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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1987 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-19 00:14:15
October 19 2025 00:12 GMT
#106421
Biden didn't promise a revenge tour against his enemies. Biden appointed a Republican to be the Attorney General, 20 Republican Senators voted in favor of his confirmation, and told him to handle it in a nonpartisan way. Where's the weaponization?
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43480 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-19 00:17:50
October 19 2025 00:16 GMT
#106422
On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet.


You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president?

You get that he did the things, right? You do understand that, don’t you? Like the court found that he did rape that woman. He is, legally speaking, a rapist. That’s why he was in court for it. It’s not political, he just raped a woman and that’s illegal to do.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
October 19 2025 00:58 GMT
#106423
On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet.


You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president?

The question isn't how many court cases he faced, rather, which president blatantly weaponized the criminal justice system. And the answer is none (other than the aforementioned Trump).
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
896 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-19 01:19:14
October 19 2025 01:09 GMT
#106424
On October 19 2025 09:16 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:
On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet.


You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president?

You get that he did the things, right? You do understand that, don’t you? Like the court found that he did rape that woman. He is, legally speaking, a rapist. That’s why he was in court for it. It’s not political, he just raped a woman and that’s illegal to do.


"In March 2024, George Stephanopoulos of ABC News repeatedly made false statements that the jury found Trump liable for rape."

Edit: link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll_v._Donald_J._Trump
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1987 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-19 01:35:02
October 19 2025 01:19 GMT
#106425
On October 19 2025 10:09 Razyda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2025 09:16 KwarK wrote:
On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:
On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet.


You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president?

You get that he did the things, right? You do understand that, don’t you? Like the court found that he did rape that woman. He is, legally speaking, a rapist. That’s why he was in court for it. It’s not political, he just raped a woman and that’s illegal to do.


"In March 2024, George Stephanopoulos of ABC News repeatedly made false statements that the jury found Trump liable for rape."


Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

Stephanopoulos' false statement wasn't because the crime didn't happen, but because technically NY law requires PIV penetration to be legally classified as "rape" when that's not what the accusation was.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8693 Posts
October 19 2025 02:53 GMT
#106426
On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet.


You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_and_business_legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump

since?
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43480 Posts
October 19 2025 03:18 GMT
#106427
On October 19 2025 11:53 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:
On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet.


You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_and_business_legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump

since?

The fact that his legal issues have nothing to do with his political career and have followed him long before he considered politics is, if you think about it, proof of just how deep the conspiracy goes.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43480 Posts
October 19 2025 04:20 GMT
#106428
On October 19 2025 10:09 Razyda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2025 09:16 KwarK wrote:
On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:
On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet.


You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president?

You get that he did the things, right? You do understand that, don’t you? Like the court found that he did rape that woman. He is, legally speaking, a rapist. That’s why he was in court for it. It’s not political, he just raped a woman and that’s illegal to do.


"In March 2024, George Stephanopoulos of ABC News repeatedly made false statements that the jury found Trump liable for rape."

Edit: link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll_v._Donald_J._Trump

Buddy, he raped her. That’s what the court found after hearing all the evidence.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8693 Posts
October 19 2025 07:25 GMT
#106429
yeah...

Trump, "selfmade" billionaire and the tribune of the plebs shitting in golden toilets. Trump telling it "how it is" by hallucinating things untethered from reality like burning cities and insurrections - while he himself was the closest to instigating one.

Law and Order president pardoning criminal cronies and rioters. "family man" Trump sending ICE thugs to terrorize minorities and destroying their families. and increasingly breaking more laws doing it. even US born citizens for simply having the wrong skin colour are getting harassed.

Free Speech president going after university Op-ed writers whose opinions he does not like, or social media jokers having one about St. Kirk and his way too early demise. very much undignified and improper - but as St. Kirk himself would have said, very much legal and even necessary if you take the whole 1st amendment and Free Speech à la USA seriously.

fixing healthcare by cutting 800+ billion dollars from Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid. explicitly promising to fix the deficit by NOT cutting Social Security.

while happily growing the US debt and fixing less than nothing. however very happily extending Tax Cuts for people that do_not_need_them.

Interactive FED chart that should be taught and discussed just about everywhere - look at what happened to household wealth during the GFC, especially the bottom 50%


Trump Derangement Syndrome is real. and an uninformed/disgusted by the political process populace easy pickings for propaganda and demagoguery.


Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5823 Posts
October 19 2025 08:09 GMT
#106430
On October 19 2025 09:12 LightSpectra wrote:
Biden didn't promise a revenge tour against his enemies. Biden appointed a Republican to be the Attorney General, 20 Republican Senators voted in favor of his confirmation, and told him to handle it in a nonpartisan way. Where's the weaponization?

Biden appointed one AG I know of, Merrick Garland, who was not a Republican. The last cabinet level Republican in a Democrat cabinet was probably when Obama kept Bush's defense secretary. Comey was also a Republican. Otherwise I don't know who you've mistaken Garland for being.

Also every Senate Democrat voted to approve Rubio as Secretary of State - they still don't like what he later did and constantly grill him at hearings. That vote is just for getting the job not forever approval.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8693 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-19 09:20:32
October 19 2025 09:19 GMT
#106431
Tariffs to cost companies $1.2T this year, mostly hitting consumers

President Trump's tariffs will cost businesses more than $1.2 trillion this year, with most of that cost being passed on to consumers, according to a new study from S&P Global.

Why it matters: It's the latest sign that Americans will end up bearing the brunt of Trump's trade war.

It also contributes to a picture of a much more difficult economy ahead.

Driving the news: In the study published on Thursday, S&P Global found that companies are now expected to pay at least $1.2 trillion more in 2025 expenses than they anticipated on Jan. 1, in what the researchers say is likely a conservative estimate.

The researchers project that at least two-thirds of "expense shock" will be passed on to consumers, with the rest absorbed by companies.

The Yale Budget Lab estimated in August that Trump's latest tariffs will cost U.S. households $2,400 this year.


"who knew healthcare trade wars could be so complicated"
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23590 Posts
October 19 2025 15:36 GMT
#106432
Chicago's Mayor Brandon Johnson is calling on those that were protesting yesterday (and everyone else really) to join a General Strike.



Curious that it wasn't mentioned in corporate coverage afaict?

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson asked if residents in his city were ready to “defend this democracy,” “fight fascism” and “destroy authoritarianism” before leading the crowd in a chant of “No Kings.”


www.newsweek.com
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1105 Posts
October 19 2025 15:37 GMT
#106433
On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet.


You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president?


Sooo... if you are a career criminal like Trump, you can use the DOJ as your personal revenge tool, even if your very own DOJ hasn't found any, not even trace amount of wrongdoing in "cases" like Comey ... because you were in Court a lot, and so "should the other side"?

What the fuck?
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22062 Posts
October 19 2025 15:40 GMT
#106434
On October 20 2025 00:37 KT_Elwood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:
On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet.


You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president?


Sooo... if you are a career criminal like Trump, you can use the DOJ as your personal revenge tool, even if your very own DOJ hasn't found any, not even trace amount of wrongdoing in "cases" like Comey ... because you were in Court a lot, and so "should the other side"?

What the fuck?
Clearly any criminal should start running for office because then they become immune to prosecution for their very real crimes, as it would be political prosecution :p

Surely this can never go wrong.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1393 Posts
October 19 2025 15:49 GMT
#106435
On October 19 2025 03:39 Dan HH wrote:
He's sort of right, one-day protests without demands are the least effective. Though I wouldn't call them useless, millions of people showing disapproval is important for the cultural direction of how things evolve even if they don't have immediate tangible results.

But like.. go and tell them about it? Go and find the local organizers and have a chat with them and shoot your shot, or grab a megaphone and tell the crowd you'll be there every evening and ask whoever can do that as well to join you. Moaning about a protest not being actiony enough on a Starcraft forum where there's 0 of the organizers and maybe 1 other person from your city is less than what they're doing.

Very fertile ground for recruitment, no doubt. From what I was reading it was the biggest protest against a president in the history of the US, even if you get .01% your cause is growing likely exponentially.

On October 20 2025 00:40 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2025 00:37 KT_Elwood wrote:
On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:
On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet.


You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president?


Sooo... if you are a career criminal like Trump, you can use the DOJ as your personal revenge tool, even if your very own DOJ hasn't found any, not even trace amount of wrongdoing in "cases" like Comey ... because you were in Court a lot, and so "should the other side"?

What the fuck?
Clearly any criminal should start running for office because then they become immune to prosecution for their very real crimes, as it would be political prosecution :p

Surely this can never go wrong.

Also, get sick (or fake it) with things that require expensive medicine so that when Trump reduces the cost by 1000, 1200, 1500% you will be super rich!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22151 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-19 17:20:31
October 19 2025 15:50 GMT
#106436
Things start making a lot more sense when you assume the legal and economic systems in western countries have been bullshittified. And there‘s enough evidence for that.

Europe‘s completely dependent on US internet infrastructure and banking.

I mean, if Americans vote Trump in after knowing all about this and that, then you have to simply assume that most Americans simply don‘t give a fuck about the law.

I might reach that state of mind too, eventually.

Or maybe they just voted Trump in to have someone to roast.
Shit‘s contagious, even Austria has become lawless.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1987 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-19 16:47:26
October 19 2025 16:44 GMT
#106437
On October 20 2025 00:37 KT_Elwood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:
On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet.


You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president?


Sooo... if you are a career criminal like Trump, you can use the DOJ as your personal revenge tool, even if your very own DOJ hasn't found any, not even trace amount of wrongdoing in "cases" like Comey ... because you were in Court a lot, and so "should the other side"?

What the fuck?


The conservative mindset since Trump's first election is the government exists to punish minorities and Democrats. Remember "He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting"? They're fine dying because of FEMA/NOAA/Medicaid/whatever cuts as long as some minorities die with them. Of course the DOJ should be Trump's personal scepter of vengeance.

It's why they have so many feverish conspiracy theories about Obama using the IRS to target conservatives and other misinformation. It's not just to justify them doing it themselves, it's because they fundamentally believe government exists to be weaponized and they can't conceive of a world where that isn't true.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22062 Posts
October 19 2025 17:26 GMT
#106438
On October 20 2025 01:44 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2025 00:37 KT_Elwood wrote:
On October 19 2025 09:04 Razyda wrote:
On October 19 2025 08:57 micronesia wrote:
Considering Trump's the only president to so blatantly weaponize the criminal justice system so far, there's no need to "both sides" this yet.


You cant be serious now? How many court cases he faced since he started running for president?


Sooo... if you are a career criminal like Trump, you can use the DOJ as your personal revenge tool, even if your very own DOJ hasn't found any, not even trace amount of wrongdoing in "cases" like Comey ... because you were in Court a lot, and so "should the other side"?

What the fuck?


The conservative mindset since Trump's first election is the government exists to punish minorities and Democrats. Remember "He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting"? They're fine dying because of FEMA/NOAA/Medicaid/whatever cuts as long as some minorities die with them. Of course the DOJ should be Trump's personal scepter of vengeance.

It's why they have so many feverish conspiracy theories about Obama using the IRS to target conservatives and other misinformation. It's not just to justify them doing it themselves, it's because they fundamentally believe government exists to be weaponized and they can't conceive of a world where that isn't true.
As the saying goes, every accusation is a confession.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8693 Posts
October 19 2025 19:45 GMT
#106439
On October 20 2025 00:50 Vivax wrote:
Things start making a lot more sense when you assume the legal and economic systems in western countries have been bullshittified. And there‘s enough evidence for that.

Europe‘s completely dependent on US internet infrastructure and banking.

I mean, if Americans vote Trump in after knowing all about this and that, then you have to simply assume that most Americans simply don‘t give a fuck about the law.

I might reach that state of mind too, eventually.

Or maybe they just voted Trump in to have someone to roast.
Shit‘s contagious, even Austria has become lawless.


lawless? how so?
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22151 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-19 20:26:41
October 19 2025 20:03 GMT
#106440
On October 20 2025 04:45 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2025 00:50 Vivax wrote:
Things start making a lot more sense when you assume the legal and economic systems in western countries have been bullshittified. And there‘s enough evidence for that.

Europe‘s completely dependent on US internet infrastructure and banking.

I mean, if Americans vote Trump in after knowing all about this and that, then you have to simply assume that most Americans simply don‘t give a fuck about the law.

I might reach that state of mind too, eventually.

Or maybe they just voted Trump in to have someone to roast.
Shit‘s contagious, even Austria has become lawless.


lawless? how so?


Not in the sense that you can always do whatever you want. But they’re among the masters of the undetected cons.

Can Trump be worse than what they‘ve been doing here ? Idk.
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