EPTOn March 30 2020 07:29 Xxio wrote:
Go to another thread for landlords vs tenants talk.
Go to another thread for landlords vs tenants talk.
where can i find such a thread?
id be interested in seeing more of this discussion
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
where can i find such a thread? id be interested in seeing more of this discussion | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
i've been in quarantine for the last week for flu-like symptoms. i lost a lot of weight, feel tired most of the time, some shortness of breath here and there, occasional day/night sweats/chills, no fever. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
The US just passed a gargantuan stimulus package, and Trump has changed his mitigation-focused recommendations to extend to the end of April. His advisors are expecting the peak in US cases to occur in around 2 weeks time. | ||
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria873 Posts
On March 30 2020 14:54 Danglars wrote: Maybe the forum could use an international land ownership & housing market thread, in which covid would serve as an interesting backdrop, but the last page was just venom. There’s no need for personal attacks or group-membership attacks when this pandemic is affecting us all, regardless of whether it’s multiple mortgages or credit card debt. The US just passed a gargantuan stimulus package, and Trump has changed his mitigation-focused recommendations to extend to the end of April. His advisors are expecting the peak in US cases to occur in around 2 weeks time. Yep, same advice from coronavirus task force here. They say this Easter would be the darkest one (expected peak) which is worrying. I hope they don't guess.  | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24251 Posts
Then I go to wal mart and it has none of that. Employees are coughing (into their hands) while stocking, hand sanitizer and disinfecting wipes (that were around before this for carts and at the self-checkouts) are left empty, and cashiers have no PPE whatsoever, etc. The same thing is mirrored by people I saw. Some were very meticulous to observe and follow best practices, others were basically debating if licking the handrail on tiktok was worth the clout I'm glad the increased testing didn't reveal that WA is keeping up with New York's infections but I'm still concerned the bending of the curve will be well above our current capacity. | ||
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria873 Posts
On March 30 2020 19:56 GreenHorizons wrote: Have had to go out a bit recently and it is bizarre in WA how one place I go will actively be encouraging social distancing through signage, floor markings, limiting the number of people in at a given time, and employees (with ppe) reminding you. Then I go to wal mart and it has none of that. Employees are coughing (into their hands) while stocking, hand sanitizer and disinfecting wipes (that were around before this for carts and at the self-checkouts) are left empty, and cashiers have no PPE whatsoever, etc. The same thing is mirrored by people I saw. Some were very meticulous to observe and follow best practices, others were basically debating if licking the handrail on tiktok was worth the clout I'm glad the increased testing didn't reveal that WA is keeping up with New York's infections but I'm still concerned the bending of the curve will be well above our current capacity. People are so strict here that they let only a few people in shop at a time. Others have to wait outside with 2 meters distance. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24251 Posts
On March 30 2020 22:15 SC-Shield wrote: People are so strict here that they let only a few people in shop at a time. Others have to wait outside with 2 meters distance. Weed shop are like that, some gas stations, most restaurants that don't have practical curbside options do too. That's one reason it was so bizarre to see a company with practically bottomless resources not do what I saw mom and pop shops do at minimum to mitigate facilitating spreading by staying open. Sick workers, lack of sanitary supplies, no PPE at all, no signage even noting their changed hours, let alone efforts to mitigate the spread. If it weren't for there being more empty shelves and more rotten produce than usual I wouldn't even know there was a pandemic going on while I was there. The people they have that are supposed to check receipts have just given up since they had no ppe and people kept coughing while handing them receipts (and most of them are 65+). | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On March 30 2020 22:20 GreenHorizons wrote: Weed shop are like that, some gas stations, most restaurants that don't have practical curbside options do too. That's one reason it was so bizarre to see a company with practically bottomless resources not do what I saw mom and pop shops do at minimum to mitigate facilitating spreading by staying open. Sick workers, lack of sanitary supplies, no PPE at all, no signage even noting their changed hours, let alone efforts to mitigate the spread. If it weren't for there being more empty shelves and more rotten produce than usual I wouldn't even know there was a pandemic going on while I was there. The people they have that are supposed to check receipts have just given up since they had no ppe and people kept coughing while handing them receipts (and most of them are 65+). Wal-mart has always treated their employees like shit though. It's entirely unsurprising. (I think even Amazon is doing better, though they have longer hours). I know Kroger's is doing better (of course, it still has a fairly strong union) based on the people I know who work there. My local wal-greens have been doing the best so far (they were the first to implement distance measuring in their lines and they started having their employees wipe down the touchpads after every purchase first). Kroger's also has someone wiping down the self-scan touch screens, though not as consistently at every location (it's a pretty boring job so it may have just been the person zoning out when I was at one of them). They've also mostly stopped stocking entirely during the day. A local grocery store is the strictest though, with a 25 person limit on people inside at the store, with someone standing at the entrance to ensure it. They also have a setup where the cashiers and the buyers have a small boxed area where only one can be in at a time. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7361 Posts
On March 30 2020 08:20 SC-Shield wrote: Simberto is probably upset with ever increasing cost of houses, hence it's more and more difficult for each next generation to buy one. That's not helped by the fact that some people buy more houses than they need and they do it for profit purposes. Totally understandable. GreenHorizons is upset because his mother depends on rent to pay for mortgage. If they don't pay, she'll probably be in trouble. Also understandable. On a different topic, people suspect more and more that COVID-19 will be vulnerable to warmer temperature just like previous coronaviruses and the fact that flu usually hits in winter. The only exception is Spanish flu which peaked in summer. That's what I've learnt from here. The only rumors I found is that direct exposure to the sun kills the virus on metall surfaces for example. And direct hits with UVC (the stuff that gets filtered by the Ozone sphere) can criple the virus or outright kill it. Problem is, it can criple and kill humans, too. Haven't found any facts or real evidence, but I'll keep searching | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
On March 31 2020 01:31 Harris1st wrote: The only rumors I found is that direct exposure to the sun kills the virus on metall surfaces for example. And direct hits with UVC (the stuff that gets filtered by the Ozone sphere) can criple the virus or outright kill it. Problem is, it can criple and kill humans, too. Haven't found any facts or real evidence, but I'll keep searching I am only aware of this study investigating the stability of the virus on different surfaces. It seems like the main point is that aerosole transmission is also possible during a certain time-frame after the virus has been released into the environment. Its stability on different surfaces is measured under experimental conditions (21 to 23°C and 40% relative humidity) and may differ significantly in other conditions. The RKI warns that any results yielded from such studies cannot currently be applied to calculate the risk of infection in the real world. + Show Spoiler + https://www.rki.de/SharedDocs/FAQ/NCOV2019/FAQ_Liste.html | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On March 31 2020 01:31 Harris1st wrote: The only rumors I found is that direct exposure to the sun kills the virus on metall surfaces for example. And direct hits with UVC (the stuff that gets filtered by the Ozone sphere) can criple the virus or outright kill it. Problem is, it can criple and kill humans, too. Haven't found any facts or real evidence, but I'll keep searching The issue I have with that, is that there are cases all around the world, even in hotter places. It might have an effect on it, but definitly not like the flu. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11950 Posts
On March 31 2020 01:31 Harris1st wrote: The only rumors I found is that direct exposure to the sun kills the virus on metall surfaces for example. And direct hits with UVC (the stuff that gets filtered by the Ozone sphere) can criple the virus or outright kill it. Problem is, it can criple and kill humans, too. Haven't found any facts or real evidence, but I'll keep searching This kind of stuff is probably true, and also completely useless. The problem when treating viruses (or any other disease) isn't killing the viruses, it is killing the virus while keeping the host alive. Killing viruses (or anything else) is easy. Basically nothing survives high intensity ionizing radiation or really aggressive chemicals. But that stuff also kills humans. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
Not sure what to think of it, it sound good but I imagine a lot of their employee are not to happy to eventually lose one day of paid work, if they augmented the salaries I'd be happy with the measure. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On March 31 2020 02:59 Nakajin wrote: Grocery stores and the likes are gonna be close on sunday to give a breather to the employe in my province. Not sure what to think of it, it sound good but I imagine a lot of their employee are not to happy to eventually lose one day of paid work. Can you imagine countries where they are closed every sunday? PS: And Germany actually did the opposite for the crisis: They allowed groceries to open on Sunday, but basically none took the offer. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On March 31 2020 03:03 mahrgell wrote: Can you imagine countries where they are closed every sunday? PS: And Germany actually did the opposite for the crisis: They allowed groceries to open on Sunday, but basically none took the offer. Staff is proportional to open hours if you cut down on the hours some of the employee will maybe work less hours, I wouldn't mind having all store closed on sunday in general. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria873 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
The emergency supplies were due to arrive in Milan, the capital of Italy’s severely hit Lombardy region, after being transported by road from the Czech Republic. The delivery follows the despatch by the Czechs of a similar cargo of 10,000 protective suits and 90 respirators to Spain last night. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/italy-and-spain-trigger-emergency-nato-plan-to-boost-medical-kit-a4401591.html Fuck yeah, I am glad that the government didn't start thinking about denying this request(As they tried with the one from China in Februrary(I think)). It may not be much but I am glad they decided to help. | ||
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dankobanana
Croatia244 Posts
On March 30 2020 22:15 SC-Shield wrote: People are so strict here that they let only a few people in shop at a time. Others have to wait outside with 2 meters distance. Croatia too. a fixed number of people in the shop and everyone else in a line with 2m in between. It seems we have stabilized and our growth is now linear, not exponential. | ||
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