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BlackJack
United States10338 Posts
On April 10 2025 04:43 SC-Shield wrote: Portfolio in green now, this is exactly why you don't sell in panic :D I guess people who sold at loss to "cut their losses" are furious now. Or they are relieved that less of their money is now risked on the whims of a fool | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany821 Posts
![[image loading]](https://preview.redd.it/90-day-delay-except-china-was-leaked-1-day-before-the-v0-x4j6j8uqgyte1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a0a7f7adf8f9895d05d5015e4734439d1d36019d) was 100% true... or just tested the water ![[image loading]](https://preview.redd.it/tinfoil-hat-alert-looks-like-insiders-got-a-20m-head-start-v0-pg8pcxd90vte1.jpeg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=433c3615779826b597bf4f2d26d658405bf47997) | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway643 Posts
Nvm, I read it completely wrong. Yeah, that looks fishy as fuck. | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway643 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4329 Posts
On April 11 2025 01:38 Timebon3s wrote: Nasdaq down 7%. I guess it was all for nothing. Yes, not sure why Apple rose 7% yesterday when the tariffs on China actually rose.Plus people thought the tariff was 125%, actually turns out it is 145% now. Anyway another new all time high for gold.The unpredicable nature of Trump is highly bullish for gold, gold miners really been doing well considering the turmoil of the past week or so. | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany821 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21508 Posts
On April 11 2025 07:19 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Probably the talk of a run on new iphones in the us in anticipating of said tariffs.Yes, not sure why Apple rose 7% yesterday when the tariffs on China actually rose.Plus people thought the tariff was 125%, actually turns out it is 145% now. Anyway another new all time high for gold.The unpredicable nature of Trump is highly bullish for gold, gold miners really been doing well considering the turmoil of the past week or so. Sure it doesn't make sense long term but the stock market is based on feelings not facts. | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway643 Posts
Trump backs down on tariffs on electronic. https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/12/tech/trump-electronics-china-tariffs/index.html Will we finally see a green Monday? I guess Apple will go hard on this. | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany821 Posts
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria817 Posts
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AAPL/apple/pe-ratio | ||
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Billyboy
687 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10338 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20005 Posts
On April 14 2025 00:38 Billyboy wrote: Things are going to bounce up on Monday, but then after who knows. So much of the stock market is feelings rather than math these days. And we also don't know what 5 opposing decisions and statements Trump is going to make/do by Wednesday. Unless you MGT and can invest before he says it, I'd suggest waiting it out. This is why I've been trading on vibes not "data" or "analytics" for the past month 😎 | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17236 Posts
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Billyboy
687 Posts
On April 14 2025 15:13 decafchicken wrote: This is why I've been trading on vibes not "data" or "analytics" for the past month 😎 Probably the best way to go! I just bowed out, but if I was still "playing" I would go with using my sense of smell. | ||
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Hat Trick of Today
81 Posts
On April 14 2025 17:29 Manit0u wrote: I guess that with Trump at the helm if you're not an inner circle insider US stock market is akin to playing slot machines. The only way you can play this game is to either pull all of your cash out and just wait like Warren Buffet or just play the game off pure vibes because the tariffs in general are just plain pants on head stupid. There's no logic in anything beyond the government trying to rug pull every retail investor until there are no retail investors anymore. Like you know the exemptions on electronics and shit that Trump announced? No one knows what the fuck is going on anymore but apparently those exceptions are only on the finished goods. This is legitimately the dumbest idea in the world and is only good for businesses that manufacture everything overseas like Apple. This literally kills domestic manufacturing and design who use overseas materials and prototyping to move up the value chain. These tariff exemptions are so brain dead that they practically end up subsidizing overseas manufacturing while kicking guys who actually do higher value manufacturing and design in the United States down the totem pole. There's no way to time anything when the administration responds so emotionally, is just this incompetent, and is so amazingly cowardly in many ways. Like you said, there's no way to win unless you're able to buy a dinner with the Trump Administration and convince them to carve out an exemptions with a large enough "gift offering". Jensen Huang and Tim Cook are showing us the blueprint, this administration is corrupt enough to accept "gifts". If you know about these dinners, then you're also the guy buying Apple stock a day before they get their exemptions. | ||
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pmh
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ETisME
12329 Posts
On April 15 2025 16:34 Hat Trick of Today wrote: The only way you can play this game is to either pull all of your cash out and just wait like Warren Buffet or just play the game off pure vibes because the tariffs in general are just plain pants on head stupid. There's no logic in anything beyond the government trying to rug pull every retail investor until there are no retail investors anymore. Like you know the exemptions on electronics and shit that Trump announced? No one knows what the fuck is going on anymore but apparently those exceptions are only on the finished goods. This is legitimately the dumbest idea in the world and is only good for businesses that manufacture everything overseas like Apple. This literally kills domestic manufacturing and design who use overseas materials and prototyping to move up the value chain. These tariff exemptions are so brain dead that they practically end up subsidizing overseas manufacturing while kicking guys who actually do higher value manufacturing and design in the United States down the totem pole. There's no way to time anything when the administration responds so emotionally, is just this incompetent, and is so amazingly cowardly in many ways. Like you said, there's no way to win unless you're able to buy a dinner with the Trump Administration and convince them to carve out an exemptions with a large enough "gift offering". Jensen Huang and Tim Cook are showing us the blueprint, this administration is corrupt enough to accept "gifts". If you know about these dinners, then you're also the guy buying Apple stock a day before they get their exemptions. Or just ride the volatility and forget about the noise. We aren't even near the level of GFC, that's really when anyone made the big bucks or missed out trying to time the market. Forget all the big headers in the news, plenty of companies are shifting production or shifting heavy investment in the US. The US needs to fix up its overreliance on the consumer market and not the manufacturing. And China having/had both manufacturing and smaller but large consumer is what US needs to become | ||
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Billyboy
687 Posts
On April 16 2025 08:32 ETisME wrote: Or just ride the volatility and forget about the noise. We aren't even near the level of GFC, that's really when anyone made the big bucks or missed out trying to time the market. Forget all the big headers in the news, plenty of companies are shifting production or shifting heavy investment in the US. The US needs to fix up its overreliance on the consumer market and not the manufacturing. And China having/had both manufacturing and smaller but large consumer is what US needs to become Can you source any of these companies shifting production or heavy investment in the US? Every thing I read, and everyone I know at different companies in Canada and in the US is holding off on any investments or changes. You can't forecast out this week let alone 6 months - 5 years. The closest thing I can think of is some people are carrying more inventory just so that they can price out future projects. But those are the kind of investments that "protect" you but don't have any future gains associated with them. | ||
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Hat Trick of Today
81 Posts
The US isn't China, you can see the logic in China (as a nation) putting their investments in specific things that helps keep them maintain a stranglehold on supply chains and manufacturing as a whole. Like the whole finished product exemptions. OK so you want to bring back manufacturing back the country, awesome. Then why are you punishing domestic manufacturers who use high end ALPS potentiometers or Japanese capacitors because that's the market expectation for quality? But also give foreign manufacturers exemptions to send a completely manufactured and assembled electronic product that undercuts said domestic manufacturer? The answer is that most of these domestic manufacturers can't be Jensen Huang and gift Trump tribute money in the form of "dinners". The whole tariff policy is pure incompetence but the exemptions are the type of cowardly and corrupt behavior done by an administration that doesn't even believe their own mission. Some businesses might move (or in Apple's case, pretend to move) production back to the United States in a way to curry favour with the current administration but can you say that the current administration is really doing anything to fix current and self imposed failings in US supply chains? | ||
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