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Any and all updates regarding the COVID-19 will need a source provided. Please do your part in helping us to keep this thread maintainable and under control. It is YOUR responsibility to fully read through the sources that you link, and you MUST provide a brief summary explaining what the source is about. Do not expect other people to do the work for you. Conspiracy theories and fear mongering will absolutely not be tolerated in this thread. Expect harsh mod actions if you try to incite fear needlessly. This is not a politics thread! You are allowed to post information regarding politics if it's related to the coronavirus, but do NOT discuss politics in here. Added a disclaimer on page 662. Many need to post better. | ||
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JimmiC
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On August 19 2022 05:56 JimmiC wrote: Congratulations, I did not think you could get be more of a jerk or more ignorant but you really outdid yourself with this post! Did it have any point other than to be a dick to people sharing their experiences and thoughts. Obviously if you have the amount of vaccinations suggested for your age group and risk category you are not an anti vaxxer. Next time you cry about people being "mean" to you, just remember this post and maybe you will understand why you are so unlikeable. What a weak ass pwn of the libs. It's amazing how whenever I post on this forum no matter the time of day you are here to respond within 10 minutes of my posting. Even though I only respond to maybe 3% of your posts these days you still respond to 95%+ of my posts. I don't think anyone else responds to even 10% of my posts. I really thought you would have given up by now when you realized nobody even reads or replies to your posts directed at me. Maybe you just like talking to a wall even if nobody is reading your posts. Not sure why you're so desperate for me to engage with you. Hopefully you are getting something out of it, carry on. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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castleeMg
Canada791 Posts
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JimmiC
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StasisField
United States1086 Posts
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
On August 19 2022 07:32 StasisField wrote: jimmic is a leftwing nutjob? Is that what we're calling people with moderate views now lmao Had the exact same thought lol | ||
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BlackJack
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On August 19 2022 08:58 JimmiC wrote: You made a purposefully jerkish post, I pointed it out and now you're trying to start some sort of fight. Im not interested. Try to stay on topic, this is tge covid thread, carry on. I typically ignore you and you respond to my post and call me ignorant, a jerk, and a dick. Now you're going to whine that I'm trying to start a fight? Lol. Okay, I will go back to ignoring you now. | ||
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JimmiC
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On August 19 2022 05:45 BlackJack wrote: I'm seeing a lot of antivaxxers in this thread now saying that they are pretty satisfied with their 3 shots. Clearly they don't understand computer modeling and risk. Would you drive without a seatbelt also?! I have COVID now despite having 3 shots (Thanks, Djokovic) and all that proves is how badly I need to get my 4th and 5th shots. Nothing against a 4th shot but delaying it doesn't mean I'm antivax. I will get one eventually. I signed up for the first 3 shots within minutes of getting the invite, and got shots for everyone in my family within days of eligibility. If the 4th shot was an Omicron booster, I'd sign up immediately. 4th shot of the OG vaccine is a little murkier, because there might be rules which prevent me from getting a Omicron booster for some period of time, after it becomes available. I'm not eligible for a 4th shot either way right now in my province, so it's purely speculation right now either way. | ||
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aseq
Netherlands4020 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
On August 19 2022 08:55 BlackJack wrote: I don't understand why you'd make 20,000+ posts on a forum where 95% of the users aren't going to challenge what you post, especially when you're so desperate for engagement. Instead of antagonizing the few posters you disagree with to bait them into an argument you could just go to r/The_donald and you'd have hundreds of people you can argue with. Also none of them will know you there so they won't have the knowledge that talking to you is a waste of time. I don't understand why you snarkily devil's advocate for stupid positions held by stupid people for stupid reasons, but hey here we are. It's frustrating as I think you've a lot of interesting stuff to say and some pretty well thought-out positions otherwise. Unlike myself! Why would he go to a place where people who are diagnostically missing a few screws hang out? He's probably in the same boat as myself, I do enjoy a good argument but there are limits to my patience as I get older. In thread related news, supposedly the UK's next round of boosters will be specifically altered to target Omicron, which makes a lot of sense and seems oddly overdue. I've neglected to get the prior booster out of laziness/busyness so I can't really preach to anyone, but I will top up when this new one is available. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14211 Posts
Its that and the narrative about the shortening time between boosters we're apparently all getting even though I've only ever had access to 3 shots. Even then its been so long that I had to dig out my original and get new copies of my vaccine card not that long ago. Talking with BJ about covid-19 is like discussing flashlights with someone who thinks batteries are just storing lightning and therefore could explode to kill us at any moment. Sure LED's vs traditional bulbs are an interesting technological tradeoff but we will never get past the point that flashlights don't randomly explode on us. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On August 19 2022 13:30 Sermokala wrote: Its just really werid that people are so happy to self report that they're ignorant and don't want to learn basic facts about whats going on with their life. If I didn't trust the vaccine like BJ clearly doesn't I wouldn't get the thing. But to get all three doses and still self report that you've never done research or attempted to understand vaccines so loudly just baffles me. Its that and the narrative about the shortening time between boosters we're apparently all getting even though I've only ever had access to 3 shots. Even then its been so long that I had to dig out my original and get new copies of my vaccine card not that long ago. Talking with BJ about covid-19 is like discussing flashlights with someone who thinks batteries are just storing lightning and therefore could explode to kill us at any moment. Sure LED's vs traditional bulbs are an interesting technological tradeoff but we will never get past the point that flashlights don't randomly explode on us. What are you talking about. I got vaccinated before anyone here. What makes you think I “”don’t trust the vaccine.” | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On August 19 2022 11:53 aseq wrote: I don't know either of you, and imo, BlackJack is just a big mouth who's looking for reactions. Having 'only' 3 shots doesn't make one an antivaxxer (and yes, that's the bigger insult). I also got covid after the 3rd shot, wasn't a big deal, may get next shot later, but not in a hurry like people at risk should be. I just think we need some clarification on how many shots you need before you’re allowed to decide for yourself what level of risk you are acceptable with. Because up until now it was trust the science, do what the experts tell you and if you don’t you’re a selfish asshole and you’re responsible for COVID still being a thing and you’re responsible for all the variants blah blah blah. Now we have people saying if the experts recommend a 4th shot they wouldn’t rush to get it. Sorry but you can’t just flip the script when it’s convenient for you just because now you’ve decided you don’t need a vaccine. | ||
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Symplectos
Luxembourg42 Posts
Science does not tell you what to do. Science does not forbid you to pee on an electric fence, it instead simply teaches you that urine is a very good electrical conductor. The decisions you make, knowing that information, are entirely up to you, respectively people who make general rules or laws (i.e. parents / bosses / politicians). This entire narrative of experts telling you what to do, and the lies that science is shifting the goal posts all the time, just to control people, is so far-fetched. As for flipping the switch: I have been reading this forum, among others, since its incarnation. Especially since Trump's presidency, the amount of switch flipping by people who argue like you - and think that they actually make rational arguments - has skyrocketed. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but not every opinion is correct, nor rational or scientific. I never really know whether throwing around blame is because of a position of weakness - having one's back to the wall, a simply nefarious desire to do evil, or just the complete hybris that one's own intellect and research is so much better than that of all the trained scientists in the world. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14211 Posts
On August 19 2022 13:48 BlackJack wrote: What are you talking about. I got vaccinated before anyone here. What makes you think I “”don’t trust the vaccine.” This is what I'm talking about because you don't. You claimed to have gotten the vaccine, claimed to have gone well out of your way to get your shots, yet present absolutely no understanding on the basics of why you got it in the first place. You constantly question why people would get a booster or why we should get a booster. If you trusted the vaccine you wouldn't do that because you would understand why people should and do get a booster. If you weren't an anti-vaxer you would understand the basic reason why you got the vaccine and why you should be looking forward to getting the omicron one when it comes out. People don't respond to your posts because they don't make sense. You trust the vaccine but don't understand why you have to get it. You understand that the basic concept of the vaccine is to increase your resistance to a disease but act shocked when you still contract the disease. You got a booster to boost your resistance to covid but question why we should get a booster. Like do you really trust the vaccine? Do you? Beacuse that statement is straight contradictory to everything else you say. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On August 19 2022 15:12 Sermokala wrote: This is what I'm talking about because you don't. You claimed to have gotten the vaccine, claimed to have gone well out of your way to get your shots, yet present absolutely no understanding on the basics of why you got it in the first place. You constantly question why people would get a booster or why we should get a booster. If you trusted the vaccine you wouldn't do that because you would understand why people should and do get a booster. If you weren't an anti-vaxer you would understand the basic reason why you got the vaccine and why you should be looking forward to getting the omicron one when it comes out. People don't respond to your posts because they don't make sense. You trust the vaccine but don't understand why you have to get it. You understand that the basic concept of the vaccine is to increase your resistance to a disease but act shocked when you still contract the disease. You got a booster to boost your resistance to covid but question why we should get a booster. Like do you really trust the vaccine? Do you? Beacuse that statement is straight contradictory to everything else you say. The story has been unchanged for over a year now. The problem is that you and a lot of people in this thread are simply incapable of differentiating between the two sentences "You should get a vaccine" and "You should have to get a vaccine." So whenever I challenge the second sentence you take it as a criticism of the first sentence. The reason it probably seems like I am constantly criticizing the vaccines is because people like you post ridiculous claims like if we all got vaccinated COVID would be almost non-existent and the unvaccinated are to blame for all our problems yadda yadda. If you would stop spreading misinformation like this I would be able to stop posting the opposite, e.g. that the vaccines offer almost no protection against Omicron infection after only a few months. Also like 3 people in this thread just said they are in no rush to get a 4th shot when it comes out so I think maybe you should show some consistency and call them out for not trusting the boosters. | ||
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