EPTI think this was more of a rant than anything. Working from home for more than a year hasn’t been stress free as I thought it would be. I’m so ready for things to be “normal” again.
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
I think this was more of a rant than anything. Working from home for more than a year hasn’t been stress free as I thought it would be. I’m so ready for things to be “normal” again. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45244 Posts
"Partisanship remains the main distinguishing factor among those who want to avoid the vaccine altogether, with 43% of Republicans versus just 5% of Democrats saying this. Currently, 22% of independents say they want to avoid getting the vaccine altogether." https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_041421/?fbclid=IwAR283_Q6mrqe2NUtf-oH3qCjQvqxpJiooKqdkIYmE_AhfjgmBy_zVzcMxnc | ||
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Lmui
Canada6221 Posts
Total Doses Distributed 277,938,875 Total Doses Administered 215,951,909 I'm hoping the USA decides they have enough of a stockpile soon to start sharing with Canada. They were at around +50m a couple weeks ago, and now even with the pause in J&J, it's rising fairly rapidly (+62m) with excess Pfizer/Moderna. Just a little bit of that stockpile would go a long way in Canada. | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
On April 22 2021 06:19 Starlightsun wrote: I got my first shot of the Moderna vaccine last Thursday. No side effects besides sore arm. Good stuff, my man. First shot super fucked me up. Second shot was so mild, light fever for a few hours and I was still able to go gym that same night. So it seems it’ll be either or, which makes sense. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14098 Posts
On April 22 2021 04:50 Lmui wrote: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/index.html Total Doses Distributed 277,938,875 Total Doses Administered 215,951,909 I'm hoping the USA decides they have enough of a stockpile soon to start sharing with Canada. They were at around +50m a couple weeks ago, and now even with the pause in J&J, it's rising fairly rapidly (+62m) with excess Pfizer/Moderna. Just a little bit of that stockpile would go a long way in Canada. A lot of that is held up as second doses are allocated but demand is going to start dropping soon as we approach more than a month after it was opened to everyone. Keeping 3m shots a day is an incredible feat but it can't keep up forever. Already clinics are closing due to lack of demand and I'm sure soon it'll start going to other countries. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4742 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7043 Posts
Vaccination is almost at an acceptable level as well. 600k - 700k doses a day, which is almost 1% of population each day. Lets hope the worst is over in 4 weeks and we finally have something to look forward to | ||
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
"Am I going to work every day?" and if the answer is "yes", there is no lockdown! Guess, what the current situation is... (just to clarify, I'm no doctor or something, but work as a programmer in engineering) Well, at least maybe all the pupils stay at home next week. The train will be empty  Also numbers are actually quite stable. Yesterday we had around 27k new cases. And exactly a week ago we had ... 27k new cases. Not good, but far from "spiralling out of control". I think that "award" currently goes to India... | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7043 Posts
On April 22 2021 21:30 Geisterkarle wrote: I have a "personal test" to see if there is a "full lockdown". And it goes like: "Am I going to work every day?" and if the answer is "yes", there is no lockdown! Guess, what the current situation is... (just to clarify, I'm no doctor or something, but work as a programmer in engineering) Well, at least maybe all the pupils stay at home next week. The train will be empty Also numbers are actually quite stable. Yesterday we had around 27k new cases. And exactly a week ago we had ... 27k new cases. Not good, but far from "spiralling out of control". I think that "award" currently goes to India... AFAIK next week, if there is any chance of you working remote, you have to. It's not optional anymore. And yes, ofc you are right. i meant out of control from a German point of view. 27k new cases are about 20k too much for my liking | ||
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Lmui
Canada6221 Posts
You want that ratio as high as possible (USA is around 60:1), so you're only behind by a factor of 2 relative to the USA. Yeah it's high, but it's not quite hard lockdown territory - soft touch is probably better at this stage in the game (stopping indoor dining, fitness facilities etc. where spread is known to occur. Canada as a whole is around 28:1 right now, so not too far off of what you're doing in Germany. You really want to avoid hitting the already hard-hit industries any harder to make sure you can get out of it in reasonable economic shape. | ||
zatic
Zurich15359 Posts
Since the summer Germany's handling of the pandemic has been a long series of complete fuckups, and looks like that's about to continue with the latest round of nonsensical measures. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6221 Posts
On April 23 2021 01:39 zatic wrote: Germany has been in lockdown since December and doesn't have anything more to lock down but businesses. They can't lock down indoor dining or fitness facilities because they have been closed anyway since November. Since the summer Germany's handling of the pandemic has been a long series of complete fuckups, and looks like that's about to continue with the latest round of nonsensical measures. Oh that sucks. In BC we did a lot of soft-touch measures, and our Provincial Health Officer got a hell of a lot of flak for appealing to people's good nature and not locking down much of anything. She was incredibly slow to mandate masks for instance, but one good side effect is that once cases started rising, we were able to put in measures to slow the spread and there was much more population compliance because people listened to a greater extent. We were also thrown a bone in allowing outdoor gatherings with the weather improving, which has also reduced spread because rather than gathering indoors secretly, people can openly meet in parks/beaches. It's still not ideal because people will invariably not listen to the social distancing that happens, but it's working to keep vaccines ahead of the virus. Our healthcare system is struggling slightly though, we've cancelled a few hundred scheduled surgeries due to lack of room in hospitals. We just passed the peak of our third wave and it's a little overwhelmed right now, but it should ease over the next 2-3 weeks. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11731 Posts
On April 23 2021 01:48 Lmui wrote: Oh that sucks. In BC we did a lot of soft-touch measures, and our Provincial Health Officer got a hell of a lot of flak for appealing to people's good nature and not locking down much of anything. She was incredibly slow to mandate masks for instance, but one good side effect is that once cases started rising, we were able to put in measures to slow the spread and there was much more population compliance because people listened to a greater extent. We were also thrown a bone in allowing outdoor gatherings with the weather improving, which has also reduced spread because rather than gathering indoors secretly, people can openly meet in parks/beaches. It's still not ideal because people will invariably not listen to the social distancing that happens, but it's working to keep vaccines ahead of the virus. Our healthcare system is struggling slightly though, we've cancelled a few hundred scheduled surgeries due to lack of room in hospitals. We just passed the peak of our third wave and it's a little overwhelmed right now, but it should ease over the next 2-3 weeks. Decisions in Germany after the first wave have been oscillating between erratic and plain stupid. It was very obvious we were heading for a second wave in september and october of last year. Yet nothing happened. At all. Until the end of november, when the decision was made to have a "mini lockdown" just until christmas with very soft measures. This obviously did nothing at all, numbers kept rising, so the lockdown kept increasing in severity and being constantly extended by a month at a time. In february, this started slowly getting results, and the numbers started falling again. Roughly at that time, the british variant started appearing very rarely. By the beginning of march, numbers were slowly falling, but the rate of decrease was lowering. Pretty much exactly at the point when the numbers were no longer falling, and in the process of rising again (due to the British variant taking over with an R of 1.2-1.3 despite the measures), the clowns who rule us decided that it would be the perfect time to open up a lot of stuff. So we opened stuff for two weeks, with lots of lofty plans on how much more we could open if numbers started to magically lower again. Surprising to absolutely no one, numbers didn't lower, but instead kept on rising. So 2-3 weeks later, they noticed that their genius plan wasn't working, which literally everyone had been telling them from the get-go. So there were some additional measures, and that is where we are now. Right in the middle of the third and largest wave so far, maybe cautiously optimistic that the numbers may be slowly lowering now, and in constant fear of what these utterly irresponsible idiots are going to decide next. And all of this shit could have been avoided, if only we didn't waste the incredibly low numbers we had during last number, and started actually reacting once numbers started rising again. But i guess industry people with lots of money always decide what CDU/CSU politicians do. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5747 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11731 Posts
On April 23 2021 03:15 maybenexttime wrote: The problem is that people are fucking stupid and sensible measures will face a massive backlash. Poland pretty much avoided the first wave altogether by locking down quickly. Did people appreciate that and kept being cautious? Quite the opposite. The success actually made a large portion of the population believe the pandemic was a hoax/overblown and led to widespread vaccine hesitancy. The denialists used it as ammunition against lockdowns, claiming it was completely unnecessary. This resulted in one of the worst performances in Europe during the second and third waves... Yeah, the pandemic is very good at showing just how idiotic relevant parts of the population are. And, as someone else stated, the most frustrating thing will be once the pandemic is finally over, the covidiots and the idiots who just don't care will be insufferable and claim that they have won, that they were always right, and that the pandemic was never a problem, when in fact the rest of us just had to fight even harder because they willfully sabotage our efforts. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On April 23 2021 03:18 Simberto wrote: Yeah, the pandemic is very good at showing just how idiotic relevant parts of the population are. And, as someone else stated, the most frustrating thing will be once the pandemic is finally over, the covidiots and the idiots who just don't care will be insufferable and claim that they have won, that they were always right, and that the pandemic was never a problem, when in fact the rest of us just had to fight even harder because they willfully sabotage our efforts. Pretty much. Regardless of how good or bad it has been in any country, it could basically always be worse unless you're living in India or Brazil or a few other countries. It's in spite of the restrictions, not because of the restrictions. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5747 Posts
On April 23 2021 03:18 Simberto wrote: Yeah, the pandemic is very good at showing just how idiotic relevant parts of the population are. And, as someone else stated, the most frustrating thing will be once the pandemic is finally over, the covidiots and the idiots who just don't care will be insufferable and claim that they have won, that they were always right, and that the pandemic was never a problem, when in fact the rest of us just had to fight even harder because they willfully sabotage our efforts. Yeah, that was me. Can't wait. T__T | ||
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Lmui
Canada6221 Posts
One of the hardest hit regions where we've had persistent spread is Prince Rupert (a remote community with around 12k people). We threw ~9000 vaccines at them, and in 3 weeks, we went from 80->72->27->3 cases a week. I'm expecting the number to be either low single digits or zero next week. Even just one dose of Pfizer makes a dramatic difference in a community. Somewhere between Israel's 60% and Prince Rupert's 75% is where herd immunity really takes effect. My parents are now eligible to be vaccinated (I'll book their appointments tomorrow) and it's going to be a huge relief for me once they're protected. Just a little more to go til the end for my family. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On April 24 2021 16:38 Lmui wrote: Somewhat real-world example of an upper bound for herd immunity. One of the hardest hit regions where we've had persistent spread is Prince Rupert (a remote community with around 12k people). We threw ~9000 vaccines at them, and in 3 weeks, we went from 80->72->27->3 cases a week. I'm expecting the number to be either low single digits or zero next week. Even just one dose of Pfizer makes a dramatic difference in a community. Somewhere between Israel's 60% and Prince Rupert's 75% is where herd immunity really takes effect. My parents are now eligible to be vaccinated (I'll book their appointments tomorrow) and it's going to be a huge relief for me once they're protected. Just a little more to go til the end for my family. That is great news, and it really adds to the case for mass vaccination. I believe no country should rely on that approach alone, but it's a very important step in the right direction. I hope more politicians accept soon that they have no option other than to introduce more, smarter measures to keep the incidence rate down. There's simply no way around tight border control and a system of quarantines and track and trace if we want to get back to normal. Example: Australia - which is considered to have the epidemic largely under control - has recently been hit by a surge of imported cases. "That's a really high number. They're all recent overseas arrivals in our medi-hotels," Chief Public Health Officer Nicola Spurrier said. That particular news isn't necessarily a cause for alarm in Australia, but it certainly shows how quickly things can get out of control in places that are unprepared. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-22/south-australia-records-new-covid-cases/100087356 My mom also received her first jab recently, which is a huge relief especially because she's a teacher. She mentioned no side effects besides a bit of redness on the injection site. | ||
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