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Uldridge
Belgium4852 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23296 Posts
On March 05 2020 17:15 emperorofwild wrote: You are a god! Wuhan, according to the message from another god, was erased out from map by nuclear bomb. We almost dying out, only CCP and robots are running this country. Actually, I am a robot. lmao Don't mind us westerners | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On March 05 2020 19:21 BlackJack wrote: The most compelling piece of data about this pandemic is the cruise ship that suffered an outbreak of the virus. In any other country we don't really know how many active cases there are. We only know the cases that they tested for. There could be many more that were never sick enough to go to the hospital or they did go to the hospital and it was presumed to be a flu or pneumonia so it wasn't tested for. However on the cruise ship all of the patients were monitored so we have a good idea of the total cases and the fatalities from those cases. So far I'm seeing it reported as 706 cases with 6 deaths. Less than 1%. I've never been on a cruise but my guess is the population would skew toward the elderly so it could be even better. Although 35 are listed as critical/serious so that number could rise. You have to be a little careful, because while old folks do go on cruises the kind of elderly who are most at risk from coronavirus aren't going on them. The worst off by far are frail/diabetic old folks. Just look at the nursing facility in Washington State, which is also a fairly countable/closed community but has far far higher mortality rates. This is a very heterogeneous disease, like most of its genetic cousins. In fact at the symposium I attended yesterday they were pretty sure no deaths or severe illnesses have been recorded among children/adolescents, period. Bottom line, though, is that the risk to anyone on the main consumers of a forum like this is (almost certainly) more in line with the Princess than any population estimate, even if you're in your 40s/50s. If your parents or grandparents catch it, though, I wouldn't approach it as a 1% mortality risk. Especially if they're diabetic smokers. | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
Chances for my Thailand trip at the end of the month just went from 50% to 5%... | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
Since no pathogenic viruses has ever been demonstrated either I am not sure why people think its a boogey man doing the symptoms. Its most likely the terrain, epigenetics support this. Flu kills way more people and affects way more people each year. No bigger headlines about it so people dont think much about it. Its as people panic over what mainstream media tells them to panic about, no one does any deeper research so the individual has this blind faith to what "doctors and scientists" tell them. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
- Someone at Amazon has the virus and last showed up to work on 2/25 - Someone at Facebook has the virus and last showed up to work on 2/21 - ComicCon gives no fucks: + Show Spoiler + Personal observations: - I'm working from home for the month and the rest of my org is doing the same. Pretty comfy tbh - I can't find any hand sanitizer or masks anywhere. Wouldn't mind some sanitizer but you can get yourself some wet wipes in its place. I heard a lot of commotion about toilet paper but that's still available for what looks like the normal price on Amazon, so no price gouging. - Gym is a little less crowded but all my friends are still there and I still see familiar faces. They've got more cleaning supplies but otherwise still looks the same. - I've only seen panics for food on the internet, not in real life. I was able to pick up more pasta/sausages/canned food in the event I can't leave the house and there was enough of all 3 on the shelves when I went today. Got like 6 weeks of protein powder so I'll subsist on that if anything. Still fasting for Lent so I'm not touching any of that yet but I'm hoping God forgives me in the event of an emergency - What seems to me the normal amount of people out on the streets. Everyone's talking about it but nothing's really changed. Only big events have been cancelled so far. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
For reasonably young and healthy adults it isn't more than a minor flu. The biggest impact it's had on me is buying the dip in the stock market as a lot of people are preparing for doomsday. And the second largest impact was talking to coworkers about how they're annoyed about events being cancelled (IEM live audience, Formula 1 races, etc). Anyway, it's interesting for me to see the stance countries are taking, I wonder if western countries are going to start putting curfews on their citizens and such. It's definitely causing a bigger disruption than I was expecting, but I think it's a positive feedback reaction of fear and not necessarily warranted. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
It was posted in german on r/de , and someone wrote a translation of it. It's a little rough but you can get the idea: https://www.reddit.com/r/de/comments/fcxckc/ich_bin_seit_heute_unter_quarantäne_mit_meinem/fjgbcwj/ He had some difficulties getting tested and was given advice that it wasn't necessary for him to quarantine at first, but that response improved... could tell that local medical staff/infrastructure was being overwhelmed early on but it got better over time | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/fe65hp/we_are_being_lied_to_here_is_some_proof_maryland/ | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27151 Posts
On March 06 2020 11:08 travis wrote: It seems that the government has been lying to us here in Maryland (surprise surprise) https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/fe65hp/we_are_being_lied_to_here_is_some_proof_maryland/ Your submission has been removed. Making extraordinary, especially alarming, or potentially harmful claims without substantiation is not allowed in r/China_Flu. This thread is about how the corona virus is impacting your life. This is not a place to post deleted threads from reddit. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On March 06 2020 11:26 Manifesto7 wrote: This thread is about how the corona virus is impacting your life. This is not a place to post deleted threads from reddit. That does impact my life, it impacts everyones lives bye everyone good luck with this | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23296 Posts
One of the medical field folks can tell me if that's old wives' tale logic. | ||
KwarK
United States42973 Posts
On March 06 2020 11:40 GreenHorizons wrote: I'm thinking about just treating it like Chicken Pox and getting it over with. Just in case it does start to morph into something more dangerous at least my antibodies won't be starting from scratch. One of the medical field folks can tell me if that's old wives' tale logic. What you’re saying you’d like to have is called a vaccination. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On March 06 2020 11:44 KwarK wrote: What you’re saying you’d like to have is called a vaccination. Not quite - a vaccine is more like getting cow pox to prevent small pox (ie getting a milder form of the illness). GH is talking about how some parents will purposefully expose their kids to chickenpox if one of their friends gets it in order to have them get it under more controlled circumstances. I'm sure there's a medical term for that idea, but I also have no idea if it's good. I think it's a bit different, as chicken pox(the classic example where it happens) is much harsher on adults than children so there's some rationale. I'm pretty sure purposefully exposing yourself to coronavirus isn't a good idea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pox_party (Reading up on it, it was the pre-vaccine method of treatment to a super contagious disease, but was never advised by doctors? A doctor will have to chime in for more detail) | ||
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reincremate
China2215 Posts
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KwarK
United States42973 Posts
On March 06 2020 11:52 Nevuk wrote: Not quite - a vaccine is more like getting cow pox to prevent small pox (ie getting a milder form of the illness). GH is talking about how some parents will purposefully expose their kids to chickenpox if one of their friends gets it in order to have them get it under more controlled circumstances. I'm sure there's a medical term for that idea, but I also have no idea if it's good. I think it's a bit different, as chicken pox(the classic example where it happens) is much harsher on adults than children so there's some rationale. I'm pretty sure purposefully exposing yourself to coronavirus isn't a good idea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pox_party (Reading up on it, it was the pre-vaccine method of treatment to a super contagious disease, but was never advised by doctors? A doctor will have to chime in for more detail) Getting Coronavirus early before the hospitals are flooded and when treatment is a priority is absolutely rational. | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
Considering, the development of a potent vaccine (potent being the keyword here!) will most likely take over a year (early estimates are spring/summer 2021), voluntary infecting yourself with the virus can be life threateningly dangerous. The death rate of 3.4% may not sound like much, but to put it into perspective it's over 30! times the death rate of the flu. | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
Checking in from the American midwest where we're mostly free of cases and everyone under 40 treats this thing as a joke. I've got too many diabetic and coronarily compromised relatives not to blow off some steam about this and my only other outlet (reddit) is a cesspool these days. Seems like this will almost certainly hit my metro area within the next two weeks at this pace ... we'll see I suppose. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On March 06 2020 12:12 KwarK wrote: Getting Coronavirus early before the hospitals are flooded and when treatment is a priority is absolutely rational. It is a thing where if you are sure you'll get it and knew you had the option to isolate yourself for 2 weeks then it makes sense, but we can't really predict the future that perfectly. Even the famous Spanish flu didn't affect everyone, just 1/3 of the population. So while it might make some sense on an individual level, if more than a couple people did it then it could cause those hospitals to become unnecessarily overloaded early with some unnecessary cases. | ||
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