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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
January 28 2021 00:57 GMT
#1081
On January 28 2021 09:50 Emnjay808 wrote:
It’s a scare tactic. Stay strong! Lol


Hope it only fuels the anger, and the community will double down.

I think it's complete bullshit trying to shut down wsb, imo they're doing nothing wrong at all. The big players are doing the real ugly shit.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1968 Posts
January 28 2021 01:06 GMT
#1082
This whole thing is an interesting story, and I wasn't really planning on buying (I've never bought stocks) before, but now I might just buy a share out spite at the very least.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 01:15:28
January 28 2021 01:15 GMT
#1083
My friend got into NAKD for .60 and it peaked at 3.25

I’m setting my alarm for 1am and buying when the market opens if it goes to .9

I’m hoping people stay strong lol. I wanna believe.
Skol
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
January 28 2021 01:17 GMT
#1084
On January 28 2021 10:15 Emnjay808 wrote:
My friend got into NAKD for .60 and it peaked at 3.25

I’m setting my alarm for 1am and buying when the market opens if it goes to .9

I’m hoping people stay strong lol. I wanna believe.


Very nice.

And yeah, people who don't stay strong here send a strong message of not fighting for democracy imo.

The more I think about what's going on the more I'm fuming.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
January 28 2021 01:22 GMT
#1085
What happens on Friday? Are the short sellers fucked? Is that when there loan is due? That’s what WSB keeps saying but I’d like a more level head here to confirm.

Because if that’s the case, I’ll buy some GME. I’d never sell. What I bought was satisfaction. I’d print that paper and frame it.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 01:30:40
January 28 2021 01:27 GMT
#1086
I'd post what I think is mooning next, but isn't posting this in an online forum why WSB got dunked on in the first place?
It's a stonk in this dude's list (pretty easy to spot when finding the similarity to gme and having a glance at the chart).

https://www.shortsight.com/gamestop-shorts-down-5-billion-in-2021/

On January 28 2021 10:22 hiro protagonist wrote:
What happens on Friday? Are the short sellers fucked? Is that when there loan is due? That’s what WSB keeps saying but I’d like a more level head here to confirm.

Because if that’s the case, I’ll buy some GME. I’d never sell. What I bought was satisfaction. I’d print that paper and frame it.


I think the vast majority of short sellers in GME are TBTF, not gonna happen lol. At this point I'll just watch it moon for a day or two and then blowoff top would be my guess.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14136 Posts
January 28 2021 01:27 GMT
#1087
I don't know what'll happen but I'm still not going anywhere near this. I'm just happy to see Hedgies finally get whats coming to them for the 09 crash

r/WSB is back tho.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
January 28 2021 01:58 GMT
#1088
On January 28 2021 10:27 Vivax wrote:
I'd post what I think is mooning next, but isn't posting this in an online forum why WSB got dunked on in the first place?
It's a stonk in this dude's list (pretty easy to spot when finding the similarity to gme and having a glance at the chart).

https://www.shortsight.com/gamestop-shorts-down-5-billion-in-2021/

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On January 28 2021 10:22 hiro protagonist wrote:
What happens on Friday? Are the short sellers fucked? Is that when there loan is due? That’s what WSB keeps saying but I’d like a more level head here to confirm.

Because if that’s the case, I’ll buy some GME. I’d never sell. What I bought was satisfaction. I’d print that paper and frame it.


I think the vast majority of short sellers in GME are TBTF, not gonna happen lol. At this point I'll just watch it moon for a day or two and then blowoff top would be my guess.


Too big to fail or not, if the bill is due, someone is gonna have to pay. Surely they have some kind of collateral? Other stocks that will be sold to pay the bill? Or is the central bank supposed to step in? Seems unlikely that it would be such a high amount that it would shake up the rest of the market, so they won’t bother jumping in. So who will pay?
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
January 28 2021 02:09 GMT
#1089
What's this "gamma squeeze" I keep hearing about? Is that a Hulk move or something?

So this is Occupy Wall Street without the threat of being pepper sprayed or tear gassed? Nice, guess I'll buy some and just hold for the hell of it. Payback for 2008.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 02:13:01
January 28 2021 02:10 GMT
#1090
On January 28 2021 10:58 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2021 10:27 Vivax wrote:
I'd post what I think is mooning next, but isn't posting this in an online forum why WSB got dunked on in the first place?
It's a stonk in this dude's list (pretty easy to spot when finding the similarity to gme and having a glance at the chart).

https://www.shortsight.com/gamestop-shorts-down-5-billion-in-2021/

On January 28 2021 10:22 hiro protagonist wrote:
What happens on Friday? Are the short sellers fucked? Is that when there loan is due? That’s what WSB keeps saying but I’d like a more level head here to confirm.

Because if that’s the case, I’ll buy some GME. I’d never sell. What I bought was satisfaction. I’d print that paper and frame it.


I think the vast majority of short sellers in GME are TBTF, not gonna happen lol. At this point I'll just watch it moon for a day or two and then blowoff top would be my guess.


Too big to fail or not, if the bill is due, someone is gonna have to pay. Surely they have some kind of collateral? Other stocks that will be sold to pay the bill? Or is the central bank supposed to step in? Seems unlikely that it would be such a high amount that it would shake up the rest of the market, so they won’t bother jumping in. So who will pay?


The bill will be due, but insitutionals will always get a bailout if they don't have enough other stock to cover the losses, or they could bring down the entire market. Or at the very least they will sell the stock in dark pools.

A retail naked short in this is always screwed ofc, but they're insignificant.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
January 28 2021 02:12 GMT
#1091
I wonder if it's a good idea to short TSLA right now since the attention is finally diverted from it?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14136 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 02:54:05
January 28 2021 02:52 GMT
#1092
On January 28 2021 11:09 riotjune wrote:
What's this "gamma squeeze" I keep hearing about? Is that a Hulk move or something?

So this is Occupy Wall Street without the threat of being pepper sprayed or tear gassed? Nice, guess I'll buy some and just hold for the hell of it. Payback for 2008.

Basicaly if you "short a stock" and the stock goes up you have to buy the actual stock and pay the difference.

The problem is that they shorted WAY more than the "float" or commonly traded volume of stock which meant that they had to repeatedly raise their price to buy stock which caused the price to spike. Then things just kept cascadeing out of hand.

but yeah Anyone got odds for if the SEC steps in or we see a hedge fund go bankrupt in the next week?

I don't know if Biden has the balls to let whoever is involved with this fail but if he did I'll commit to volunteering for him or whoever he endorses while he's still alive.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1206 Posts
January 28 2021 03:13 GMT
#1093
On January 28 2021 11:52 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2021 11:09 riotjune wrote:
What's this "gamma squeeze" I keep hearing about? Is that a Hulk move or something?

So this is Occupy Wall Street without the threat of being pepper sprayed or tear gassed? Nice, guess I'll buy some and just hold for the hell of it. Payback for 2008.

Basicaly if you "short a stock" and the stock goes up you have to buy the actual stock and pay the difference.

The problem is that they shorted WAY more than the "float" or commonly traded volume of stock which meant that they had to repeatedly raise their price to buy stock which caused the price to spike. Then things just kept cascadeing out of hand.

but yeah Anyone got odds for if the SEC steps in or we see a hedge fund go bankrupt in the next week?

I don't know if Biden has the balls to let whoever is involved with this fail but if he did I'll commit to volunteering for him or whoever he endorses while he's still alive.

I really hope we just start seeing Hedge funds going bankrupt. Their tactics are just gross and profiting off of people's failures.
Flash should fear Sacsri
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 28 2021 03:14 GMT
#1094
On January 28 2021 11:12 BlackJack wrote:
I wonder if it's a good idea to short TSLA right now since the attention is finally diverted from it?


That's a bad idea. Tesla just had their sixth consecutive budget I think one prominent short just went bankrupt attempting the exact same thing several weeks ago.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
January 28 2021 03:35 GMT
#1095
On January 28 2021 09:38 Sermokala wrote:
WSB discord banned and the reddit put to private in a matter of minutes of each other oh gee whats the chances of that. Suddenly a ladder attack tries to tank the stock. the SEC won't investigate shit and we'll probably see congress pass something to stop this from happening ever again.


Some people are JUST NOW discovering Reddit admins, at least at the top, are elite shills

next step would be discovering their political stance, and how they selectively moderate content across entire platform to favor certain POVs. You might not be ready for this yet.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
January 28 2021 03:40 GMT
#1096
Apparently WSB Reddit went down cause of moderation issues or w/e. Hah.

But discord went down too. At the same time..,

Smells fishy as fuck but I’m all for giving the benefit of the doubt.
Skol
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 04:05:59
January 28 2021 03:51 GMT
#1097
On January 28 2021 11:12 BlackJack wrote:
I wonder if it's a good idea to short TSLA right now since the attention is finally diverted from it?


I think Tesla is a company you don't short, with merit.

If the world was to be ruled by a king and we threw out democracy, but took a vote who should be king, Musk would win.

The company is valued very highly, but it represents the future to the people, a vision. Imo, Tesla could justify a 3 Trillion market cap in the minds of some.

Shorting is like trying to climb up a waterslide, just find a different slide to go down instead. Buying an option and messing up and letting it go to zero is no big deal, you lose 10k but life moves on. Shorting fucks you mentally if you're wrong, trying to cover the position instead until you're bled dry. Unless you have some amazing hypothesis, going long is just better. Even if you're wrong you can still make money because stocks go up long term.

On January 28 2021 10:22 hiro protagonist wrote:
What happens on Friday? Are the short sellers fucked? Is that when there loan is due? That’s what WSB keeps saying but I’d like a more level head here to confirm.

Because if that’s the case, I’ll buy some GME. I’d never sell. What I bought was satisfaction. I’d print that paper and frame it.


Hard to get facts right now, WSB usually uses logic, but right now anything that doesn't get people to buy GME will be downvoted... And the short sellers also have their agenda, saying they closed many of their positions.

GME calls expire Friday, but not all of them, just some, which means they will be exercised, which means the positions need to be covered, ie shares purchased from the market driving the price up. We don't know if hedge funds sold naked calls, or if they were covered.

We don't know how large the short interest is, the hedge funds could have been stock piling a lot of GME stocks to cover their shorts. I mean, this is a once in a generation type of event that will have people rethink their approach to the market for a long time into the future. On my job site today, stock discussion was rampant, on the radio on my way to work, man. I still think a lot of the non-market players are getting in (which is why I have a six figure play in a meme stock)... It is exciting, cool to be part of the history, even if it's just a couple hundred bucks.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 28 2021 03:58 GMT
#1098
On January 28 2021 12:40 Emnjay808 wrote:
Apparently WSB Reddit went down cause of moderation issues or w/e. Hah.

But discord went down too. At the same time..,

Smells fishy as fuck but I’m all for giving the benefit of the doubt.


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
January 28 2021 04:07 GMT
#1099
Thank you for the explanation Sermokala. So many different ways to make money, but they are esoteric to me at best. Guess that's not a surprise considering they're the ones who write the rules.

As for Tesla, didn't Nancy Pelosi recently bet on TSLA by buying their stock because Biden was going to push for a government electric vehicle mandate or something? I don't know if I want to bet against her, government insider(ish) trading is everywhere.

In fact, this makes me want to help Elon Musk even more tbh, especially after that Gamestonk tweet. All those years of pent-up rage when his own company was shorted by the same hedge funds who kept their foot on his neck the entire time as they did GME, released in one tweet. Revenge is a dish best served cold!
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 04:40:55
January 28 2021 04:33 GMT
#1100
nice vid. its depressing when ur reminded how inept some elective officials are and how people try to take advantage of it.

edit: I need to rewatch that full interview of Chamath Palihapitiya again. CNBC is only showing clips of it now, ugh
Skol
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