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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 18:58:06
November 05 2020 18:57 GMT
#3221
550K ballots outstanding ballots to count in PA (not counting the ones put aside for receipt after election day). It's hard to imagine how Trump can hold his ever shrinking lead there through this evening, or even this afternoon, if they're counted at the pace the SoS is predicting.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10597 Posts
November 05 2020 18:57 GMT
#3222
Something to note, Biden is now almost at 4million votes over Trump in the popular vote.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 05 2020 18:58 GMT
#3223
Not surprising, Even HRC who was also highly hated clapped him in popular vote.
Never Knows Best.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10597 Posts
November 05 2020 19:00 GMT
#3224
On November 06 2020 03:58 Slaughter wrote:
Not surprising, Even HRC who was also highly hated clapped him in popular vote.

I expect Biden to win by close to 5 million, if not more now at this point. California, NY, NJ still have a ton of vote outstanding that will continue to push the popular vote. That being said, the polls are still wrong, they had Biden near +8-10, he looks like he'll only be at +4.

PA is on track to report all their votes by tonight. Same with Georgia and Arizona. Nevada and NC are the runt of the states at this point.

Expect every news station to call PA once Biden is shown a lead.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 19:03:11
November 05 2020 19:02 GMT
#3225
It's probably a bit too much on the conspiratorial side but I think there's an element of NV not feeling comfortable with being the state that loses Trump the election. Of course Occam's Razor says that their administrators just have the time management skills of CD Projekt Red.

Or for even more conspiratorial they want the betting markets to stay open.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10597 Posts
November 05 2020 19:03 GMT
#3226
One more update to PA:

I talked a lot about Philly last night and the impact on Trump needing to hold some form of line before the Philly vote started coming in. When Philly was at 70% reporting, Biden had a 120k vote lead. It is now 83% with Biden having a 170k lead. Expect this vote margin to balloon to almost 300k, that's another 130k, which is already enough to push Biden over the top.

If there was an NYT needle on PA, it would be at 95%+ right now.
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IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
November 05 2020 19:03 GMT
#3227
Do we know around when PA should be releasing their numbers?
Something witty
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 19:07:45
November 05 2020 19:05 GMT
#3228
From what I can tell PA is just releasing numbers as they come in. They're not doing the NV/AZ drama llama crap. That said, they're aiming to be able to predict a winner by tonight; not sure if it's official or unofficial (I suspect as soon as Trump's lead is gone they will give an unofficial Biden prediction).
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10597 Posts
November 05 2020 19:08 GMT
#3229
On November 06 2020 04:03 IyMoon wrote:
Do we know around when PA should be releasing their numbers?

They're doing the tea leaves trickle method. No big dumps like Maricopa. GA and PA are the ones doing this properly, report as you go, count every vote non-stop. Nevada is like the weird isolated kid.
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polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1791 Posts
November 05 2020 19:09 GMT
#3230
Looking at the US national votes as an outsider:

72,444,480 votes (50.4%) Biden
68,896,526 votes (48%) Trump

Its amazing that after 4 years of stoking unrest, going after people that are trying to stave off the pandemic, losing advisers and staff, losing support from US's major allies, on top of the lying and not releasing tax returns and sexual assault allegations... and half the people still vote for Trump.
Leee Jaee Doong
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 05 2020 19:10 GMT
#3231
Another GA suit dismissed.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
November 05 2020 19:11 GMT
#3232
To GH’s notes on some... extreme tactics Trump might take (and Belisarius’ fears about democracy uninstalling), this seems like something to keep an eye on. Fringe right-wing personalities calling for R legislatures to override the election and give themselves power to appoint electors:

https://twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/1324406883600506880?s=21

Doesn’t seem too mainstream on the right yet? But that’s definitely where we can start to enter “failed state” territory.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
November 05 2020 19:12 GMT
#3233
On November 06 2020 04:09 polgas wrote:
Looking at the US national votes as an outsider:

72,444,480 votes (50.4%) Biden
68,896,526 votes (48%) Trump

Its amazing that after 4 years of stoking unrest, going after people that are trying to stave off the pandemic, losing advisers and staff, losing support from US's major allies, on top of the lying and not releasing tax returns and sexual assault allegations... and half the people still vote for Trump.


People arent primarily voting for a person theyre voting for what their party represents. If Im a Rand Paul libertarian republican why would I vote for the Democrats no matter how much Trump sucks? You see the same with Democrats.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
November 05 2020 19:12 GMT
#3234
On November 06 2020 04:09 polgas wrote:
Looking at the US national votes as an outsider:

72,444,480 votes (50.4%) Biden
68,896,526 votes (48%) Trump

Its amazing that after 4 years of stoking unrest, going after people that are trying to stave off the pandemic, losing advisers and staff, losing support from US's major allies, on top of the lying and not releasing tax returns and sexual assault allegations... and half the people still vote for Trump.

I'm starting to think that the media sources that the world uses to peer into the US didn't entirely catch on to how well Trump's messaging was resonating with rural voters and a surprising amount of black and hispanic people. The GOP actually diversified their coalition under Trump of all presidents, which has me wondering if his economic policies reached out very well to the low and low-middle class of all races, on top of Biden not exciting Latinos anywhere near Clinton's levels.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 19:14:00
November 05 2020 19:13 GMT
#3235
Just had a thought that makes me feel a little better about a Biden win effectively translating into a Biden presidency. I'm genuinely not sure that Trump understands how the electoral college works or what a faithless elector is. And his GOP handlers don't really want faithless electors in the equation.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 05 2020 19:13 GMT
#3236
On November 06 2020 04:11 ChristianS wrote:
To GH’s notes on some... extreme tactics Trump might take (and Belisarius’ fears about democracy uninstalling), this seems like something to keep an eye on. Fringe right-wing personalities calling for R legislatures to override the election and give themselves power to appoint electors:

https://twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/1324406883600506880?s=21

Doesn’t seem too mainstream on the right yet? But that’s definitely where we can start to enter “failed state” territory.


They weren't complaining in 2016, and wanted "ALL VOTES COUNTED". Now that they're losing, their fascist side shines bright like a diamond.
Life?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 05 2020 19:13 GMT
#3237
How has Twitter let the tweet be viewed, or not banned him from the platform?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 05 2020 19:14 GMT
#3238
On November 06 2020 04:12 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2020 04:09 polgas wrote:
Looking at the US national votes as an outsider:

72,444,480 votes (50.4%) Biden
68,896,526 votes (48%) Trump

Its amazing that after 4 years of stoking unrest, going after people that are trying to stave off the pandemic, losing advisers and staff, losing support from US's major allies, on top of the lying and not releasing tax returns and sexual assault allegations... and half the people still vote for Trump.

I'm starting to think that the media sources that the world uses to peer into the US didn't entirely catch on to how well Trump's messaging was resonating with rural voters and a surprising amount of black and hispanic people. The GOP actually diversified their coalition under Trump of all presidents, which has me wondering if his economic policies reached out very well to the low and low-middle class of all races, on top of Biden not exciting Latinos anywhere near Clinton's levels.


$1200 goes a long way to those who think $1200 is a lot of money, but you know, socialism...
Life?
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10597 Posts
November 05 2020 19:15 GMT
#3239
https://twitter.com/rickeybevington/status/1324417497450323968?s=20

Those Jojo votes are gonna come into play LOL Imagine if ranked voting was a thing, those 60k Jojo votes would've probably gone to Trump.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 05 2020 19:16 GMT
#3240
On November 06 2020 04:09 polgas wrote:
Looking at the US national votes as an outsider:

72,444,480 votes (50.4%) Biden
68,896,526 votes (48%) Trump

Its amazing that after 4 years of stoking unrest, going after people that are trying to stave off the pandemic, losing advisers and staff, losing support from US's major allies, on top of the lying and not releasing tax returns and sexual assault allegations... and half the people still vote for Trump.

I feel like there is a lot of disinformation, ignorance, and blind partisanship going on. Voters still get led into believing that Trump would be good for the economy, or that Biden is a corrupt radical socialist.

The misinformation is especially worrying. I overheard my roommate last night spouting off some right-wing conspiracy theories about the election, like how Biden is cheating with ballot stuffing, the suspiciousness of Trump winning the Florida Latino vote but not elsewhere (he likely didn't know about the Cuban vote), or how he didn't believe Kamala Harris was a natural-born citizen. I didn't want to confront him over all that, but there is a lot of BS poisoning the average voter.
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