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On March 27 2026 18:15 baal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2026 13:32 Razyda wrote:
@baal I dont think you understand your situation.
You arguing with people who will tell you that Trump ban is fine because it is private platform, then complain that Musk banned someone from his platform. You arguing with people who believe that speech which lead to harm should be banned but are first to call others nazis, racists, child rapists, fascists.
You essentially arguing with people who somehow believe that if you tell somebody to " go f...k yourself" and then somebody rip of their d...k trying to show it up his a....s, the problem is your speech, but when they say "do x next" it is x who is the problem.
The reason I came back to tl.net was because BlackJack send me a PM asking me to come post in the politics thread but it didn't take long before I realized it was too late, Constantinople had fallen, but alas here I am, last man standing swinging my sword against the horde of reddit-brained barbarians until the ban-hammer inevitably gets me.
Why would anyone invite you here to swing swords at people in the first place. Or why would you do that.
That‘s like outing yourself as a propagandist.
The hell is Constantinople even.
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On March 27 2026 20:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2026 18:15 baal wrote:On March 27 2026 13:32 Razyda wrote:
@baal I dont think you understand your situation.
You arguing with people who will tell you that Trump ban is fine because it is private platform, then complain that Musk banned someone from his platform. You arguing with people who believe that speech which lead to harm should be banned but are first to call others nazis, racists, child rapists, fascists.
You essentially arguing with people who somehow believe that if you tell somebody to " go f...k yourself" and then somebody rip of their d...k trying to show it up his a....s, the problem is your speech, but when they say "do x next" it is x who is the problem.
The reason I came back to tl.net was because BlackJack send me a PM asking me to come post in the politics thread but it didn't take long before I realized it was too late, Constantinople had fallen, but alas here I am, last man standing swinging my sword against the horde of reddit-brained barbarians until the ban-hammer inevitably gets me. Why would anyone invite you here to swing swords at people in the first place. Or why would you do that. That‘s like outing yourself as a propagandist. The hell is Constantinople even.
In their racist heads, they (right wingers) see themselves as defenders of the white, Christian world against Muslim (and in this case also woke) hordes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople
You can see references to it by the Christchurch shooter:
He threatens Turkey in his manifesto, saying: “We are coming for Constantinople [using the historical name for Istanbul] and we will destroy every mosque and minaret in the city. Hagia Sophia will be free of minarets and Constantinople will be rightfully Christian owned once more.”
Our guy here just went mask off, obviously one of the "hiding their power level" guys, compared to baal, oBlade looks like a well adjusted and normal individual.
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On March 27 2026 20:26 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2026 20:21 Vivax wrote:On March 27 2026 18:15 baal wrote:On March 27 2026 13:32 Razyda wrote:
@baal I dont think you understand your situation.
You arguing with people who will tell you that Trump ban is fine because it is private platform, then complain that Musk banned someone from his platform. You arguing with people who believe that speech which lead to harm should be banned but are first to call others nazis, racists, child rapists, fascists.
You essentially arguing with people who somehow believe that if you tell somebody to " go f...k yourself" and then somebody rip of their d...k trying to show it up his a....s, the problem is your speech, but when they say "do x next" it is x who is the problem.
The reason I came back to tl.net was because BlackJack send me a PM asking me to come post in the politics thread but it didn't take long before I realized it was too late, Constantinople had fallen, but alas here I am, last man standing swinging my sword against the horde of reddit-brained barbarians until the ban-hammer inevitably gets me. Why would anyone invite you here to swing swords at people in the first place. Or why would you do that. That‘s like outing yourself as a propagandist. The hell is Constantinople even. In their racist heads, they (right wingers) see themselves as defenders of the white, Christian world against Muslim (and in this case also woke) hordes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_ConstantinopleYou can see references to it by the Christchurch shooter: Show nested quote +He threatens Turkey in his manifesto, saying: “We are coming for Constantinople [using the historical name for Istanbul] and we will destroy every mosque and minaret in the city. Hagia Sophia will be free of minarets and Constantinople will be rightfully Christian owned once more.” Our guy here just went mask off, obviously one of the "hiding their power level" guys, compared to baal, oBlade looks like a well adjusted and normal individual.
Don't listen to him baal. As an anarcho-capitalist Hispanic you're notably different than a white supremacist mass murderer in New Zealand. Normal people just scroll past the toxic BS.
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On March 27 2026 18:06 baal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2026 16:47 EnDeR_ wrote:Mishandling is a strong word. There are many reasons for the rise of antivaxxers during the pandemic, but the main one was that social media allowed reaching a much bigger audience. Here is a good source about this. I think it's the mildest word I can come up with with how many governments reacted to the pandemic, I think its an ode to state incompetence. From under reacting to geometric threats to turning a brief "flatten the curve" lockdown to a 2 year one, where they allowed BLM rallies but also stay at home, so many retarded useless policies etc. Of course social media gives a bigger audience, its a megaphone, also pro-vaccination gets the megaphone too.Show nested quote +For me the really problematic stuff is this: Much of the anti-vaccine information on social media moved through networks of so-called influencers.26 Some were long-time anti-vaccine activists and others had established their audiences in wellness, politics, parenting, or other spheres. Many of these influencers are ideologically motivated, but some, including several prominent anti-vaccine influencers, profit from their audiences by selling anti-vaccine books and products (eg, alternative treatments), and monetising websites with advertising revenue or affiliate links to anti-vaccine groups.26 In at least one case, influencers selling anti-vaccine products founded a medical freedom-focused super political action committee.27 The short term fix for this sort of thing is deplatforming. But to truly fix the problem, regulation needs to be put forward to tune the algorithms away from addictive maximum engagement. I hope that with the new rulings, this will give it enough momentum to get something done. Yeah its sad that so many ppl are antivaxxers, freedom gives people the chance to make dumb choices, like wanting the government to control social media algorithms.
Considering the complexity and scale of the problem, dealing with COVID was always going to be difficult. Not all interventions were successful, but it wasn't all bad. Operation warp speed was a huge success, for instance, and something I'm very grateful for.
Regarding the bolded; it is not quite the same. A message of "vaccines continue to be effective" generates a lot less engagement than "they're coming for your kids"; algorithms are biased to promote unusual content because that generates more engagement. There's a whole industry of people that have figured out how to get you to engage; i mean it's the whole basis of "click-bait".
I am not arguing for the creation of a government department of social media control. I do think that we need laws regulating how social media functions separate from more traditional communication media because it's just not the same and there is clear evidence that the way it functions now is harmful to many of its users.
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On March 27 2026 16:00 baal wrote:
The fact that you insist on calling an antiparasitic developed for humans "horse dewormer" instead of acknowleding it was a play to persuade people to not take it makes it crystal clear that you don't have any intellectual integrity whatsoever.
It was available as a prescription in pill form for humans. The paste form that sold out during the pandemic though?
Related contemporary headline:
Ivermectin shortage because of false Covid cure claims may result in animals being sent to slaughter
Why are you so mad about people factually correct in referring to it as horse dewormer rather than the liars who actually got people killed by calling it a COVID cure? Please, walk me through it, I want to understand your logic.
"The use of masks is not needed"
The context was for uninfected people, during a mask shortage where health care workers didn't have enough. That's the thing you demonstrably were wrong about.
The government correcting course based in new cutting edge scientific data, nothing to do with procuring supply to medical staff, not at all, nothing to see here.
He literally said that aloud in the interview you're alleging was some conspiracy cover-up lmao.
On March 27 2026 16:34 baal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2026 22:06 Gorsameth wrote:
I don't see how someone can have lived through the rise of social media without seeing the basic 1:1 overlap with the rise in anti-vax sentiment.
It just seems so very obvious that providing a platform for factual misinformation and giving it 'sunlight' doesn't kill it but instead nurtures it.
(I was going to assume baal was 20 something or younger but the account is from 2003 so that doesn't add up ><) I'm older and wiser than all of you kids 8)Antivaxxers used to be a left wing idea of hippies who usually dislike allopathy, but when vaccines become a government mandate it was taken over by right wingers who dislike government control. What created the rise was the covid pandemic and its mishandling
Numerous vaccines were mandatory before COVID to go to public school and join the military. So how come those didn't fuel right-wing rage?
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Bunch of sociopaths and psychopaths in this thread. Very low iq as well. Lots of midwittery. Its written and formulated well but the takes show understanding of highschool lvl. They dont see their stupid mistakes and when point out the reaction is predictably terrible like with all sociopaths.
Can i get my ban now pretty plz cherry on top. So i never get tempted again.
Baal has some decent takes oblade as well. Baal also has few terrible takes though but no point arguing. The fake liberals in this thread are the biggest sociopaths. And i say this as a european liberal.
Always liked gh still do. Dont ask me why i cant explain.
Anyway ban now plz and cya take care.
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On March 27 2026 13:32 Razyda wrote:
FFS
"Two high-profile progressive lawmakers introduced a bill Wednesday that would pause new data centers in the United States until national safeguards are in place to protect workers and consumers and ensure the technologies don’t harm the environment."
This is basically saying that government decides which AI companies get to build data centers.
Why did you share this quote when the sentence that follows has nothing to do with it?
You arguing with people who will tell you that Trump ban is fine because it is private platform, then complain that Musk banned someone from his platform.
Trump violated the terms of service by inciting violence. Hurting Elon Musk's feelings doesn't appear to be part of the terms of service, but it may have changed since I last checked.
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