|
Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting! NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.
Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.If you have any questions, comments, concern, or feedback regarding the USPMT, then please use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/510156-us-politics-thread |
On October 19 2025 10:09 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2025 09:16 KwarK wrote:On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet. You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president? You get that he did the things, right? You do understand that, don’t you? Like the court found that he did rape that woman. He is, legally speaking, a rapist. That’s why he was in court for it. It’s not political, he just raped a woman and that’s illegal to do. "In March 2024, George Stephanopoulos of ABC News repeatedly made false statements that the jury found Trump liable for rape." Edit: link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll_v._Donald_J._Trump
Have you read your own link to find out why they were false yet? Patiently waiting for an update.
|
On October 21 2025 07:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:That's both insane and unsurprising. She's such an idiot.
Feels sorta quaint compared to the AI slop her boss has been posting lately.
Trump on Saturday evening posted an AI-generated video on Truth Social showing him wearing a crown at the stick of a warplane emblazoned with “King Trump.” It is shown bombarding liberal protesters with a poop-like substance in an apparent reference to the “No Kings” rallies that took place in numerous American cities earlier in the day.
“The president uses social media to make the point. You can argue he’s probably the most effective person who’s ever used social media for that,” Johnson said at a news conference Monday. “He is using satire to make a point. He is not calling for the murder of his political opponents.”
Johnson did not elaborate on what Trump’s point might have been.
www.politico.com
|
On October 21 2025 09:28 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2025 07:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:That's both insane and unsurprising. She's such an idiot. Feels sorta quaint compared to the AI slop her boss has been posting lately. Show nested quote +Trump on Saturday evening posted an AI-generated video on Truth Social showing him wearing a crown at the stick of a warplane emblazoned with “King Trump.” It is shown bombarding liberal protesters with a poop-like substance in an apparent reference to the “No Kings” rallies that took place in numerous American cities earlier in the day.
“The president uses social media to make the point. You can argue he’s probably the most effective person who’s ever used social media for that,” Johnson said at a news conference Monday. “He is using satire to make a point. He is not calling for the murder of his political opponents.”
Johnson did not elaborate on what Trump’s point might have been. www.politico.com
Okay yeah you're right; the president posting about being a king and pooping on Americans is definitely worse x.x
|
On October 21 2025 08:58 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2025 06:36 Sadist wrote:
Embarassing but par for the course. If you go back even 4 years it would be unimaginable for people in high level positions in government to speak like that. Its full idiocracy.
Uhm... Trump 1 was allready done 4 years ago.
Yes even Trump 1 wasnt this bad.
|
United States43319 Posts
On October 21 2025 12:15 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2025 08:58 Velr wrote:On October 21 2025 06:36 Sadist wrote:
Embarassing but par for the course. If you go back even 4 years it would be unimaginable for people in high level positions in government to speak like that. Its full idiocracy.
Uhm... Trump 1 was allready done 4 years ago. Yes even Trump 1 wasnt this bad.
Sean Spicer at least had the decency to hide from reporters in the bushes. Better times. More dignified.
|
yes.
here's him interning during the Bush years for his Trump job years later.
+ Show Spoiler +
only by the time he worked for the Orange One the need for a costume to make a clown out of himself was gone. *cough*BiggestInaugurationCrowdInHistory*cough*
|
Two things that these protest are missing are being on normal business day and lasting several weeks at least. Maybe match the government shutdown in length.
|
Can normal americans afford to stay away from work? Or are they already poor enough so that they - theoreticly - could protest, but wouldn't .. since they need that weekly pay?
I try to stay up to date on what the Admin does:
And it doesn't look good.
- One call from Putin, and Ukraine is, again, asked to just give up.
- Random Boats get bombed by US military
- Shut Down ongoing - ICE and Ballrooms not affected
- Argentina bailout with ties to Investors/Businesspartners of Trump and Besset
- Epstein files lingering ... Prince Andrew lost the game of chicken
- Pardons for Fascists... DOJ on the hunt for "Trump enemies"
- New Tariffs?!!
- No new "Deals".
|
On October 21 2025 17:07 KT_Elwood wrote:Can normal americans afford to stay away from work? Or are they already poor enough so that they - theoreticly - could protest, but wouldn't .. since they need that weekly pay? I try to stay up to date on what the Admin does: And it doesn't look good. - One call from Putin, and Ukraine is, again, asked to just give up. - Random Boats get bombed by US military - Shut Down ongoing - ICE and Ballrooms not affected - Argentina bailout with ties to Investors/Businesspartners of Trump and Besset - Epstein files lingering ... Prince Andrew lost the game of chicken - Pardons for Fascists... DOJ on the hunt for "Trump enemies" - New Tariffs?!! - No new "Deals".
If they can't afford to protest, then I suppose they can afford fascism.
|
On October 21 2025 17:07 KT_Elwood wrote:
Can normal americans afford to stay away from work? Or are they already poor enough so that they - theoreticly - could protest, but wouldn't .. since they need that weekly pay? ~60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
And the lack of worker rights in the US means you may get fired if you go out to protest.
I don't think its unreasonable to say there is a decently sized group of Americans who cannot afford to protest/strike.
|
On October 21 2025 18:15 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2025 17:07 KT_Elwood wrote:
Can normal americans afford to stay away from work? Or are they already poor enough so that they - theoreticly - could protest, but wouldn't .. since they need that weekly pay? ~60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. And the lack of worker rights in the US means you may get fired if you go out to protest. I don't think its unreasonable to say there is a decently sized group of Americans who cannot afford to protest/strike.
Important point: They cannot afford to do so individually. They can afford to as a group. Individuals can never afford to fight against corporations, but a large group of workers together can.
|
On October 21 2025 07:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:That's both insane and unsurprising. She's such an idiot.
She is actually the opposite. This kind of bulling and being an asshole is exactly what Trump and his base want. They need everyone against Trump mad, which this easily accomplishes and their supporters absolutely love it, the dumber the better. This is perfect grievance politics in the Trump era, the dumber and more vile the clapback the better.
And now they get to talk about TDS, because obviously this is not nearly as bad as wearing a brown suit or having the middle name Hussein.
It is a big embarrassment for your country outside of the boarders, but it seems like speed running away all your respect is also a goal of the administration. And no one who is a Republican seems to care about it as long as a Lib is getting pwned it is worth it.
I am not being flippant, this is the Republicans actual media strategy. And the oBlades, right to the introverts and everyone in between and on the edges of them loves it as well. And in our crazy world it is also a gift from her to this reporter because it makes him relevant.
|
Northern Ireland26185 Posts
It’s kind of depressing that the White House’s Press Secretary’s Tweets could conceivably come from basically any random MAGA fan
If only it were merely embarrassing, which it certainly is. But it’s a rather insidious and sinister culture that’s come in.
It’s also basically impossible to tell who’s an idiot, and who is merely speaking their language these days.
What boggles my mind is how it’s seemingly impossible for many on the conservative side of the aisle to go like, ‘I’m still a Republican/conservative but this lot are bloody clowns’ or something in that vein. Or even some criticism, qualified with ‘I liked x y and z’ or whatever.
Trump Derangement Syndrome does exist, but IMO should be reappropriated to refer to people who are seemingly pathologically bound to defend everything he/his administration do.
|
Everyone is stupid, also, there is no truth and the enemy is weak and strong at the same time.
Just fascism 101.
I don't know who it was, maybe George Carlin, who explained it the best why does America have the healthcare system and the homeless "problem" that never seems to go away.
Because ordinary citizens need to be reminded on a daily basis that if they think of stepping out of the line they are one medical emergency away from being kicked out on the street.
Now, Trump and his merry band of fascists has added another layer to that, troops in cities and goons kidnapping people, no need for warrants, miranda rights or anything else, they spit we hit, soon it will be they throw we shoot.
As always, I hope I'm way off here but it seems like this shit is going into a very dark direction, the one the biggest cynics have been warning about for decades, in the form of weirdest and shittiest political movement imaginable, led by a demented rapist pedophile clown posting AI videos of him shitting on his people from above while half the country cheers for it and he sits around his 40 % approval rating no matter what.
|
Northern Ireland26185 Posts
On October 21 2025 21:18 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2025 18:15 Gorsameth wrote:On October 21 2025 17:07 KT_Elwood wrote:
Can normal americans afford to stay away from work? Or are they already poor enough so that they - theoreticly - could protest, but wouldn't .. since they need that weekly pay? ~60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. And the lack of worker rights in the US means you may get fired if you go out to protest. I don't think its unreasonable to say there is a decently sized group of Americans who cannot afford to protest/strike. Important point: They cannot afford to do so individually. They can afford to as a group. Individuals can never afford to fight against corporations, but a large group of workers together can.
I mean yes, in terms of industrial disputes. You have too many of you to fire potentially, you might have a union with some funds to enable people to strike without ending up destitute.
Less so in terms of a more general protest. You might have say, 10 people from 10 different jobs sauntering off to protest, and them all facing censure as individuals.
You can somewhat combine the two of course, where a large cohort from a particular company or industry all go to protest as part of a more general collective, and they might have some safety in numbers.
|
Paul Ingrassia, Trump’s nominee to lead the Office of Special Counsel (the agency in charge of protecting federal whistleblowers from retaliation, among other things), texted that the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday should be “tossed into the seventh circle of hell” and said he has “a Nazi streak”: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/20/paul-ingrassia-racist-text-messages-nazi-00613608
Now before we jump to judging him, the man is only 30 years old, basically a child, far too young to be held responsible for the stupid things he says on the Internet, according to JD Vance.
|
On October 21 2025 21:18 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2025 18:15 Gorsameth wrote:On October 21 2025 17:07 KT_Elwood wrote:
Can normal americans afford to stay away from work? Or are they already poor enough so that they - theoreticly - could protest, but wouldn't .. since they need that weekly pay? ~60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. And the lack of worker rights in the US means you may get fired if you go out to protest. I don't think its unreasonable to say there is a decently sized group of Americans who cannot afford to protest/strike. Important point: They cannot afford to do so individually. They can afford to as a group. Individuals can never afford to fight against corporations, but a large group of workers together can.
Thats why you use austerity against people. Economic pressure ups the cost of showing solidarity.
|
On October 21 2025 21:28 Billyboy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2025 07:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:That's both insane and unsurprising. She's such an idiot. She is actually the opposite. This kind of bulling and being an asshole is exactly what Trump and his base want. They need everyone against Trump mad, which this easily accomplishes and their supporters absolutely love it, the dumber the better. This is perfect grievance politics in the Trump era, the dumber and more vile the clapback the better. And now they get to talk about TDS, because obviously this is not nearly as bad as wearing a brown suit or having the middle name Hussein. It is a big embarrassment for your country outside of the boarders, but it seems like speed running away all your respect is also a goal of the administration. And no one who is a Republican seems to care about it as long as a Lib is getting pwned it is worth it. I am not being flippant, this is the Republicans actual media strategy. And the oBlades, right to the introverts and everyone in between and on the edges of them loves it as well. And in our crazy world it is also a gift from her to this reporter because it makes him relevant.
Yes that is exactly what is going on.They need everyone who is already anti Trump to be as mad and angry as possible.
The democrats play into this perfectly by focussing on exactly those "dumb" (emotionally driven) things that rile up the leftwing of the democrats the most. Not entirely sure how this works from a pr pov but i guess its a strategy to keep the centre from drifting left.
By creating this image of mad and angry opposition that most centrists dont realy want to be a part of at least not yet. Maybe its also partially a distraction. To keep focus away from other subjects and changes.
|
Trump Said to Demand Justice Dept. Pay Him $230 Million for Past Cases@NYTimes
President Trump is demanding that the Justice Department pay him about $230 million in compensation for the federal investigations into him, according to people familiar with the matter, who added that any settlement might ultimately be approved by senior department officials who defended him or those in his orbit.
The situation has no parallel in American history, as Mr. Trump, a presidential candidate, was pursued by federal law enforcement and eventually won the election, taking over the very government that must now review his claims. It is also the starkest example yet of potential ethical conflicts created by installing the president’s former lawyers atop the Justice Department.
Mr. Trump submitted complaints through an administrative claim process that often is the precursor to lawsuits. The first claim, lodged in late 2023, seeks damages for a number of purported violations of his rights, including the F.B.I. and special counsel investigation into Russian election tampering and possible connections to the 2016 Trump campaign, according to people familiar with the matter. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because the claim has not been made public.
The second complaint, filed in the summer of 2024, accuses the F.B.I. of violating Mr. Trump’s privacy by searching Mar-a-Lago, his club and residence in Florida, in 2022 for classified documents. It also accuses the Justice Department of malicious prosecution in charging him with mishandling sensitive records after he left office.
Lawyers said the nature of the claims posed undeniable ethics challenges.
“What a travesty,” said Bennett L. Gershman, an ethics professor at Pace University. “The ethical conflict is just so basic and fundamental, you don’t need a law professor to explain it.”
He added: “And then to have people in the Justice Department decide whether his claim should be successful or not, and these are the people who serve him deciding whether he wins or loses. It’s bizarre and almost too outlandish to believe.”
Even the president seemed to acknowledge that point in the Oval Office last week, when he alluded vaguely to the situation while standing next to the F.B.I. director, Kash Patel, Attorney General Pam Bondi, and her deputy, Todd Blanche. According to Justice Department regulations, the deputy attorney general — in this case, Mr. Blanche — is one of two people eligible to sign off on such a settlement.
“I have a lawsuit that was doing very well, and when I became president, I said, I’m sort of suing myself. I don’t know, how do you settle the lawsuit, I’ll say give me X dollars, and I don’t know what to do with the lawsuit,” Mr. Trump said, adding: “It sort of looks bad, I’m suing myself, right? So I don’t know. But that was a lawsuit that was very strong, very powerful.”
god damn halleluja. the gall, entitlement and frankly chutzpah is off the charts.
but you do you King, voters are 100% into this I feel like.
|
On October 22 2025 04:43 Doublemint wrote:Trump Said to Demand Justice Dept. Pay Him $230 Million for Past Cases@NYTimes Show nested quote +President Trump is demanding that the Justice Department pay him about $230 million in compensation for the federal investigations into him, according to people familiar with the matter, who added that any settlement might ultimately be approved by senior department officials who defended him or those in his orbit.
The situation has no parallel in American history, as Mr. Trump, a presidential candidate, was pursued by federal law enforcement and eventually won the election, taking over the very government that must now review his claims. It is also the starkest example yet of potential ethical conflicts created by installing the president’s former lawyers atop the Justice Department.
Mr. Trump submitted complaints through an administrative claim process that often is the precursor to lawsuits. The first claim, lodged in late 2023, seeks damages for a number of purported violations of his rights, including the F.B.I. and special counsel investigation into Russian election tampering and possible connections to the 2016 Trump campaign, according to people familiar with the matter. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because the claim has not been made public.
The second complaint, filed in the summer of 2024, accuses the F.B.I. of violating Mr. Trump’s privacy by searching Mar-a-Lago, his club and residence in Florida, in 2022 for classified documents. It also accuses the Justice Department of malicious prosecution in charging him with mishandling sensitive records after he left office.
Lawyers said the nature of the claims posed undeniable ethics challenges.
“What a travesty,” said Bennett L. Gershman, an ethics professor at Pace University. “The ethical conflict is just so basic and fundamental, you don’t need a law professor to explain it.”
He added: “And then to have people in the Justice Department decide whether his claim should be successful or not, and these are the people who serve him deciding whether he wins or loses. It’s bizarre and almost too outlandish to believe.”
Even the president seemed to acknowledge that point in the Oval Office last week, when he alluded vaguely to the situation while standing next to the F.B.I. director, Kash Patel, Attorney General Pam Bondi, and her deputy, Todd Blanche. According to Justice Department regulations, the deputy attorney general — in this case, Mr. Blanche — is one of two people eligible to sign off on such a settlement.
“I have a lawsuit that was doing very well, and when I became president, I said, I’m sort of suing myself. I don’t know, how do you settle the lawsuit, I’ll say give me X dollars, and I don’t know what to do with the lawsuit,” Mr. Trump said, adding: “It sort of looks bad, I’m suing myself, right? So I don’t know. But that was a lawsuit that was very strong, very powerful.” god damn halleluja. the gall, entitlement and frankly chutzpah is off the charts. but you do you King, voters are 100% into this I feel like.
This has all been zero shame, maximum corrupt grift right from the start. I mean, yeah, this is another absurdly unethical one, but we already have at least a dozen of those.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT![[image loading]](https://media.silive.com/latest_news/photo/22484448-mmmain.jpg)
![[image loading]](https://preview.redd.it/excavator-currently-tearing-down-the-east-wing-of-the-white-v0-g3s1gnboacwf1.jpeg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d9bf58680d649a78a7c67dc0c65e359e8dfc415c)
