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On March 05 2020 05:08 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2020 00:37 evilfatsh1t wrote:On March 04 2020 23:33 DucK- wrote:
By the way, in Singapore all Singaporean/permanent residents suspected of the virus will have their medical bill fully covered by the government in public hospitals. So there's really no excuse for not seeking treatment if you suspect having the virus. Even if you get tested negative but are forced to be warded in isolation, you need not worry about bills. same thing in south korea. testing is available to all residents and is free. if it turns out that you have the virus then youre also paid an allowance to cover for your absence from work In the US, this would make people frustrated hearing about all this "undeserved" care. It's just sad.
On March 05 2020 00:37 GreenHorizons wrote:
Person that died locally wasn't diagnosed until after he died. Have to assume anyone that's interacted with other humans on the west side of the state could have been exposed at this point.
None of the people I organize with can afford to seek medical care sick or not, not just because of the cost of care, but unpredictable wait times and lack of appointment access means they can't afford to risk missing work where they will inevitably cough on/around people's food, dining ware, faces/hands (cosmetic services), kids (tutors/assistants and other kids with parents that can't afford child care), hotel towels, beds, folding clothes in stores, on and on and on.
So I hope folks in the US don't mind a little Corona virus coming along with anything they let poor people touch.
Just to be clear, they aren't sick because they are poor and dirty or something, they simply have to spread the virus uncontrollably because they can't afford not to.
So the logical thing when a pandemic occurs and spreads past the first country is assuming all of US is infected and deny travel from it? Since they will not have been testing for cases and normally travel a lot (since they have big businesses abroad).
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On March 05 2020 05:42 Yurie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2020 05:08 Mohdoo wrote:On March 05 2020 00:37 evilfatsh1t wrote:On March 04 2020 23:33 DucK- wrote:
By the way, in Singapore all Singaporean/permanent residents suspected of the virus will have their medical bill fully covered by the government in public hospitals. So there's really no excuse for not seeking treatment if you suspect having the virus. Even if you get tested negative but are forced to be warded in isolation, you need not worry about bills. same thing in south korea. testing is available to all residents and is free. if it turns out that you have the virus then youre also paid an allowance to cover for your absence from work In the US, this would make people frustrated hearing about all this "undeserved" care. It's just sad. Show nested quote +On March 05 2020 00:37 GreenHorizons wrote:
Person that died locally wasn't diagnosed until after he died. Have to assume anyone that's interacted with other humans on the west side of the state could have been exposed at this point.
None of the people I organize with can afford to seek medical care sick or not, not just because of the cost of care, but unpredictable wait times and lack of appointment access means they can't afford to risk missing work where they will inevitably cough on/around people's food, dining ware, faces/hands (cosmetic services), kids (tutors/assistants and other kids with parents that can't afford child care), hotel towels, beds, folding clothes in stores, on and on and on.
So I hope folks in the US don't mind a little Corona virus coming along with anything they let poor people touch.
Just to be clear, they aren't sick because they are poor and dirty or something, they simply have to spread the virus uncontrollably because they can't afford not to. So the logical thing when a pandemic occurs and spreads past the first country is assuming all of US is infected and deny flights from it? Since they will not have been testing for cases and normally travel a lot (since they have big businesses abroad).
Yeah, probably. I'm no pandemic expert though.
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On March 05 2020 05:42 Yurie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2020 05:08 Mohdoo wrote:On March 05 2020 00:37 evilfatsh1t wrote:On March 04 2020 23:33 DucK- wrote:
By the way, in Singapore all Singaporean/permanent residents suspected of the virus will have their medical bill fully covered by the government in public hospitals. So there's really no excuse for not seeking treatment if you suspect having the virus. Even if you get tested negative but are forced to be warded in isolation, you need not worry about bills. same thing in south korea. testing is available to all residents and is free. if it turns out that you have the virus then youre also paid an allowance to cover for your absence from work In the US, this would make people frustrated hearing about all this "undeserved" care. It's just sad. Show nested quote +On March 05 2020 00:37 GreenHorizons wrote:
Person that died locally wasn't diagnosed until after he died. Have to assume anyone that's interacted with other humans on the west side of the state could have been exposed at this point.
None of the people I organize with can afford to seek medical care sick or not, not just because of the cost of care, but unpredictable wait times and lack of appointment access means they can't afford to risk missing work where they will inevitably cough on/around people's food, dining ware, faces/hands (cosmetic services), kids (tutors/assistants and other kids with parents that can't afford child care), hotel towels, beds, folding clothes in stores, on and on and on.
So I hope folks in the US don't mind a little Corona virus coming along with anything they let poor people touch.
Just to be clear, they aren't sick because they are poor and dirty or something, they simply have to spread the virus uncontrollably because they can't afford not to. So the logical thing when a pandemic occurs and spreads past the first country is assuming all of US is infected and deny travel from it? Since they will not have been testing for cases and normally travel a lot (since they have big businesses abroad).
Yes. People will be faced with a choice of paying their rent or being tested. If they test positive, they are not guaranteed paid sick leave. So people who have it are motivated to not even report it.
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in the US, would each state declare closings or restrictions? or would it have to be from the president for the entire country? I'm really fascinated by the timeline of potential upcoming events.
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They are handled at local levels and I believe it is fairly complex. I think sometimes it's by State and sometimes it's at an even more local level.
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Sorry to repost but Im not the best at math and havent gotten the answer ive been looking for. Why isnt fatality rate calculated deaths ÷ (deaths + recovered)?
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On March 05 2020 13:01 kidcrash wrote:
Sorry to repost but Im not the best at math and havent gotten the answer ive been looking for. Why isnt fatality rate calculated deaths ÷ (deaths + recovered)?
If you take Southkorea for example the stats rightnow are:
Confirmed infected: 5766
Deaths: 31
Recovered: 41
By your model the fatality rate for Korea would be 31/(31+41)=43%.
That obviously does not make sense. You calculation does only make sense in an environment, where the virus is not existing any more.
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On March 05 2020 13:07 BjoernK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2020 13:01 kidcrash wrote:
Sorry to repost but Im not the best at math and havent gotten the answer ive been looking for. Why isnt fatality rate calculated deaths ÷ (deaths + recovered)? If you take Southkorea for example the stats rightnow are: Confirmed infected: 5766 Deaths: 31 Recovered: 41 By your model the fatality rate for Korea would be 31/(31+41)=43%. That obviously does not make sense. You calculation does only make sense in an environment, where the virus is not existing any more.
That make sense since the outbreak is ongoing. If someone dies it usually happens sooner than a recovery.
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I think he's trying to say that the actual mortality rate is very clearly not 43% so a calculation that leads to 43% doesn't really offer any value, despite the math being fine
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I started coughing and feeling a little sick today, pray for me frens.
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australia put a travel ban on south korea now, which was expected but still sucks for me as i had plane tickets for the end of this month because of my cousin's wedding. i was only planning on going for 2 days but if i return ill have to self quarantine for 2 weeks which is a pretty fked up situation to be in.
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On March 05 2020 13:21 9-BiT wrote:
I started coughing and feeling a little sick today, pray for me frens.
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Dont be a dick, thanks.
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So here is an update from Japan. Last Thursday evening, PM Abe said that schools across the country should close the following Monday. That gave public schools ONE day to get their year finished, and private schools like mine two days. The actual decision of when to close was left to regional authorities, but because there had been a cluster of corona at a hospital near my work, my school closed up. That meant no end of year exams, no closing ceremony, and the graduation ceremony was attended by teachers and grads only, no family or underclassmen. It was a rather surreal scene with everyone wearing a mask...
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Since then, at work, we only have three days this month where all teachers will gather together. The rest of the days we work on a rotation basis, using our paid leave on days we don't go. Thanks corona. My personal opinion is that the school closures and all other measures in Japan are about image management for the Olympics.
My daughter's junior high school has planned online lessons, so she has class from 9-9:40 and 10-10:40 everyday. Here is her "studying" while eating yogurt in her pajamas. My son is just a lazy bum.
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/YFjEvaK.jpg)
The start of April marks the start of school and new work in Japan. It is when you see all the freshmen doing their first cummutes to schools and new jobs. We have no idea which events we will be able to do, and which will be scrapped. School festivals, promotional events, and new student training are all up in the air. Until April 1st I will just work on some different projects I have going on.
Outside work, masks and alcohol wipes are impossible to find. I haven't noticed any other hoarding, but I haven't really looked hard. I took the bullet train to Nagoya Tuesday just because I had a free day, and it was pretty quiet. But, again, it was Tuesday. A friend of mine was going to be sent to his company's factory in America just to be on "standby" if the border closed up for Japanese, but he didn't end up gonig. I think the stories like that will increase as countries get more nervous. Finally, I figured if I am going to have this much time off I'm gonna get a dog. So I got a dog.
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Stay safe friends.
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They make you use paid leave? That fucking sucks.
Sadly when the virus hits Virginia hard I’m sure that’ll be how it goes down here too, if people even take any time off at all for it.
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awww, cute puppers Mani! What did you name it? Looks like its already given that tennis ball what-for.
Quite a bit of panic buying here started. Hard to find bottled water(which I don't get, you'd have tap water?), no masks(still), no sanitizer, very little paper towels/toilet paper left. Canned goods being bought up too. Cheapest stuff first. Public is mixed though, had one lady out of nowhere in the grocery store line start talking smack about a gentleman with a mask on a few lines over. She just had to vent to me about it I guess. 
Can cats get infected?
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Tap water only flows if there's electricity. Though that shouldn't really be an issue during quarantine.
In case the water supply is contaminated idk if boiling it would be so smart with the virus being airborne. Nevertheless I don't even know whether that stuff can survive in water.
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On March 03 2020 07:35 M3t4PhYzX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2020 07:29 Mohdoo wrote:On March 03 2020 07:27 Manit0u wrote:Another interesting study: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/kfiQ6b9.jpg) This is a clear indication that China has vastly understated their infection levels. agreed.. I would personally add at least one 0 to their cases and death counts.. anyways - Poland here.. still no official cases of the virus yet, but I can hardly believe that this may be true.. I'm kinda afraid of getting out of my home to be honest.. Hope this thing will peter out sooner than later. Borders and border control should be reinstated, at least for the time being, imo. This pandemic is no joke.
You are a god! Wuhan, according to the message from another god, was erased out from map by nuclear bomb. We almost dying out, only CCP and robots are running this country. Actually, I am a robot.
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Damn it's getting closer. Only 5 km from me are several confirmed cases. All got infected in Northern Italy (they all went skiing I think) and are quarantined right now.
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The most compelling piece of data about this pandemic is the cruise ship that suffered an outbreak of the virus. In any other country we don't really know how many active cases there are. We only know the cases that they tested for. There could be many more that were never sick enough to go to the hospital or they did go to the hospital and it was presumed to be a flu or pneumonia so it wasn't tested for. However on the cruise ship all of the patients were monitored so we have a good idea of the total cases and the fatalities from those cases. So far I'm seeing it reported as 706 cases with 6 deaths. Less than 1%. I've never been on a cruise but my guess is the population would skew toward the elderly so it could be even better. Although 35 are listed as critical/serious so that number could rise.
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23 confirmed cases total in Belgium yesterday, an additional 27 cases today, it's rising rather quickly.
Mostly ppl coming back from Italy.
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