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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 05 2020 20:23 GMT
#3301
Poor DC. The living embodiment of taxation without representation.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
November 05 2020 20:23 GMT
#3302
On November 06 2020 05:18 FlaShFTW wrote:
GEORGIA UPDATE: Michael Gold, in New York 2m ago

Georgia still has 47,277 ballots remaining to be counted, an official with the secretary of state’s office said.

So with Biden currently trailing by about 13k votes, Biden needs 30k to Trump's 17k to overtake Trump. That's still in line with the 66% line that Biden has had to hold this entire time. The remaining vote is mostly in Savannah.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-georgia-president.html

Going off the remaining vote, it's going to be so so close. There might be a trickle of Dekalb and Fulton votes but those are both at 98%+ reporting now.

Assuming Biden only holds like a 60% of the remaining vote, Trump would win by 5k votes.

60%: Trump win 5k
61%: Trump win 2.5k
62%: Trump win 1.5k
63%: Trump win 1k
64%: Tie



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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 05 2020 20:24 GMT
#3303
I think the major thing that might help Trump hold GA is if a decent share of the remaining ballots are provisional AND provisionals split better for him than the mail.
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
November 05 2020 20:26 GMT
#3304
On November 06 2020 04:55 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 04:53 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On November 06 2020 04:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
I'm curious what the winning condition is for betting markets. Like if Trump did manage to pull off some faithless elector scheme, would he be the winner by betting market standards?


When certain news networks call it. Every sport book has different criteria for which one.

Something about bookies paying out for a Biden win only for Trump to still legally (stretching that word there a bit) end up president would be very 2020.

A question for you just occurred to me (but answer might be too long for this thread, idk): I know your position on how you use your vote. But watching all this play out, did/do you find yourself hoping for any particular outcome? Or does your distaste for Biden and/or Dems in general make you pretty much indifferent one way or the other?
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
November 05 2020 20:27 GMT
#3305
On November 06 2020 05:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Let's go GA!! Do what FL should of done.


I think FL will be safe GOP with the way the Dems are trending. GA trend line the past decade should worry the GOP (same with NC). Seems like for a while battleground states are going to be GA, NC, AZ, MI, WI, PA and probably in 10-15 years TX if they dont do anything to reverse the trend there.

This is all moot if the Dems ever get enough power to jam through PR and DC as states as the GOP part of the country won't take being perennial minority status and will likely say goodbye and move towards secession. (Thats my hot take for the direction thr country likely heads in in the next decade or so)
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
November 05 2020 20:27 GMT
#3306
https://twitter.com/Brian_Chovanec/status/1324212852610183169?s=20

Still can't believe a fucking Qanon racist managed to win an election. But here we are. This is America.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
November 05 2020 20:28 GMT
#3307
https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324448396220993541?s=20

Latest update from PA: Votes that came in = +3k for Trump, +12k for Biden. That's a whopping 4:1 advantage for Biden. This could be those Philly votes that are finally being counted. Lead is now 100k.
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Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
November 05 2020 20:29 GMT
#3308
On November 06 2020 05:23 Zambrah wrote:
Poor DC. The living embodiment of taxation without representation.


Easy solution is to absorb the electorate into either MD or VA. Doesnt fuck with the tenuous balance of the country and gives them their federal representation.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 05 2020 20:31 GMT
#3309
Neither state wants DC, let them be a state. Puerto Rico too, while we're at it.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43990 Posts
November 05 2020 20:32 GMT
#3310
On November 06 2020 05:29 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 05:23 Zambrah wrote:
Poor DC. The living embodiment of taxation without representation.


Easy solution is to absorb the electorate into either MD or VA. Doesnt fuck with the tenuous balance of the country and gives them their federal representation.

Can we do this for WV too? If we're dissolving arbitrary geographic areas with a specific partisan political goal in mind then I'd not start with DC. Especially given the historical reason WV exists.
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Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
November 05 2020 20:34 GMT
#3311
On November 06 2020 05:31 Zambrah wrote:
Neither state wants DC, let them be a state. Puerto Rico too, while we're at it.

Puerto Rico doesn't really seem to want to be a state tho.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
November 05 2020 20:34 GMT
#3312
Was gonna say, who's gonna force either Va or Md to absorb DC? That's not politically palatable anywhere around here as far as I can tell.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
November 05 2020 20:34 GMT
#3313
https://twitter.com/shadihamid/status/1324386750026993671?s=20

Well this is certainly interesting, not sure if this info is true or not but holy hell 30% Muslims for Trump? After all that talk about what he thinks of them and his immigration policy. Very interesting.

GA UPDATE: https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324449301494378501?s=20

Since last time: Lead now 12.7k
Biden +3k
Trump + 2k
Only 60% gain for Biden, not enough. Georgia is starting to slip away.
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Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
November 05 2020 20:35 GMT
#3314
On November 06 2020 05:34 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 05:31 Zambrah wrote:
Neither state wants DC, let them be a state. Puerto Rico too, while we're at it.

Puerto Rico doesn't really seem to want to be a state tho.


There's a very recent piece of data that runs contrary to this...
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 05 2020 20:35 GMT
#3315
On November 06 2020 05:31 Zambrah wrote:
Neither state wants DC, let them be a state. Puerto Rico too, while we're at it.


The deep south does not want it. As that would effectively make them even more obsolete than that already are, and make them in the Electoral Map. Useless. If they went Republican; PR would go Democrat making their votes of no use.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
November 05 2020 20:36 GMT
#3316
On November 06 2020 05:31 Zambrah wrote:
Neither state wants DC, let them be a state. Puerto Rico too, while we're at it.


Ya, no. Do you want to purposefully disentegrate the country because thats what +4 permanent D senators will do (plus the added reps and electoral votes). How would you feel if the GOP added +4 Senators and 12+ electoral votes into their column? If MD or VA doesnt want them then their SOL. Did you skip your history lesson with the Missouri Compromise or what?
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 20:40:24
November 05 2020 20:36 GMT
#3317
On November 06 2020 05:34 farvacola wrote:
Was gonna say, who's gonna force either Va or Md to absorb DC? That's not politically palatable anywhere around here as far as I can tell.


If we're real, VA would win that fight, we're bigger and richer than MD, so we'd wind up shoving DC up MD's pooper.

But yeah, noone wants DC, frankly I don't blame 'em, lol. Never driven in a more psychotic traffic environment. Midnight on a Saturday, basically LAWLESSNESS in driving form.

EDIT: I saw WV mentioned and Im compelled to state that in VA it is legal to marry your first cousin, wheras contrary to popular imagination, in WV its illegal to marry your first cousin! Weird stuff.

On November 06 2020 05:36 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 05:31 Zambrah wrote:
Neither state wants DC, let them be a state. Puerto Rico too, while we're at it.


Ya, no. Do you want to purposefully disentegrate the country because thats what +4 permanent D senators will do (plus the added reps and electoral votes). How would you feel if the GOP added +4 Senators and 12+ electoral votes into their column? If MD or VA doesnt want them then their SOL. Did you skip your history lesson with the Missouri Compromise or what?


Democrats would win elections so the country would disintegrate.

What a tenuous existence America is, no wonder Democrats commit so hard to mediocrity in elections.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 20:39:20
November 05 2020 20:38 GMT
#3318
On November 06 2020 05:36 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 05:31 Zambrah wrote:
Neither state wants DC, let them be a state. Puerto Rico too, while we're at it.


Ya, no. Do you want to purposefully disentegrate the country because thats what +4 permanent D senators will do (plus the added reps and electoral votes). How would you feel if the GOP added +4 Senators and 12+ electoral votes into their column? If MD or VA doesnt want them then their SOL. Did you skip your history lesson with the Missouri Compromise or what?

This is a dumb and unnecessarily hostile take, it's not as though the Missouri Compromise worked, did you skip yours?
On November 06 2020 05:36 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 05:34 farvacola wrote:
Was gonna say, who's gonna force either Va or Md to absorb DC? That's not politically palatable anywhere around here as far as I can tell.


If we're real, VA would win that fight, we're bigger and richer than MD, so we'd wind up shoving DC up MD's pooper.

But yeah, noone wants DC, frankly I don't blame 'em, lol. Never driven in a more psychotic traffic environment. Midnight on a Saturday, basically LAWLESSNESS in driving form.

EDIT: I saw WV mentioned and Im compelled to state that in VA it is legal to marry your first cousin, wheras contrary to popular imagination, in WV its illegal to marry your first cousin! Weird stuff.

Having just come from the Toledo-Detroit area, I find the driving around here annoyingly familiar, but with way better roads
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
November 05 2020 20:38 GMT
#3319
On November 06 2020 05:32 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 05:29 Wegandi wrote:
On November 06 2020 05:23 Zambrah wrote:
Poor DC. The living embodiment of taxation without representation.


Easy solution is to absorb the electorate into either MD or VA. Doesnt fuck with the tenuous balance of the country and gives them their federal representation.

Can we do this for WV too? If we're dissolving arbitrary geographic areas with a specific partisan political goal in mind then I'd not start with DC. Especially given the historical reason WV exists.


Well DC is not supposed to be a state (read the Constitution). I don't think the balance of power question is an arbitrary one but if you want to ratchet up the sectarian and partisan strife to 800000% levels then ya go ahead and ram through DC and PR.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 05 2020 20:39 GMT
#3320
On November 06 2020 05:34 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 05:31 Zambrah wrote:
Neither state wants DC, let them be a state. Puerto Rico too, while we're at it.

Puerto Rico doesn't really seem to want to be a state tho.

They just passed a referendum where they went for it, actually. Not a super huge margin but it's definitely in favor now (52-47 I think)
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