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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18180 Posts
March 12 2025 20:41 GMT
#2861
Anybody got a tip for a good trading app for crypto? I was thinking I'd just use Revolut, but seems their fees are a bit high compared to other platforms. Kraken spams me with ads, but I heard Coinbase is the main one. What should I use?
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5739 Posts
March 15 2025 08:48 GMT
#2862
On February 25 2025 06:13 maybenexttime wrote:
Does anyone know a European defense ETF? The only one I managed to find (VanEck Defense UCITS) has a 60% US exposure. I'm looking for something exclusively European.

There is a new ETF bundling European defense companies: WisdomTree Europe Defence UCITS ETF - EUR Acc. It's available on Degiro and probably other platforms.

https://www.wisdomtree.eu/en-gb/etfs/thematic/wdef---wisdomtree-europe-defence-ucits-etf---eur-acc
https://www.reddit.com/r/DEGIRO/comments/1jb24gg/new_european_defense_etf_now_tradable_on_degiro/
Robert_Adams
Profile Joined March 2025
1 Post
March 19 2025 13:40 GMT
#2863
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miracleprivechicvgo
Profile Joined March 2025
1 Post
March 20 2025 23:11 GMT
#2864
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bettih
Profile Joined March 2025
2 Posts
March 22 2025 02:43 GMT
#2865
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23569 Posts
April 03 2025 14:23 GMT
#2866
Odds on triggering a circuit breaker?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14073 Posts
April 03 2025 19:47 GMT
#2867
On April 03 2025 23:23 GreenHorizons wrote:
Odds on triggering a circuit breaker?

I had to look it up but no chance 7% (Level 1), 13% (Level 2) and 20% (Level 3) are the circuit breakers and only the 20% ends trading for the day. That would be down 3k just to get to a water break. Now the NASDAQ is getting to 6% as I type this but its close to the end of the day so the level 1 might just be symbolic if anything.

Its going to be something to watch to see if we go below the 40k threshold tomorrow.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20105 Posts
April 03 2025 20:48 GMT
#2868
Sold all the puts i bought before trumps speech at market open for only 300% gain instead of holding on to them for 500%
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14073 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-04 20:14:32
April 04 2025 16:22 GMT
#2869
Christ today looks even worse than yesterday. Punched through 39k now twice.

Edit: it looks like the bleeding will stop at -1600.

Second edit: oh god it got worse we're at -1800 now and an hour and a half left in tradeing

Third edit: its at 1900 I would start praying it doesn't get past 2k.

fourth edit: 2k now seems inevidable and we're still an hour and a half till close. Historic day

final edit:2.2k I just can't
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20105 Posts
April 04 2025 21:19 GMT
#2870
Forgot I was holding 525 puts in my IRA. They're deep in the money at +1100% Fucking insanity.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria835 Posts
April 04 2025 21:25 GMT
#2871
It feels like 2022 at stock market already, but I made mistakes then to trade often. This time I'm going to buy shares of my favourite companies at discounted prices and hold. I'll try at least. :D
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway756 Posts
April 05 2025 13:46 GMT
#2872
Lost about $60.000 from Trumps tariff shit. All my savings are allocated in global index funds.
I am very sad now xD
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14073 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-07 16:36:04
April 07 2025 13:42 GMT
#2873
Well we are in the decisive day for our future. If we have an equal day to the end of last week we will be in great depression history of trends. Just starting out of the box with a near 4% drop is really bad but the numbers coming out internationally look even worse.

Edit wow the market is actually rallying against all evidence to the contrary. we're under a thousand down for the day.

Second edit: the most likely outcome happens as always, nothing ever happens and a small loss is all that occurs. going down a percent and a half is a bad day for most weeks but we are still about a thousand up from the 52 week low.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway756 Posts
April 07 2025 14:08 GMT
#2874
Keep in mind that almost everyone who has sold, are waiting on the fence to go back in. It's just a matter of timing.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43444 Posts
April 07 2025 14:11 GMT
#2875
Asian markets opened -10% today because they were closed on Friday when Trump declared he was fucking everything up. Whereas US markets were still open on Friday and did a -6% then. The -4% at open today got it the rest of the way. The rally back up to -2% today is still a -8% drop on the announcement.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5816 Posts
April 07 2025 14:18 GMT
#2876
QQQ up 6% in the span of six minutes.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43444 Posts
April 07 2025 14:19 GMT
#2877
On April 07 2025 23:08 Timebon3s wrote:
Keep in mind that almost everyone who has sold, are waiting on the fence to go back in. It's just a matter of timing.

This is a very weird idea if we consider the implications.

The traditional thesis is that share valuation reflects fundamentals, if a business makes a lot of money then its shares are worth a lot because you buy a share of the business to get a share of the profits. If a business does not make a lot of money then its shares aren't worth as much. If a business that previously made a lot of money stops making money and will not make money again in the foreseeable future then its shares should not recover.

Therefore if real damage is done to profitability through the erection of artificial trade barriers that break established logistics networks, dramatically increase costs, depress consumer demand, and force huge amounts of capital investment to work around then the share price must go down. After all, a business that loses money cannot be worth as much as one that makes money.

Your thesis is that there is essentially a fixed pool of money and no alternative use for it. It can either be held in shares or held in cash and the preference is for it to be held in shares. Therefore a share price drop reflects nothing about fundamentals, it reflects only that speculators are reallocating from shares to cash for a short term trade. They will inevitably return to shares at some point, regardless of the fundamentals of the business at hand.

Nike make shoes in Vietnam. The US has declared that tariffs on all imports from Vietnam will be increased by 46%. That will make Nike more expensive and less competitive in the US. Their share price has dropped 11% since the announcement. Assuming that the tariffs stay in place why would this be a timing issue rather than a fundamentals issue?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway756 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-07 18:25:01
April 07 2025 18:19 GMT
#2878
This is why I prefer technical over fundamental analysis.
I'm a firm believer that people don't really give a fuck about how a company is actually doing, they're just interested if its going up or down. Just look at tesla and bitcoin for that sake.

Sure, one stock here and there will not return to where it was, which is why I never buy single stocks, I just buy index funds.
And if a stock goes to shit, a different one will take its place.

I have yet to hear from one person who's out for good. Its either people trying to time the markets, or people who are long.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1376 Posts
April 07 2025 18:19 GMT
#2879
I get what Timebon3s is saying. Not at all arguing with your reasoning just that this is not a situation based on reason. The market if it actually trusted Trump to follow through on this it would be even a way bigger blood bath (the damage is no where near priced in). But we are being asked to try to put a number (chances Trump actually follows through) to someone completely unpredictable that does not even have any consistent values other than wanting all the attention.

I know there is a whole bunch of investors who are simply waiting for Trump to change his mind and "buy the dip", and at this point I believe large institutional investors are in the same boat, you can't model Trumps insanity. He has in a way turned the world markets into Meme stocks.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8681 Posts
April 07 2025 19:47 GMT
#2880
On April 07 2025 23:18 oBlade wrote:
QQQ up 6% in the span of six minutes.


and now we know why.

On April 08 2025 02:31 KT_Elwood wrote:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/stock-markets-drop-rumor-trump-pause-tariffs-1235311713/

Journlism is now reading twitter..which can be faked... and professional stock trading is reading that journalism.

Check Intraday from tweet to Trillion dollar market mistakes based on misleading "Verified tweets"

https://markets.businessinsider.com/index/s&p_500


I demand that we move wallstreet to the roblox economy to make it make more sense.

I feel cheeky and just gonna steal this post from the US pol thread. more people need to see this.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
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