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On April 27 2026 04:15 dyhb wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2026 02:12 Sermokala wrote:On April 26 2026 18:11 dyhb wrote:On April 26 2026 13:20 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 26 2026 10:56 KwarK wrote: Presumably the latest in a series of time travelers trying to kill Trump. Secret Service never reveal any details on the shooters because of the implication. Is this something that will be like the time his ear was shot off and magically healed without any deformation? Or the time some guy just happened to be walking near his golf course the exact time he was there with a weapon? Or that one time... Assassination attempts always bring out the crazies… Although if you’re gonna go there, you might as well go full Jewish space lasers and gay frogs prove a depopulation agenda. Or imagine there's a massive election fraud conspiracy going on that justifies taking away millions of peoples ability to vote. Absolutely, and don't forget that the 2000 election was stolen as well! It would be just insane to point out how many republican attorneys that were working on that case ended up becoming supreme court justices.
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California's Teacher of the Month sent a manifesto just before charging the Hilton ballroom, which has already been released in full by the NY post.
In it, he: 1) makes a strong case for the new East Wing ballroom 2) derides others for displaying arrogance and incompetence, before failing to martyr himself or inflict a single casualty at all among his named targets 3) says he's okay with shooting journalists if necessary because they are complicit for attending a dinner 4) says maybe he shouldn't be the one to do this since he's mixed race (?) - not sure if this meant he thought the white part of himself should stay out of the lane or what 5) says he will spare Kash Patel only (more racialist thinking, although there are recent rumors Kash is to be out soon like Bondi) 6) profusely apologizes and expressions confliction indicating he knows what he's doing is wrong and ashamed he radicalized himself just to apply for a Darwin award
+ Show Spoiler +Hello everybody!
So I may have given a lot of people a surprise today. Let me start off by apologizing to everyone whose trust I abused.
I apologize to my parents for saying I had an interview without specifying it was for “Most Wanted.”
I apologize to my colleagues and students for saying I had a personal emergency (by the time anyone reads this, I probably most certainly DO need to go to the ER, but can hardly call that not a self-inflicted status.)
I apologize to all of the people I traveled next to, all the workers who handled my luggage, and all the other non-targeted people at the hotel who I put in danger simply by being near.
I apologize to everyone who was abused and/or murdered before this, to all those who suffered before I was able to attempt this, to all who may still suffer after, regardless of my success or failure.
I don’t expect forgiveness, but if I could have seen any other way to get this close, I would have taken it. Again, my sincere apologies.
On to why I did any of this:
I am a citizen of the United States of America.
What my representatives do reflects on me.
A man in a graduation cap and gown with a "Class of 2025" stole sitting outdoors.
And I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes.
(Well, to be completely honest, I was no longer willing a long time ago, but this is the first real opportunity I’ve had to do something about it.)
While I’m discussing this, I’ll also go over my expected rules of engagement (probably in a terrible format, but I’m not military so too bad.)
Administration officials (not including Mr. Patel): they are targets, prioritized from highest-ranking to lowest
Secret Service: they are targets only if necessary, and to be incapacitated non-lethally if possible (aka, I hope they’re wearing body armor because center mass with shotguns messes up people who *aren’t*
Hotel Security: not targets if at all possible (aka unless they shoot at me)
Capitol Police: same as Hotel Security
National Guard: same as Hotel Security
Hotel Employees: not targets at all
Guests: not targets at all
In order to minimize casualties I will also be using buckshot rather than slugs (less penetration through walls)
I would still go through most everyone here to get to the targets if it were absolutely necessary (on the basis that most people *chose* to attend a speech by a pedophile, rapist, and traitor, and are thus complicit) but I really hope it doesn’t come to that.
Rebuttals to objections: Objection 1: As a Christian, you should turn the other cheek.
Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed. I’m not the person raped in a detention camp. I’m not the fisherman executed without trial. I’m not a schoolkid blown up or a child starved or a teenage girl abused by the many criminals in this administration.
Turning the other cheek when *someone else* is oppressed is not Christian behavior; it is complicity in the oppressor’s crimes.
Objection 2: This is not a convenient time for you to do this.
Rebuttal: I need whoever thinks this way to take a couple minutes and realize that the world isn’t about them. Do you think that when I see someone raped or murdered or abused, I should walk on by because it would be “inconvenient” for people who aren’t the victim?
This was the best timing and chance of success I could come up with.
Objection 3: You didn’t get them all.
Rebuttal: Gotta start somewhere.
Objection 4: As a half-black, half-white person, you shouldn’t be the one doing this.
Rebuttal: I don’t see anyone else picking up the slack
Objection 5: Yield unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.
Rebuttal: The United States of America are ruled by the law, not by any one or several people. In so far as representatives and judges do not follow the law, no one is required to yield them anything so unlawfully ordered.
I would also like to extend my appreciation to a great many people since I will not be likely to be able to talk with them again (unless the Secret Service is *astoundingly* incompetent.)
Thank you to my family, both personal and church, for your love over these 31 years.
Thank you to my friends, for your companionship over many years.
Thank you to my colleagues over many jobs, for your positivity and professionalism.
Thank you to my students for your enthusiasm and love of learning.
Thank you to the many acquaintances I’ve met, in person and online, for short interactions and long-term relationships, for your perspectives and inspiration.
Thank you all for everything.
Sincerely,
Cole “coldForce” “Friendly Federal Assassin” Allen
PS: Ok now that all the sappy stuff is done, what the hell is the Secret Service doing? Sorry, gonna rant a bit here and drop the formal tone.
Like, I expected security cameras at every bend, bugged hotel rooms, armed agents every 10 feet, metal detectors out the wazoo.
What I got (who knows, maybe they’re pranking me!) is nothing.
No damn security.
Not in transport.
Not in the hotel.
Not in the event.
Like, the one thing that I immediately noticed walking into the hotel is the sense of arrogance.
I walk in with multiple weapons and not a single person there considers the possibility that I could be a threat.
The security at the event is all outside, focused on protestors and current arrivals, because apparently no one thought about what happens if someone checks in the day before.
Like, this level of incompetence is insane, and I very sincerely hope it’s corrected by the time this country gets actually competent leadership again.
Like, if I was an Iranian agent, instead of an American citizen, I could have brought a damn Ma Deuce in here and no one would have noticed shit.
Actually insane.
Oh and if anyone is curious is how doing something like feels: it’s awful. I want to throw up; I want to cry for all the things I wanted to do and never will, for all the people whose trust this betrays; I experience rage thinking about everything this administration has done.
Can’t really recommend it! Stay in school, kids.
Coupled with the unhinged social media footprint of "coldforce" and the fact that he will be singing like a canary after being caught and immediately charged, this should put to rest the suggestion the attack was a false flag that involved depriving Trump of the valuable chance to roast a captive audience of liberal journalists for an hour. But if someone believes it's a conspiracy that Trump got and recovered from covid in 2020, at a certain point you can't even lead a horse to water.
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On April 27 2026 04:29 oBlade wrote:California's Teacher of the Month sent a manifesto just before charging the Hilton ballroom, which has already been released in full by the NY post.In it, he: 1) makes a strong case for the new East Wing ballroom 2) derides others for displaying arrogance and incompetence, before failing to martyr himself or inflict a single casualty at all among his named targets 3) says he's okay with shooting journalists if necessary because they are complicit for attending a dinner 4) says maybe he shouldn't be the one to do this since he's mixed race (?) - not sure if this meant he thought the white part of himself should stay out of the lane or what 5) says he will spare Kash Patel only (more racialist thinking, although there are recent rumors Kash is to be out soon like Bondi) 6) profusely apologizes and expressions confliction indicating he knows what he's doing is wrong and ashamed he radicalized himself just to apply for a Darwin award + Show Spoiler +Hello everybody!
So I may have given a lot of people a surprise today. Let me start off by apologizing to everyone whose trust I abused.
I apologize to my parents for saying I had an interview without specifying it was for “Most Wanted.”
I apologize to my colleagues and students for saying I had a personal emergency (by the time anyone reads this, I probably most certainly DO need to go to the ER, but can hardly call that not a self-inflicted status.)
I apologize to all of the people I traveled next to, all the workers who handled my luggage, and all the other non-targeted people at the hotel who I put in danger simply by being near.
I apologize to everyone who was abused and/or murdered before this, to all those who suffered before I was able to attempt this, to all who may still suffer after, regardless of my success or failure.
I don’t expect forgiveness, but if I could have seen any other way to get this close, I would have taken it. Again, my sincere apologies.
On to why I did any of this:
I am a citizen of the United States of America.
What my representatives do reflects on me.
A man in a graduation cap and gown with a "Class of 2025" stole sitting outdoors.
And I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes.
(Well, to be completely honest, I was no longer willing a long time ago, but this is the first real opportunity I’ve had to do something about it.)
While I’m discussing this, I’ll also go over my expected rules of engagement (probably in a terrible format, but I’m not military so too bad.)
Administration officials (not including Mr. Patel): they are targets, prioritized from highest-ranking to lowest
Secret Service: they are targets only if necessary, and to be incapacitated non-lethally if possible (aka, I hope they’re wearing body armor because center mass with shotguns messes up people who *aren’t*
Hotel Security: not targets if at all possible (aka unless they shoot at me)
Capitol Police: same as Hotel Security
National Guard: same as Hotel Security
Hotel Employees: not targets at all
Guests: not targets at all
In order to minimize casualties I will also be using buckshot rather than slugs (less penetration through walls)
I would still go through most everyone here to get to the targets if it were absolutely necessary (on the basis that most people *chose* to attend a speech by a pedophile, rapist, and traitor, and are thus complicit) but I really hope it doesn’t come to that.
Rebuttals to objections: Objection 1: As a Christian, you should turn the other cheek.
Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed. I’m not the person raped in a detention camp. I’m not the fisherman executed without trial. I’m not a schoolkid blown up or a child starved or a teenage girl abused by the many criminals in this administration.
Turning the other cheek when *someone else* is oppressed is not Christian behavior; it is complicity in the oppressor’s crimes.
Objection 2: This is not a convenient time for you to do this.
Rebuttal: I need whoever thinks this way to take a couple minutes and realize that the world isn’t about them. Do you think that when I see someone raped or murdered or abused, I should walk on by because it would be “inconvenient” for people who aren’t the victim?
This was the best timing and chance of success I could come up with.
Objection 3: You didn’t get them all.
Rebuttal: Gotta start somewhere.
Objection 4: As a half-black, half-white person, you shouldn’t be the one doing this.
Rebuttal: I don’t see anyone else picking up the slack
Objection 5: Yield unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.
Rebuttal: The United States of America are ruled by the law, not by any one or several people. In so far as representatives and judges do not follow the law, no one is required to yield them anything so unlawfully ordered.
I would also like to extend my appreciation to a great many people since I will not be likely to be able to talk with them again (unless the Secret Service is *astoundingly* incompetent.)
Thank you to my family, both personal and church, for your love over these 31 years.
Thank you to my friends, for your companionship over many years.
Thank you to my colleagues over many jobs, for your positivity and professionalism.
Thank you to my students for your enthusiasm and love of learning.
Thank you to the many acquaintances I’ve met, in person and online, for short interactions and long-term relationships, for your perspectives and inspiration.
Thank you all for everything.
Sincerely,
Cole “coldForce” “Friendly Federal Assassin” Allen
PS: Ok now that all the sappy stuff is done, what the hell is the Secret Service doing? Sorry, gonna rant a bit here and drop the formal tone.
Like, I expected security cameras at every bend, bugged hotel rooms, armed agents every 10 feet, metal detectors out the wazoo.
What I got (who knows, maybe they’re pranking me!) is nothing.
No damn security.
Not in transport.
Not in the hotel.
Not in the event.
Like, the one thing that I immediately noticed walking into the hotel is the sense of arrogance.
I walk in with multiple weapons and not a single person there considers the possibility that I could be a threat.
The security at the event is all outside, focused on protestors and current arrivals, because apparently no one thought about what happens if someone checks in the day before.
Like, this level of incompetence is insane, and I very sincerely hope it’s corrected by the time this country gets actually competent leadership again.
Like, if I was an Iranian agent, instead of an American citizen, I could have brought a damn Ma Deuce in here and no one would have noticed shit.
Actually insane.
Oh and if anyone is curious is how doing something like feels: it’s awful. I want to throw up; I want to cry for all the things I wanted to do and never will, for all the people whose trust this betrays; I experience rage thinking about everything this administration has done.
Can’t really recommend it! Stay in school, kids. Coupled with the unhinged social media footprint of "coldforce" and the fact that he will be singing like a canary after being caught and immediately charged, this should put to rest the suggestion the attack was a false flag that involved depriving Trump of the valuable chance to roast a captive audience of liberal journalists for an hour. But if someone believes it's a conspiracy that Trump got and recovered from covid in 2020, at a certain point you can't even lead a horse to water.
Nothing will be put to rest as you well know. 
Isn't it curious that the secret service has failed so spectacularly in preventing attacks in Trumps second term? Either they have become incompetent at finding these guys before they strike. Or maybe they aren't incompetent...?
This post brought to you by someone who finds it hilarious that Republicans have no issues with daily fake news and conspiracy theory posts on their stomping ground (granted I can usually only verify the ones about Europe or the rest of the world because they are so obviously wrong) but oh so upset when the conspiracy theories goes the other way around.
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On April 27 2026 03:38 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2026 02:31 WombaT wrote:On April 26 2026 17:01 EnDeR_ wrote:I was just reading this article theconversation.comAnd found it to be well worth a read. It's well sourced and thought-provoking. The main theme is about loss of scientific leadership, China now outspends the US in absolute terms in scientific research, produces twice as many patents and is set to continue to increase. The US on the other hand is restricting the influx of researchers while simultaneously reducing its spending. Here are some nice quotes: U.S. scientific and technological leadership was nurtured by sustained public investment in research universities and federal laboratories, as well as a culture of open inquiry. These investments turned scientific discovery into economic strength – accounting for more than 20% of all U.S. productivity growth since World War II. The most recent reports showing that China is now outspending the U.S. on scientific and technological research is a turning point worth understanding clearly because, historically, global leadership in one sector – including technology and warfare – feeds into others. U.S. dominance is in question. the active restriction of scientific exchange: tightening access to U.S. institutions, scrutinizing international collaborations and raising barriers to foreign-born researchers. These policies, though intended as security measures, work against the openness that has historically made American science productive and attractive to global talent.
I describe this issue as an example of the stockyard paradox, in which securing research assets may weaken the very system these measures aim to protect. The deeper danger for the U.S. economy is that disinvestment and selective engagement in research erodes the capacity to use cutting-edge science regardless of where it is produced.
Absorbing and applying cutting-edge knowledge, whether developed in Boston or Beijing, requires maintaining research institutions and trained workforces, as well as active participation in global networks. This is not a passive process. You cannot free-ride on Chinese science if you have dismantled the institutional and human capital needed to evaluate, translate and apply it.
A nation that hollows out its research base not only falls behind but also progressively loses its ability to benefit from science, including in technologies it is already able to access. Does the U.S. still want to lead in science? The Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, a nonprofit think tank, estimates that a 20% cut in federal research and development starting in fiscal year 2026 would shrink the U.S. economy by nearly $1 trillion over 10 years and reduce tax revenue by around $250 billion. Others point out that the scientific enterprise has contributed at least half of U.S. economic growth.
That is a lot to lose. Yay a new (and interesting) topic, much obliged! If I had a criticism of this article, there ain’t much delving into the why and I’d be quite interested to see a bit more analysis there. Obviously it’s rather good on the ‘what’ and ‘how’ aspects. I mean for example is the US starting to drop a bit because of intentional policy, or is it more a case of complacency of the form ‘we’re America we’re where the talent wants to go, so we don’t necessarily need to invest to maintain that status or what have you. More broadly speaking, it feels a huge area that general public sentiment tends to overlooked in terms of hot political topics. Now, the UK ain’t China or the US, it does a punch pretty damn hard. Argh, I haven’t mentioned Brexit for ages but here we go! It felt in that lead-in people were extremely blasé about the UK’s RnD being at least somewhat jeopardised by what Brexit (esp. a hard one) entailed. It’s a somewhat strange oversight to me, do people just think world class scientists and institution spring from the ether or something? I don’t think there’s much dispute that to produce world class sportspeople, the individual generally needs to put in years and years of graft, and (generally) needs to be ensconced in systems and leagues of high quality. Why would science be any different? I'd say, and I think most would agree, is that the lobbying arm of the political world wields too much power. They get laws passed that harm other sectors and bottom lines, leading to RnD being cut first. Toyota, Honda, etc all have several new EVs they were going to launch, especially with the EV pilot Obama had with getting charging centers expanded. Trump tanked all of that. Then cut the tax breaks and other stuff. No company is going to invest in a market like that. The thing is, people want EVs. Big Oil is just that good at propaganda and the gen pop has a serious lack of critical thinking. I'd have bought an EV but without reliable charging access where I live, I'd be hard pressed to justify it. China isn't the issue. It's the US and the people/laws being owned by the extremely wealthy and connected. Musk fucked over EVs/Tesla when he had the best position to advocate and expand. Greed and stupidity at its finest. Largely agreed on that specific area, from what I gathered from Enders linked article it’s something of a wider wholesale trend which I find more curious.
I mean lobbying power isn’t anything particularly new
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On April 27 2026 02:31 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2026 17:01 EnDeR_ wrote:I was just reading this article theconversation.comAnd found it to be well worth a read. It's well sourced and thought-provoking. The main theme is about loss of scientific leadership, China now outspends the US in absolute terms in scientific research, produces twice as many patents and is set to continue to increase. The US on the other hand is restricting the influx of researchers while simultaneously reducing its spending. Here are some nice quotes: U.S. scientific and technological leadership was nurtured by sustained public investment in research universities and federal laboratories, as well as a culture of open inquiry. These investments turned scientific discovery into economic strength – accounting for more than 20% of all U.S. productivity growth since World War II. The most recent reports showing that China is now outspending the U.S. on scientific and technological research is a turning point worth understanding clearly because, historically, global leadership in one sector – including technology and warfare – feeds into others. U.S. dominance is in question. the active restriction of scientific exchange: tightening access to U.S. institutions, scrutinizing international collaborations and raising barriers to foreign-born researchers. These policies, though intended as security measures, work against the openness that has historically made American science productive and attractive to global talent.
I describe this issue as an example of the stockyard paradox, in which securing research assets may weaken the very system these measures aim to protect. The deeper danger for the U.S. economy is that disinvestment and selective engagement in research erodes the capacity to use cutting-edge science regardless of where it is produced.
Absorbing and applying cutting-edge knowledge, whether developed in Boston or Beijing, requires maintaining research institutions and trained workforces, as well as active participation in global networks. This is not a passive process. You cannot free-ride on Chinese science if you have dismantled the institutional and human capital needed to evaluate, translate and apply it.
A nation that hollows out its research base not only falls behind but also progressively loses its ability to benefit from science, including in technologies it is already able to access. Does the U.S. still want to lead in science? The Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, a nonprofit think tank, estimates that a 20% cut in federal research and development starting in fiscal year 2026 would shrink the U.S. economy by nearly $1 trillion over 10 years and reduce tax revenue by around $250 billion. Others point out that the scientific enterprise has contributed at least half of U.S. economic growth.
That is a lot to lose. Yay a new (and interesting) topic, much obliged! If I had a criticism of this article, there ain’t much delving into the why and I’d be quite interested to see a bit more analysis there. Obviously it’s rather good on the ‘what’ and ‘how’ aspects. I mean for example is the US starting to drop a bit because of intentional policy, or is it more a case of complacency of the form ‘we’re America we’re where the talent wants to go, so we don’t necessarily need to invest to maintain that status or what have you. More broadly speaking, it feels a huge area that general public sentiment tends to overlooked in terms of hot political topics. Now, the UK ain’t China or the US, it does a punch pretty damn hard. Argh, I haven’t mentioned Brexit for ages but here we go! It felt in that lead-in people were extremely blasé about the UK’s RnD being at least somewhat jeopardised by what Brexit (esp. a hard one) entailed. It’s a somewhat strange oversight to me, do people just think world class scientists and institution spring from the ether or something? I don’t think there’s much dispute that to produce world class sportspeople, the individual generally needs to put in years and years of graft, and (generally) needs to be ensconced in systems and leagues of high quality. Why would science be any different?
UK science used to punch well above it's weight, but I'm not sure that's the case any more. Brexit was a disaster particularly for science, and now there are budget cuts across UKRI and a shift from fundamental science (the thing Britain traditionally excelled at) towards more applied research (let's just say not the sort of thing you are known for). My friends over there are going spare.
The situation is analogous in some ways to the US. Restrict researcher influx, cut budgets, re-align vision from long term gains to maximising short-term returns. These things all have consequences.
I mean, I get that people are indifferent and don't see the point when they're struggling themselves. The problem is that science and research are a long-term play. It's what one of the main points of the article was saying, it's the human capital, you don't just re-grow it in a few years if you decide to cut it. The members of your team are not easily replaceable, each of them is the result of over a decade of investment.
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