if you seriously can't handle a manner pylon, that is pretty pathetic. i encourage people to manner pylon me when im at 12, it costs them 100 minerals and i always have no trouble getting all of my probes out except 1 at each spot... seriously, its stupid to not want someone to waste 200 minerals in order for me to stop 2 probes from mining for 45 seconds ...it takes away their chance at any decent zeal rush and it slows their tech considerably. its flat out stupid to think this effects the person being pyloned in a negative way. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IT PUTS THE PERSON DOING IT AT A DISADVANTAGE, NOT THE PERSON RECEIVING IT ... now please tell me how this rule is helping the people who get manner pyloned?

and btw ...kiddie is a moron, he doesnt know how to vs manner pylon, dont judge this based on the way he countered it ... (dying). i never lose a game to a manner pylon, ive lost games which went longer, but never because of that manner pylon, however im sure i win many more games when it is done to me than i lose

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

July 08 2003 12:07 GMT

#63

If something can be fixed to make the game more balanced, why in the name of fuck is anyone complaining about it. I questioned it at first because I thought it inconsequential, and even now I think it is a small issue(even though im 100% sure I lost a game to drone because of it), but why in the name of all that is holy IS ANYONE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.

YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT IS IMBALANCED???

bigMommA

1985 Posts

July 08 2003 12:10 GMT

#64

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lastas

Sweden1219 Posts

July 08 2003 12:33 GMT

#65

so map unbalances are to be destroyed? lets remove 9 totally, since 9 terran can wall in better then the other ones

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

July 08 2003 12:40 GMT

#66

Guess what, that doesn't cause people to win or lose a game because people can adapt to it. You can't adapt to mannerpylon without falling behind.

(and if it was my opinion, no one would play LT at all, because it ISNT balanced, and thats not right)

TreKbanned

Sweden50 Posts

July 08 2003 13:02 GMT

#67

ive never seen anyone DIE cause of the mannerpylon in a skilled vs skilled game i cant see how u lose to it even if u let some1 build the mannerpylon u can still get the probes that are stuck out of there and they can still mine...
"so map unbalances are to be destroyed? lets remove 9 totally, since 9 terran can wall in better then the other ones"
that was a great example!
since that is the only pos that cant be lingrushed without have to make extra buldings for full wall.
ive seen more ppl lose cause u can full wall there than i have seen fuckers die vs mannerpylons

TreKbanned

Sweden50 Posts

July 08 2003 13:04 GMT

#68

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Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

July 08 2003 13:12 GMT

#69

if it was up to me I would. But it is easier to ban it than fix the map, and I agree with their decision. And as I said, if it was up to me, LT would either be balanced or never used.

And Manner pylon can be used on maps other than LT. Mannerpylon can be used on 100% otherwise balanced maps.

Marshall

United States234 Posts

July 08 2003 13:18 GMT

#70

i maintain my original point ... MANNERPYLON SUCKS, IT PUTS WHOEVER USES IT BEHIND, and you didnt lose that game to drone because of it kiddie, you lost to drone because you got confused and didnt realize "hes gonna zealot rush me, oh i have to block my ramp" not to mention the fact that you attacked the pylon with like 6 probes and he didnt even finish the building...so it stopped 6 probes (really only shoulda stopped 1 probe if you were smart) from mining for 30 seconds ... him waiting for that extra 100 minerals when he cancelled the pylon should have given you WAY WAY more time than you needed to prepare for his zeal rush ... : [ ill 1 gate from 12, you mannerpylon me and ill stop your rush then beat u in the next 10 minutes. : [

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

July 08 2003 13:22 GMT

#71

Marshall If I don't attack it with like 6 probes then he wouldn't have canceled it and it would have fucked me even harder.

And I didnt block my ramp because Im used to being able to have more zealots than my enemy when my enemy gets there, and therefore crushing their force once they come up.

NerO

United States2071 Posts

July 08 2003 13:40 GMT

#72

does this mean manner depot is allowed?

NerO

United States2071 Posts

July 08 2003 13:45 GMT

#73

wait how bout we ban everything with the name manner from TLTour that would set up a great tour eh?

Yooper

United States155 Posts

July 08 2003 14:04 GMT

#74

What the hell are mannerpylons

Marshall

United States234 Posts

July 08 2003 14:06 GMT

#75

travis ... why do you always think you are right? lol ... i explained why u shouldnt attack it with 6 probes with my first post ... and u didnt block your ramp because you were confused ... i dont care what you are used to lol...

so you are saying "im used to being able to stop a muta rush with my 1 build, but if they 1 hatch muta ill just lose to it cuz 'IM USED TO MUTA COMING LATER" .... lol dude please give us all a break

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

July 08 2003 14:09 GMT

#76

I'm claiming I wouldn't have died in the first 10 minutes of that game if it wasn't for that mannerpylon.

I don't disagree I should have blocked the ramp.

Yooper

United States155 Posts

July 08 2003 14:10 GMT

#77

travis go read my help post plz