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NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11780 Posts
October 12 2024 19:57 GMT
#14761
On October 13 2024 04:15 Lmui wrote:
I'm honestly quite impressed. If true, it's something I didn't expect to happen for another 6mo-1y. It's probably quite a high risk operation to do it, similar to the patriot ambushes.

Here's to more shootouts and the first Ace since Vietnam.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_ace#Iran–Iraq_war

Seems to be a few since then. Russia even claims one in the current Ukraine war.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42298 Posts
October 12 2024 20:38 GMT
#14762
Yep. Gotta get above the floor to get a good shot at something far behind the contact line but doing so makes you a target to Russian anti air. High risk. Still, F-16 can fire and redeploy more quickly than a patriot so it’s better than anything else they have.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6834 Posts
October 15 2024 08:00 GMT
#14763
On October 13 2024 04:57 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2024 04:15 Lmui wrote:
I'm honestly quite impressed. If true, it's something I didn't expect to happen for another 6mo-1y. It's probably quite a high risk operation to do it, similar to the patriot ambushes.

Here's to more shootouts and the first Ace since Vietnam.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_ace#Iran–Iraq_war

Seems to be a few since then. Russia even claims one in the current Ukraine war.


According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, during the fighting in Ukraine, Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Sizov "destroyed 12 Ukrainian aircraft (3 Su-24 aircraft, 3 Su-27 aircraft, 3 MiG-29 aircraft, 2 Mi-24 helicopters, 1 Mi-14 helicopter) and two Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile complexes.[46]


Yeah... sure
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10650 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-15 08:06:10
October 15 2024 08:03 GMT
#14764
Probably took the last down with a Knife due to being out of ammo.
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland926 Posts
October 15 2024 08:55 GMT
#14765
Probably trained by playing Battlefield, I see shit like that all the time in there.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17944 Posts
October 15 2024 10:03 GMT
#14766
On October 15 2024 17:00 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2024 04:57 Yurie wrote:
On October 13 2024 04:15 Lmui wrote:
I'm honestly quite impressed. If true, it's something I didn't expect to happen for another 6mo-1y. It's probably quite a high risk operation to do it, similar to the patriot ambushes.

Here's to more shootouts and the first Ace since Vietnam.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_ace#Iran–Iraq_war

Seems to be a few since then. Russia even claims one in the current Ukraine war.


Show nested quote +
According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, during the fighting in Ukraine, Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Sizov "destroyed 12 Ukrainian aircraft (3 Su-24 aircraft, 3 Su-27 aircraft, 3 MiG-29 aircraft, 2 Mi-24 helicopters, 1 Mi-14 helicopter) and two Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile complexes.[46]


Yeah... sure

Does it specify air to air combat? Maybe he dropped a bomb on a hangar where they were being repaired?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17944 Posts
October 15 2024 10:04 GMT
#14767
On October 15 2024 17:55 hexhaven wrote:
Probably trained by playing Battlefield, I see shit like that all the time in there.

Real pros stand on the wing of a fighter and shoot down targets with a sniper rifle!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24568 Posts
October 15 2024 11:06 GMT
#14768
On October 15 2024 19:04 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2024 17:55 hexhaven wrote:
Probably trained by playing Battlefield, I see shit like that all the time in there.

Real pros stand on the wing of a fighter and shoot down targets with a sniper rifle!

Well they actually jump off the wings of the fighter and do a 360 no scope while the fighter does a loop-the-loop and catches them
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6834 Posts
October 15 2024 11:26 GMT
#14769
On October 15 2024 19:03 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2024 17:00 Harris1st wrote:
On October 13 2024 04:57 Yurie wrote:
On October 13 2024 04:15 Lmui wrote:
I'm honestly quite impressed. If true, it's something I didn't expect to happen for another 6mo-1y. It's probably quite a high risk operation to do it, similar to the patriot ambushes.

Here's to more shootouts and the first Ace since Vietnam.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_ace#Iran–Iraq_war

Seems to be a few since then. Russia even claims one in the current Ukraine war.


According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, during the fighting in Ukraine, Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Sizov "destroyed 12 Ukrainian aircraft (3 Su-24 aircraft, 3 Su-27 aircraft, 3 MiG-29 aircraft, 2 Mi-24 helicopters, 1 Mi-14 helicopter) and two Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile complexes.[46]


Yeah... sure

Does it specify air to air combat? Maybe he dropped a bomb on a hangar where they were being repaired?


That would be way more likely. Unfortunately the source of the wiki entry is paywalled
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17238 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-15 12:19:34
October 15 2024 11:55 GMT
#14770
Some interesting info: in 2022 Ivan Krastev (Bulgarian political scientist) gave an interview for Newsweek where he said that Putin isn't interested in any territorial gains. What he needs is people and that's what this entire war is about. Putin has a demographic obsession and is certain that to survive in the modern world Russia needs Ukrainian men and women.He wants to unify Ukraine and Belarus with Russia, but mostly he wants to destroy their nationalities and get an injection of "ethnically and culturally proper" people into the Motherland. According to the Russian elites it's the last hope for Russia because otherwise they're facing a cultural revolution as the number of ethnically native Russians is dwindling while the Muslim population primarily from Central Asia and Caucassus is on the rise.

In a twist of fate though the war is potentially making the situation worse for Russia since they've lost a lot of young men of their desired ethnicity and culture either on the front or due to them fleeing the country.

He also gave a bit more insights into Putin's mind in Der Spiegel.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/ivan-krastev-on-russia-s-invasion-of-ukraine-putin-lives-in-historic-analogies-and-metaphors-a-1d043090-1111-4829-be90-c20fd5786288


The changes will be so significant that the regime will have to change in order to survive, just as will happen in Europe as well. Our economy will change, as will our understanding of freedom and democracy. Already, the media has changed in order to fight the disinformation coming out of Russia. That will have consequences.
[...]
Because of the pandemic and this war, the state again plays a larger role. In the pandemic, it was the welfare state that cared for its citizens and kept them alive. In this war, it is the security state that doesn’t just protect its citizens, but could also demand something from them: Namely, the readiness to make sacrifices. A friend of mine works at one of the biggest business schools. I told him: Everything you are teaching is useless. Just as useless as teaching socialism studies was in 1990. The world of globalization and free trade, in which the economy was only interested in bottom lines and not in politics, will be over. We don’t know what will happen in Russia after Putin, or in Europe, which currently finds itself in a romantic phase. But we shouldn’t make the same mistakes as in 1989. Back then, we thought the East would change dramatically, but not the West. Now, Russia is going to change dramatically. But so will we.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
ahwala
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany382 Posts
October 15 2024 23:12 GMT
#14771
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User was warned for this post
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42298 Posts
October 16 2024 01:39 GMT
#14772
Not sure if intentional criticism by superimposing the tsarist imperialist iconography on the Russian flag or accidental self own?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7858 Posts
October 16 2024 05:07 GMT
#14773
On October 15 2024 17:00 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2024 04:57 Yurie wrote:
On October 13 2024 04:15 Lmui wrote:
I'm honestly quite impressed. If true, it's something I didn't expect to happen for another 6mo-1y. It's probably quite a high risk operation to do it, similar to the patriot ambushes.

Here's to more shootouts and the first Ace since Vietnam.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_ace#Iran–Iraq_war

Seems to be a few since then. Russia even claims one in the current Ukraine war.


Show nested quote +
According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, during the fighting in Ukraine, Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Sizov "destroyed 12 Ukrainian aircraft (3 Su-24 aircraft, 3 Su-27 aircraft, 3 MiG-29 aircraft, 2 Mi-24 helicopters, 1 Mi-14 helicopter) and two Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile complexes.[46]


Yeah... sure

If you want a good laugh look at the kill number for ww2 russian snipers. Some guys are supposed to have killed like 300 germans or something. You add the numbers of their top snippers and really it sounds like 12 guys won Stalingrad by themselves.

Propaganda kill numbers is a tradition in Russia and have been for over a century.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8020 Posts
October 16 2024 05:36 GMT
#14774
On October 16 2024 08:12 ahwala wrote:
[image loading]


Want to explain this?
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4709 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-16 07:47:58
October 16 2024 07:46 GMT
#14775
On October 16 2024 10:39 KwarK wrote:
Not sure if intentional criticism by superimposing the tsarist imperialist iconography on the Russian flag or accidental self own?


Thats the current presidential standard of the Russian Federation in the presidents function as the supreme commander of the armed forces.

It is indeed very similiar to the Tsar flag introduced in 1693, which suggests many things about Russia itself, but it is also official iconography. I guess he is saying "Putin something"?
Pathetic Greta hater.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4541 Posts
October 16 2024 09:17 GMT
#14776
Crownception or maybe eaglenception?
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
EnjoyerGratify
Profile Joined October 2024
1 Post
October 18 2024 06:13 GMT
#14777
--- Nuked ---
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom862 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-18 13:55:19
October 18 2024 13:52 GMT
#14778
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vkqwe9wwdo

"North Korea has started sending troops to fight with Russia in Ukraine, South Korea's spy agency has said..."

I find this somewhat surprising, and I don't know how useful North Korean soldiers are going to be if they have to fight alongside Russian soldiers because of the language barrier. They also don't have any real combat experience. Like the article says, they'll likely be used to defend Russian territory to prevent another Kursk situation occurring.
"I don't like Starcraft 2. I play because it's something I'm good at, it's something I've been involved in for a lot of time, and I like the competition. But I think the game is shit. I don't love it at all." - IdrA
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
716 Posts
October 18 2024 18:04 GMT
#14779
Ukraine declared war on North-Korea and Iran. China singed a partnership pact where they support Russian war in Ukraine and Russia will support China on Taiwan.

Here is hoping this wakes up some of the folks that think this is a localized conflict.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11417 Posts
October 18 2024 18:13 GMT
#14780
Do you have a source for that?
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