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pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
July 08 2003 14:27 GMT
#81
Damn guys you act like they banned zealots.... actually they should ban zeals YEAH! Ban zeals gogogo, ps lol Haltoss
Good...Bad... Im the guy with the gun
Zurtle
Profile Joined July 2003
United States5 Posts
July 08 2003 14:32 GMT
#82
Ban manner pylon because the mineral placement is an imbalance?
Who the fuck would defend this? Has it even occurred to you how many imbalances there are in any given map? If you want perfect balance you might as well be playing Zero Clutter, of course that's also imbalanced since the middle positions can be attacked from 3 sides, and the corners only from 2 sides, UH OH. Blizzard designed the maps to be imbalanced, to create diversity of strategy. Use your God given brains for crying out loud.
Use brain then type
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 08 2003 14:33 GMT
#83
On July 08 2003 21:10 bigMommA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2003 20:25 FrozenArbiter wrote:
<^>(-_-)<^>
Btw you should see the chinese character ( I think) that looks just like a middle finger :D


oh you mean this ?
damn i thought it was a chinese character too until my math teacher covered + - chapter lol


"oh you mean this ?" Only see a questionmark, and no I am fairly certain that we are not talking about the same thing since I have been told it is indeed a chinese character(when asking how to write it ;().
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 08 2003 14:39 GMT
#84
On July 08 2003 23:32 Zurtle wrote:
Ban manner pylon because the mineral placement is an imbalance?
Who the fuck would defend this? Has it even occurred to you how many imbalances there are in any given map? If you want perfect balance you might as well be playing Zero Clutter, of course that's also imbalanced since the middle positions can be attacked from 3 sides, and the corners only from 2 sides, UH OH. Blizzard designed the maps to be imbalanced, to create diversity of strategy. Use your God given brains for crying out loud.


Maybe thats why pro gamers DONT PLAY BLIZZARD MAPS?
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
July 08 2003 14:44 GMT
#85
That's why no league or map editor has ever spread the minerals out like a jackass?
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
July 08 2003 15:35 GMT
#86
Yeah Marshall, your 1 gate + allowing him to manner pylon (attacking it with 1) sounds really good vs 2 gates =[
h e l l o e
AstroMech
Profile Joined June 2003
United States58 Posts
July 08 2003 16:47 GMT
#87
whoa look, its zurtle!
A loss is a win, as long as you learn from it.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28739 Posts
July 08 2003 17:36 GMT
#88
marshall you do realize that if you do not immediately kill the pylons, then he doesn't end up losing minerals for them until after they are dead. (as he GETS SUPPLIES FROM THEM THUS DOES NOT HAVE TO BUILD ANY IN HIS MAIN, for those of you completely lacking brood war understanding. ) so basically you limit yourself to 6 mineral fields and two probes less (if he did two pylons) when both players are two-gating. yeah good fucking luck defending. and if you send zealots home you lose pylon supporting gate or a gateway..

basically
there's no use having this discussion as mannerpylon will stay banned no matter what! and this subject is something I am _incredibly_ stubborn about, so I won't change my mind, thus nazgul won't either as he listens to every word I speak. (and trek, I read that your goal was just creating the discussion, so im not accusing you of wasting your time, as you've obviously succeeded with your goal. )
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 08 2003 17:49 GMT
#89
On July 08 2003 23:32 Zurtle wrote:
Ban manner pylon because the mineral placement is an imbalance?
Who the fuck would defend this? Has it even occurred to you how many imbalances there are in any given map? If you want perfect balance you might as well be playing Zero Clutter, of course that's also imbalanced since the middle positions can be attacked from 3 sides, and the corners only from 2 sides, UH OH. Blizzard designed the maps to be imbalanced, to create diversity of strategy. Use your God given brains for crying out loud.

tich me bw
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Marshall
Profile Joined December 2002
United States234 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-07-08 17:58:46
July 08 2003 17:57 GMT
#90
I would tell you what I think of you, but I just cant express myself monosyllabically enough for you to understand me : [
InSideOut
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada1035 Posts
July 08 2003 18:01 GMT
#91
yeh w/e
Marshall
Profile Joined December 2002
United States234 Posts
July 08 2003 18:02 GMT
#92
On July 09 2003 02:36 Liquid`Drone wrote:
marshall you do realize that if you do not immediately kill the pylons, then he doesn't end up losing minerals for them until after they are dead. (as he GETS SUPPLIES FROM THEM THUS DOES NOT HAVE TO BUILD ANY IN HIS MAIN, for those of you completely lacking brood war understanding. ) so basically you limit yourself to 6 mineral fields and two probes less (if he did two pylons) when both players are two-gating. yeah good fucking luck defending. and if you send zealots home you lose pylon supporting gate or a gateway..

basically
there's no use having this discussion as mannerpylon will stay banned no matter what! and this subject is something I am _incredibly_ stubborn about, so I won't change my mind, thus nazgul won't either as he listens to every word I speak. (and trek, I read that your goal was just creating the discussion, so im not accusing you of wasting your time, as you've obviously succeeded with your goal. )


(for drone since he lacks brood war understanding) you will get supply from them thats true, but once they are dying/about to die you will need to rebuild them in your main to be able to keep up with production ... meaning you have to build twice as many pylons, plus the fact that u use that 200 minerals early that you should be spending on zeals ... so you will have fewer zeals early game making it _EASIER_ for me to stop your rush... and i wont be limiting myself to 6 fields, miners mine from the back also, and i will only have 1 probe stuck in each assuming 2 pylons are built... the reason ill be able to hold it is because you cant build enough zeals fast enough to stop a 1 gate gas .. you couldnt do it even if you 9/10ed me and i 1 gate gassed in these positions.

i really dont care about this either, i just like arguing for the sake of arguing lol..
I would tell you what I think of you, but I just cant express myself monosyllabically enough for you to understand me : [
Marshall
Profile Joined December 2002
United States234 Posts
July 08 2003 18:05 GMT
#93
why do you think ive been saying this whole time that this helps the person being manner pyloned rather than the person using the manner pylon ... not only will i be able to tech much much faster, but i will also have a much easier time stopping your zeal rush, AND you will be wasting 200 minerals which just puts you behind even more than you already will be...it just makes 12/3 pvp from 12 that much easier for me : [
I would tell you what I think of you, but I just cant express myself monosyllabically enough for you to understand me : [
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 08 2003 18:08 GMT
#94
Faulk I doubt ANY bw player considered good agrees with you

better to just shut up
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Zurtle
Profile Joined July 2003
United States5 Posts
July 08 2003 18:14 GMT
#95
I'll Tich you BW ok?
Use brain then type
pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
July 08 2003 18:26 GMT
#96
Also if you attack the pylons with your zealots, guess what they aren't doing... you got it, defending you ramp.
Good...Bad... Im the guy with the gun
TreKbanned
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden50 Posts
July 08 2003 19:43 GMT
#97
if he gets his scvs/probes out i think u lose on making "Mannerpylons"..if u actually suceed in building them which is kinda hard since its hard enough just for urself to build something in ur own peon line..
if u trap them and the player ur playing dont know how to untrap them u gain alot..
i dont know who said u have to stand still with 2 probes to provent it...but why u have to do that? if he stand with his probe IN your peon line...just attack it with all ur probes?
if he's standing a bit outside that's gr8...u dont need to block "his" building site..
But sure ;] nuff said i guess if someone really suceeded in doing this vs me i'd be kinda angry(too)...
-.-V
Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
July 08 2003 20:33 GMT
#98
Wait, someone help poor confuzzled me... Who's Marshall? Faulk? Bci)Marshall? Does Faulk = BCIMarshall?? Or is he someone else!
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
July 08 2003 20:40 GMT
#99
BCi)MARSHALLfaulk
why so 진지해?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 08 2003 21:10 GMT
#100
people have actually dont experiments on this
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