 evandi wrote:
Its probably really lame of me to register just to respond to this. But in order to defend my countries role in WWI and WWII...

In WWI we tipped the scales, we got there after Russia had left the war and Germany was only fighting on one front. We drafted a 4 million man army to break a stalemate. We were necessary for the Victory in WWI.

Its probably really lame of me to register just to respond to this. But in order to defend my countries role in WWI and WWII...

On June 21 2008 02:18 ilj.psa wrote:
Peru: Best food in the World, no doubt

On June 21 2008 01:49 evandi wrote:
Its probably really lame of me to register just to respond to this. But in order to defend my countries role in WWI and WWII...

In WWI we tipped the scales, we got there after Russia had left the war and Germany was only fighting on one front. We drafted a 4 million man army to break a stalemate. We were necessary for the Victory in WWI.

In WW2 we greatly assisted the allies with the lend-lease act in order to supply Russia and Britain with equipment they needed. We kept Britain in the war by also making sure that the Islands could bring in supplies. And all of you guys seem to be ignoring Japan. We singlehandedly defeated Japan because Russia had a non-aggression treaty with them until 1945. Russia did absolutely nothing to help us with Japan. Russia also tried to have a non-aggression treaty with Germany, but was betrayed.

Russia did the most on the Western front, but we helped fund their war effort. We singlehandedly handled the Eastern front.

It is not just now that USA has the largest economy in the world. We had the largest economy then as well.

But I don't think everyone has to bow down to us until the end of time because of how necessary it was for us to join the war.

On June 21 2008 03:03 jello_biafra wrote:

I think you mixed up the Eastern and Western fronts. And the western front (I assume this was what you meant) wasn't singlehandedly handled by the US, it was a joint effort by troops from Britain, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and numerous other former British colonies. Although admittedly the vast majority of the military hardware that was shipped onto mainland Europe was American.

On June 21 2008 02:36 VIB wrote:
hmmm that got me curious, what do you eat there that you like so much?

On June 21 2008 03:20 evandi wrote:


I did mix it all up. I labeled Japan the eastern front and Europe the western front. If it were from Russia's point of view thats how I would expect it to be labeled. And I would not mind that label because the Russians were the only ones fighting in the West on a very large scale until D-Day.

The number of German troops in Africa was small compared to what they sent against Russia.

But I don't think UK did nothing, but its not like Egypt is west of eastern Europe.

I meant that we singlehandedly handled Japan. We did not singlehandedly handle Africa and Western Europe. But a British dude pointed out to me years ago how much more German troops were fighting Russia then were fighting UK and America. Of course, Russia could focus entirely on one front. But if you completely ignore Japan thats pretty Eurocentric. Japan could have probably broken their armistice with Russia if they had not been fighting us, just as Germany broke their promise.

On June 21 2008 02:14 PsycHOTemplar wrote:

Yes, it really is. Are you new to the internet?

On June 21 2008 03:36 HamerD wrote:


If you are new, this is what we refer to as trolling.

It's not at all lame. It's one of the better first posts.

On June 19 2008 19:04 useLess wrote:
we already have an obesity epidemic (a fucking epidemic!) while millions go hungry, millions of poor in a land of exploited opportunity, and a weakening dollar admist rising gas prices.

nah, nothing to bash

On June 20 2008 15:17 ez(styles) wrote:
Why is the USA so great?? American soldiers have not only fought for our freedom but they have fought for yours. remember that next time you want to jump on the bash America bandwagon.

We're not the USA
That has to count for something right?

On June 20 2008 07:03 Jyvblamo wrote:

America turtled on island and teched to nukes. Also, some drop harass.

On June 21 2008 14:36 MeriaDoKk wrote:


When?

On June 20 2008 22:55 Hawk wrote:
Three mother fuckin words: New York City

I also love how we have such a cluster fuck of cultures, esp in the NYC area, cuz I can get awesome food from pretty much any country in the world =]

And, as much as we bitch about our current administration and how they are pissing all over our rights, we're pretty much free to do a lot of things that would get you shot in other countries. That's totally unappreciated by many people, esp our current generation.

On June 21 2008 16:31 Cambium wrote:


OMG, NYC = LOOOVE

About food, I heard Tokyo is better than NYC, I'm going to check that out this Fall

On June 20 2008 22:26 Liquid`Drone wrote:
its certainly laughable when americans seem to think that "they saved europe", but thinking germany would have been defeated without american help is equally stupid.

On June 21 2008 21:01 HeadBangaa wrote:



Yes yes, team effort. Go Allies. But not our continent, so it's a much bigger deal.

On June 22 2008 10:23 FragKrag wrote:
Had the US and Britain not started another front in Italy and France, Germany could have sent more troops/supplies to the Eastern Front which may have turned the tide of the war. However, I'm not saying that the Soviets didn't carry the brunt of the effort against Germany, just that it could of been different had the US intervened militarily, and with supplies via lend-lease.

And on the Pacific front, well, Japan would have been able to force the Russians on a two front war, and I don't think China could have held the Japanese for much longer.

On June 22 2008 10:36 TheTyranid wrote:

There was only 10% of German forces on the western front. 90% was on the eastern front. Even if all those forces were to be sent to the east, they would only delay the Soviet victory.

Taking Japan out as a possible second front against USSR was very crucial. US' impact on the war was almost exclusively in the Pacific.

we have the strongest free speech rights in the world

On June 22 2008 10:32 TheTyranid wrote:
Russia is the strongest county in the world. Over a thousand years of blood filled history. We fought off the Swedes, Mongols, French, Germans. Our lands have been burned and taken, but we never ever surrendered. We have gone through a revolution and were the most powerful country in the world; and after all that went crashing down, we still fought on and now we are on the rise again and will hopefully become the number 1 country once again with America falling from power.

On June 20 2008 06:23 NonY[rC] wrote:
best bw players outside of korea

On June 22 2008 12:35 DTDominion wrote:
Many things suck in the U.S., but we have the strongest free speech rights in the world and our economy in a "recession" still drives the civilized world. It's good to be the king.

On June 22 2008 13:13 Smuft wrote:


I don't think there was ever a point in BW history where this was even close to true. Americans would have been lucky to even been top 3 in BW at any time.

On June 22 2008 14:27 Xeris wrote:


I dunno... I think we're top 3 now, and when Assem/Froz were in their primes, I'd say USA was top 3 at least then too...

On June 20 2008 08:09 zatic wrote:
We're one of the most tolerant countries in the world. We used to be the worst mofos in the world, but now, to everything strange and foreign we are the nicest bunch. We accept your personal choice of religion, sexuality, well, almost everything.

Our checks and balances still work. Our supreme court invalidates every one of those fucking laws our minister of suppression can come up with.

We know how to work. We get things done. Germans don't even believe that them selfs, but once you've been abroad you notice the difference. We build the best cars, the best roads, the best houses, the best machinery, we brew the best beer. The whole world acknowledges the quality of everything Made in Germany. Germans earned and still earn their reputation.

We will win the Euro 2008.

God I love so much about this country it's only surpassed by how much I hate this country.

On June 22 2008 10:14 aqui wrote:
arg didnt want to but have to:
there was never a way germany could habe defeated russia. soviets conquered berlin and they would have done the same without the other allies.
USA saved europe in that way, that the entire continent did not become soviet.

On June 20 2008 08:09 zatic wrote:, we brew the best beer.

On June 20 2008 06:34 AnyOne wrote:
empanadas <3