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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10597 Posts
November 05 2020 19:38 GMT
#3261
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1324434930718380038?s=20

Biden is already starting to receive briefings for the state of the country. Looks like their camp is really confident for the results, which they should be.
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
2017 Posts
November 05 2020 19:39 GMT
#3262
On November 06 2020 04:33 KungKras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 04:28 Starlightsun wrote:
On November 06 2020 04:20 KwarK wrote:
Democrats really need to understand that most voters are low information voters and just don't care about knowing anything that takes longer than 10 seconds to explain. Their entire Coronavirus policy could have been "elect us and we'll force Big Pharma to release the cure". Talking about masks and R0 and lockdowns and so forth is a big turnoff for anyone who doesn't care about pandemics and the people who care about pandemics already know that shit.

Going forwards all policies should
1) Reduce a problem to an extremely basic issue
2) Describe a common sense fix for that issue
3) Make it uncontroversial
4) Make it short enough to fit on a bumper sticker

But they do not need to be in any way meaningful.

For example the new Democratic policy on abortion should be
"Killing of babies is wrong and if elected we will end the killing of babies".

The key component to this policy is that it doesn't in any way address the question of abortion because babies have already been born. Under no circumstances should that be addressed, if in doubt repeat the policy.

On foreign policy the policy should be
"Be strong and defeat our enemies #cowards"


Sadly I don't think that's far off the mark. Seems like a fundamental weakness of democracy where the vote of a total ignoramus has the same weight as someone who puts effort into staying informed.


I think Winston Churchill said something like "The best argument against democracy is a conversation with the average voter"

But he also said "Democracy is by far the worst form of government. If you disregard all others"


Just checked, he didn't, but the quote is great!
Buff the siegetank
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10597 Posts
November 05 2020 19:39 GMT
#3263
On November 06 2020 04:38 Nouar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 04:03 FlaShFTW wrote:
One more update to PA:

I talked a lot about Philly last night and the impact on Trump needing to hold some form of line before the Philly vote started coming in. When Philly was at 70% reporting, Biden had a 120k vote lead. It is now 83% with Biden having a 170k lead. Expect this vote margin to balloon to almost 300k, that's another 130k, which is already enough to push Biden over the top.

If there was an NYT needle on PA, it would be at 95%+ right now.

Where the hell do you get your numbers from ?
I see Philadephia county at 82% reporting with already +380k votes for Biden. Are you talking about the city itself ?

My brain farted hard. My numbers are off, add 200k to all the numbers haha.

So yes, you're right, Philly is +370k, I expected Biden to win by +500k in Philly. Sorry about that. I've been reducing and simplfying numbers to myself.
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ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
November 05 2020 19:40 GMT
#3264
Idk, feels like there’s nobody more likely to lose than a confident Democrat. I still think Biden has this but I wouldn’t put much stock in his campaign’s projected confidence.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10597 Posts
November 05 2020 19:42 GMT
#3265
On November 06 2020 04:40 ChristianS wrote:
Idk, feels like there’s nobody more likely to lose than a confident Democrat. I still think Biden has this but I wouldn’t put much stock in his campaign’s projected confidence.

I mean the numbers are clear. Biden has practically won Nevada, and the PA numbers are bound to flip PA soon when Philly dump comes in. Biden is looking like a +200k vote in PA at this moment.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 19:44:41
November 05 2020 19:43 GMT
#3266
FlashFTW, First of His Name, Lord of the Election Thread, Savior of Team Liquiders, Father of the Updates, Scourge of the Hopeful Trumpers, Breaker of the Uncertainties...
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 19:46:12
November 05 2020 19:45 GMT
#3267
On November 06 2020 04:39 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 04:38 Nouar wrote:
On November 06 2020 04:03 FlaShFTW wrote:
One more update to PA:

I talked a lot about Philly last night and the impact on Trump needing to hold some form of line before the Philly vote started coming in. When Philly was at 70% reporting, Biden had a 120k vote lead. It is now 83% with Biden having a 170k lead. Expect this vote margin to balloon to almost 300k, that's another 130k, which is already enough to push Biden over the top.

If there was an NYT needle on PA, it would be at 95%+ right now.

Where the hell do you get your numbers from ?
I see Philadephia county at 82% reporting with already +380k votes for Biden. Are you talking about the city itself ?

My brain farted hard. My numbers are off, add 200k to all the numbers haha.

So yes, you're right, Philly is +370k, I expected Biden to win by +500k in Philly. Sorry about that. I've been reducing and simplfying numbers to myself.


Still a better network than the AP.

After Trump's lead disappears in PA, how long do you think it will take those protesters to swap from chanting "stop the count" to "count the votes"?
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10597 Posts
November 05 2020 19:45 GMT
#3268
https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/1324435653220847616?s=20

538 update that Biden just needs 60% of the remaining vote to win the state. He is currently winning 3:1 or 75%. If the 75% line holds, Biden is projected to win 272k votes, leading to roughly a 170k victory. Philly votes still should be closer to 80/20, even 90/10.
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ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
November 05 2020 19:46 GMT
#3269
On November 06 2020 04:42 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 04:40 ChristianS wrote:
Idk, feels like there’s nobody more likely to lose than a confident Democrat. I still think Biden has this but I wouldn’t put much stock in his campaign’s projected confidence.

I mean the numbers are clear. Biden has practically won Nevada, and the PA numbers are bound to flip PA soon when Philly dump comes in. Biden is looking like a +200k vote in PA at this moment.

Oh, totally. The numbers definitely look that way, didn’t mean to imply otherwise
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10597 Posts
November 05 2020 19:47 GMT
#3270
https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324437557099245568?s=20

Decision Desk is now actually behind NYT somehow, but here's the latest updates from them.

According to their last update, the new votes that came in were +1.5k for Trump, +5k for Biden. This is a 77% gain for Biden, still holding to that 3:1 vote line that has been showing ever since the early vote started coming in.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 05 2020 19:47 GMT
#3271
Man, it's been a stressful week after betting every penny to my name on the election. Finally the stress levels are going down. Gonna feast tonight
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27471 Posts
November 05 2020 19:48 GMT
#3272
On November 06 2020 04:43 Biff The Understudy wrote:
FlashFTW, First of His Name, Lord of the Election Thread, Savior of Team Liquiders, Father of the Updates, Scourge of the Hopeful Trumpers, Breaker of the Uncertainties...

For his sterling shift in this thread he has ascended up the pole of Flashes, surging past such luminaries as Flash Gordon and Grandmaster Flash, while still a distant second to Flash ‘The Ultimate Weapon, God, the Unimpressed One’ Lee Young Ho
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 19:50:51
November 05 2020 19:49 GMT
#3273
On November 06 2020 04:47 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Man, it's been a stressful week after betting every penny to my name on the election. Finally the stress levels are going down. Gonna feast tonight

I really wish I betted because I was predicting a Biden 306-232 Trump nailbiter that would go down to Arizona and the Rust Belt, and so far it's developing like that.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8216 Posts
November 05 2020 19:49 GMT
#3274
On November 06 2020 04:48 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 04:43 Biff The Understudy wrote:
FlashFTW, First of His Name, Lord of the Election Thread, Savior of Team Liquiders, Father of the Updates, Scourge of the Hopeful Trumpers, Breaker of the Uncertainties...

For his sterling shift in this thread he has ascended up the pole of Flashes, surging past such luminaries as Flash Gordon and Grandmaster Flash, while still a distant second to Flash ‘The Ultimate Weapon, God, the Unimpressed One’ Lee Young Ho

Amen.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10597 Posts
November 05 2020 19:50 GMT
#3275
On November 06 2020 04:48 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 04:43 Biff The Understudy wrote:
FlashFTW, First of His Name, Lord of the Election Thread, Savior of Team Liquiders, Father of the Updates, Scourge of the Hopeful Trumpers, Breaker of the Uncertainties...

For his sterling shift in this thread he has ascended up the pole of Flashes, surging past such luminaries as Flash Gordon and Grandmaster Flash, while still a distant second to Flash ‘The Ultimate Weapon, God, the Unimpressed One’ Lee Young Ho

Please don't even mention me in the same sentence as God Young Ho please.

But these are hilarious, I love you all. Gotta update my sig now.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 05 2020 19:51 GMT
#3276
On November 06 2020 04:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 04:47 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Man, it's been a stressful week after betting every penny to my name on the election. Finally the stress levels are going down. Gonna feast tonight

I really wish I betted because I was predicting a Biden 306-232 Trump nailbiter that would go down to Arizona and the Rust Belt, and so far it's developing like that.


I lost like 3 years of my life in stress when Trump was up to - 300, not sure if it was worth lol.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 05 2020 19:51 GMT
#3277
On November 06 2020 04:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 04:47 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Man, it's been a stressful week after betting every penny to my name on the election. Finally the stress levels are going down. Gonna feast tonight

I really wish I betted because I was predicting a Biden 306-232 Trump nailbiter that would go down to Arizona and the Rust Belt, and so far it's developing like that.


Those 25.8% odds for Biden on Tuesday night
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24459 Posts
November 05 2020 19:52 GMT
#3278
I'm curious what the winning condition is for betting markets. Like if Trump did manage to pull off some faithless elector scheme, would he be the winner by betting market standards?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 05 2020 19:53 GMT
#3279
On November 06 2020 04:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
I'm curious what the winning condition is for betting markets. Like if Trump did manage to pull off some faithless elector scheme, would he be the winner by betting market standards?


When certain news networks call it. Every sport book has different criteria for which one.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 19:54:42
November 05 2020 19:54 GMT
#3280
On November 06 2020 04:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
I'm curious what the winning condition is for betting markets. Like if Trump did manage to pull off some faithless elector scheme, would he be the winner by betting market standards?


I think they're worded to dodge around that; all the bets will be paid out long before then, as well.

I think Australia actually already closed bets and paid out.
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