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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
January 28 2021 18:27 GMT
#1121
On January 29 2021 03:01 Emnjay808 wrote:
The ask price of GME is at 5,000

These boys with 💎 🙌

I’m so rooting for y’all. I’m sad I didn’t buy one share when I had the chance just so I can say I was a part of this.

I put in a sell order at 5000 this morning. Wonder if that’s me.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 18:49:51
January 28 2021 18:48 GMT
#1122
Oof, yeah, rough day, will be interesting to see what comes out of it.

Bought a couple protective puts with earnings yesterday an hour before close from . Looks like I didn't buy enough, sold them at 14.5 today.

Down only 4k because of that (would have been closer to 50k otherwise), which is a relief, but man, I was so bullish on today. Guess I'll hold BB from here, I dunno.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 28 2021 19:21 GMT
#1123
So there is speculation that Citadel reloaded their shorts across the board before Robinhood banned trades on said stocks. If true then they need to head to prison.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 19:38:14
January 28 2021 19:32 GMT
#1124
On January 29 2021 04:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So there is speculation that Citadel reloaded their shorts across the board before Robinhood banned trades on said stocks. If true then they need to head to prison.


What I don't understand is how a PRIVATE company can have that much influence in the market.

If you care about the integrity of the market, how can you have a private company executing 40% of the trades? They could literally cause a cascading recession if they wanted to. Big eye opener for me, hopefully there's a lot of attention put on it.

It's too bad though, because even if there is a lawsuit, they don't have enough equity to cover the cascading effect they caused.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
January 28 2021 20:31 GMT
#1125
On January 29 2021 04:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2021 04:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So there is speculation that Citadel reloaded their shorts across the board before Robinhood banned trades on said stocks. If true then they need to head to prison.


What I don't understand is how a PRIVATE company can have that much influence in the market.

If you care about the integrity of the market, how can you have a private company executing 40% of the trades? They could literally cause a cascading recession if they wanted to. Big eye opener for me, hopefully there's a lot of attention put on it.

It's too bad though, because even if there is a lawsuit, they don't have enough equity to cover the cascading effect they caused.


Are you suggesting there should be government interference in the market-making market? Maybe a governmental brokerage firm?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
January 28 2021 20:52 GMT
#1126
On January 29 2021 03:27 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2021 03:01 Emnjay808 wrote:
The ask price of GME is at 5,000

These boys with 💎 🙌

I’m so rooting for y’all. I’m sad I didn’t buy one share when I had the chance just so I can say I was a part of this.

I put in a sell order at 5000 this morning. Wonder if that’s me.


You’re not the only one. A lot of people are putting selling orders at $5k.

I’m just over here buying dips through E*TRADE. Although they stopped letting new accounts purchase AMC and GME, etcc.. which is wack.
Life?
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
January 28 2021 20:58 GMT
#1127
On January 29 2021 05:31 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2021 04:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On January 29 2021 04:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So there is speculation that Citadel reloaded their shorts across the board before Robinhood banned trades on said stocks. If true then they need to head to prison.


What I don't understand is how a PRIVATE company can have that much influence in the market.

If you care about the integrity of the market, how can you have a private company executing 40% of the trades? They could literally cause a cascading recession if they wanted to. Big eye opener for me, hopefully there's a lot of attention put on it.

It's too bad though, because even if there is a lawsuit, they don't have enough equity to cover the cascading effect they caused.


Are you suggesting there should be government interference in the market-making market? Maybe a governmental brokerage firm?


Is that a bad idea?

Honestly I don't know much about how it works, but keeping the integrity of our markets should be a fundamental right or whatever. Same idea as net neutrality.

I'm not sure how you go about achieving that, but strict regulations on how the middle man can act seem important to me. A private company that doesn't need to open up their books doesn't seem smart.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22562 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 21:07:19
January 28 2021 21:06 GMT
#1128
On January 29 2021 05:58 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2021 05:31 IgnE wrote:
On January 29 2021 04:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On January 29 2021 04:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So there is speculation that Citadel reloaded their shorts across the board before Robinhood banned trades on said stocks. If true then they need to head to prison.


What I don't understand is how a PRIVATE company can have that much influence in the market.

If you care about the integrity of the market, how can you have a private company executing 40% of the trades? They could literally cause a cascading recession if they wanted to. Big eye opener for me, hopefully there's a lot of attention put on it.

It's too bad though, because even if there is a lawsuit, they don't have enough equity to cover the cascading effect they caused.


Are you suggesting there should be government interference in the market-making market? Maybe a governmental brokerage firm?


Is that a bad idea?

Honestly I don't know much about how it works, but keeping the integrity of our markets should be a fundamental right or whatever. Same idea as net neutrality.

I'm not sure how you go about achieving that, but strict regulations on how the middle man can act seem important to me. A private company that doesn't need to open up their books doesn't seem smart.
didn't regulators epicly fail with the 2008 mortgage crisis? Why would it end differently in this situation?

Not saying the current situation is fine and should be kept. But maybe the solution is to not allow this sort of speculative trading to exist in the first place, rather then try to regulate it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 28 2021 21:14 GMT
#1129
On January 29 2021 06:06 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2021 05:58 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On January 29 2021 05:31 IgnE wrote:
On January 29 2021 04:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On January 29 2021 04:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So there is speculation that Citadel reloaded their shorts across the board before Robinhood banned trades on said stocks. If true then they need to head to prison.


What I don't understand is how a PRIVATE company can have that much influence in the market.

If you care about the integrity of the market, how can you have a private company executing 40% of the trades? They could literally cause a cascading recession if they wanted to. Big eye opener for me, hopefully there's a lot of attention put on it.

It's too bad though, because even if there is a lawsuit, they don't have enough equity to cover the cascading effect they caused.


Are you suggesting there should be government interference in the market-making market? Maybe a governmental brokerage firm?


Is that a bad idea?

Honestly I don't know much about how it works, but keeping the integrity of our markets should be a fundamental right or whatever. Same idea as net neutrality.

I'm not sure how you go about achieving that, but strict regulations on how the middle man can act seem important to me. A private company that doesn't need to open up their books doesn't seem smart.
didn't regulators epicly fail with the 2008 mortgage crisis? Why would it end differently in this situation?

Not saying the current situation is fine and should be kept. But maybe the solution is to not allow this sort of speculative trading to exist in the first place, rather then try to regulate it.

Regulators were owned by the banks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 21:20:04
January 28 2021 21:16 GMT
#1130
This post from an alleged Robinhood employee is impressive (also available on reddit, worth noting it's locked for being at least partially dubious):

+ Show Spoiler +


"From the White House" is really quite amazing if true. No surprise about the money men wanting GME shut down, of course.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44283 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 21:33:15
January 28 2021 21:28 GMT
#1131
Smells fake to me. Probably mostly true in terms of what went down but I doubt that a low level tech overheard the founder planning a conspiracy.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 28 2021 21:32 GMT
#1132
I'm inclined to agree. Reading the thread more closely people rightfully point out the story doesn't quite add up. Generated enough noise to be worth acknowledging though.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 28 2021 21:32 GMT
#1133
On January 29 2021 06:28 KwarK wrote:
Smells fake to me. Probably mostly true but I doubt that a low level tech overheard the founder planning a conspiracy.


Easiest 20k karma of this life. Plus he got a job offer in the comments.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 28 2021 21:38 GMT
#1134
On January 29 2021 05:58 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2021 05:31 IgnE wrote:
On January 29 2021 04:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On January 29 2021 04:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So there is speculation that Citadel reloaded their shorts across the board before Robinhood banned trades on said stocks. If true then they need to head to prison.


What I don't understand is how a PRIVATE company can have that much influence in the market.

If you care about the integrity of the market, how can you have a private company executing 40% of the trades? They could literally cause a cascading recession if they wanted to. Big eye opener for me, hopefully there's a lot of attention put on it.

It's too bad though, because even if there is a lawsuit, they don't have enough equity to cover the cascading effect they caused.


Are you suggesting there should be government interference in the market-making market? Maybe a governmental brokerage firm?


Is that a bad idea?

Honestly I don't know much about how it works, but keeping the integrity of our markets should be a fundamental right or whatever. Same idea as net neutrality.

I'm not sure how you go about achieving that, but strict regulations on how the middle man can act seem important to me. A private company that doesn't need to open up their books doesn't seem smart.

Ideally you'd have something like a commission which regulates unusual or harmful securities behavior on the major exchanges. Something that would keep people from behaving in a harmful fashion.

Bonus points if such an organization is not also gutted by the direction of the people who would stand to gain from a reduced amount of regulation to make money by playing dirty with market manipulation.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4447 Posts
January 28 2021 22:04 GMT
#1135
Robin hood now stating they will allow 'limited' buying of those shorted stocks starting tomorrow.

https://blog.robinhood.com/news/2021/1/28/an-update-on-market-volatility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 29 2021 00:28 GMT
#1136
GME almost back to yesterday's close in after-hours trading. Can't stop won't stop!

Though, I hear Friday was the magic day for many calls to expire worthless at $300, so the market manipulators have gotten what they wanted.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
January 29 2021 00:46 GMT
#1137
Bought the top of GME at 330. The fomo has gotten to me.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
January 29 2021 00:54 GMT
#1138
On January 29 2021 09:28 LegalLord wrote:
GME almost back to yesterday's close in after-hours trading. Can't stop won't stop!

Though, I hear Friday was the magic day for many calls to expire worthless at $300, so the market manipulators have gotten what they wanted.

Which ones?
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
January 29 2021 01:24 GMT
#1139
Never thought I would agree with tucker Carlson on something but he just tore into the hedgefunds and robinhood for 15 minutes straight then had dave portnoy as his guest who tore into them some more
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10556 Posts
January 29 2021 01:36 GMT
#1140
There are two people in one of the reddit threads claiming that their partial shares somehow managed to sell at 2,600 for 1 share. (they had about .1 of a share so total profit was about 200 for their partial shares). Not sure if this is true or not, but if that's the case, if trading wasn't shut down today, today might've very well seen the stock skyrocket and been squeezed. It's going to be absolute chaos tomorrow.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/l7bpf5/30_seconds_from_triggering_market_nuclear_bomb/gl5vgof/
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