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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44275 Posts
May 08 2025 09:22 GMT
#99161
Casey Means is Trump's new pick for surgeon general. I didn't know much about her, so I checked her Twitter (she's a huge fan of RFK Jr.) and her Wiki: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Means

From her Wiki:
"Means graduated Stanford University School of Medicine in 2014 and subsequently chose to practice functional medicine. Her medical license has been inactive since 2024. She founded the health company Levels. Means co-authored Good Energy, a book on metabolism, with her brother, Calley."

That's already a problem because...
"Functional medicine (FM) is a form of alternative medicine that encompasses many unproven and disproven methods and treatments.[1][2][3] It has been described as pseudoscience,[4] quackery,[5] and at its essence a rebranding of complementary and alternative medicine.[5] In the United States, FM practices have been ruled ineligible for course credits by the American Academy of Family Physicians because of concerns they may be harmful.[6][7]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_medicine

Another fun fact from her Wiki: "Means sells sponsored dietary supplements, creams, teas, and other products on her social media accounts.[16]" I'm getting Dr. Oz type vibes from what I'm reading about her, in that she does indeed have a medical doctorate, but has since become a snake oil salesperson.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
765 Posts
May 08 2025 10:11 GMT
#99162
Isn't it nice, huh.
Trump is speedrunning building a circus out of government.
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany935 Posts
May 08 2025 10:33 GMT
#99163
On May 08 2025 19:11 ZeroByte13 wrote:
Isn't it nice, huh.
Trump is speedrunning building a circus out of government.


Again.

He does it again.
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
May 08 2025 11:30 GMT
#99164
Trump is breaking the government much more quickly this time though.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany935 Posts
May 08 2025 11:31 GMT
#99165
On May 08 2025 18:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Casey Means is Trump's new pick for surgeon general. I didn't know much about her, so I checked her Twitter (she's a huge fan of RFK Jr.) and her Wiki: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Means

From her Wiki:
"Means graduated Stanford University School of Medicine in 2014 and subsequently chose to practice functional medicine. Her medical license has been inactive since 2024. She founded the health company Levels. Means co-authored Good Energy, a book on metabolism, with her brother, Calley."

That's already a problem because...
"Functional medicine (FM) is a form of alternative medicine that encompasses many unproven and disproven methods and treatments.[1][2][3] It has been described as pseudoscience,[4] quackery,[5] and at its essence a rebranding of complementary and alternative medicine.[5] In the United States, FM practices have been ruled ineligible for course credits by the American Academy of Family Physicians because of concerns they may be harmful.[6][7]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_medicine

Another fun fact from her Wiki: "Means sells sponsored dietary supplements, creams, teas, and other products on her social media accounts.[16]" I'm getting Dr. Oz type vibes from what I'm reading about her, in that she does indeed have a medical doctorate, but has since become a snake oil salesperson.



I love alternative medicine and placebos. You literally can't mistreat or overdose, because most of it doesn't have any effect beyond water. Production is therefore super easy, you have zero R&D cost.. and the only thing you need to do is swirl around in a white lab coat and be DR something.

And Idiots and poor people just gobble up your useless shit and PAY PAY PAY.. because they are desperate, ashamed or have no means to see real doctors.

This is like real estate and gambling had a lovechild.

A guy with Eyeliner put it best!






"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia582 Posts
May 08 2025 14:41 GMT
#99166
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/us-complementary-alternative-medicine-market-report

This industry of bunk is now at $34 billion , FDA and other national institutions were already extremely impotent in addressing the fact that it's all bullshit, now, it's going to go into overdrive.

Love Tim Minchin, my skeptical origin story is finding a mention of Skeptics Guide to the Universe on this forum 15ish years ago, I still listen but it's honestly so fucking depressing that they have been yelling into the void about this for so long and it's only getting worse, I mean, Demon hunted world was written 30 years ago and it's never been more true:


“I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance”


And then Americans elected the actual demon who embodies this to the highest office, eh...
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
May 08 2025 15:05 GMT
#99167
Donald Trump is "The Closer".

Hopefully, the first domino to fall means an end to this tariff silliness in the next few months.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25184 Posts
May 08 2025 18:00 GMT
#99168
On May 08 2025 23:41 Jankisa wrote:
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/us-complementary-alternative-medicine-market-report

This industry of bunk is now at $34 billion , FDA and other national institutions were already extremely impotent in addressing the fact that it's all bullshit, now, it's going to go into overdrive.

Love Tim Minchin, my skeptical origin story is finding a mention of Skeptics Guide to the Universe on this forum 15ish years ago, I still listen but it's honestly so fucking depressing that they have been yelling into the void about this for so long and it's only getting worse, I mean, Demon hunted world was written 30 years ago and it's never been more true:

Show nested quote +

“I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance”


And then Americans elected the actual demon who embodies this to the highest office, eh...

I used to be an avid listener too, great minds and all that (although the same is oft true of idiots).

It started to be less fun when their debunking efforts became less and less constrained to fringe esoteric ideas and more and more having to be turned to very mainstream ones.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8504 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-08 18:07:01
May 08 2025 18:05 GMT
#99169
Robert Prevost of the United States is named Pope Leo XIV


New pope led order dedicated to the poor and service
By PETER SMITH

The new pope was formerly the prior general, or leader, of the Order of St. Augustine, formed in the 13th century as a community of “mendicant” friars dedicated to poverty, service and evangelization.

The order’s requirements and ethos are traced to the fifth century St. Augustine of Hippo, one of the theological and devotional giants of early Christianity.

The order works in about 50 countries, according to its website, promoting a contemplative spirituality, communal living and service to others.



What to know:

Who is Robert Prevost? The former pope, Francis, brought Prevost, 69, to the Vatican in 2023 to serve as the powerful head of the office that vets bishop nominations from around the world, one of the most important jobs in the Catholic Church. As a result, Prevost has a prominence going into the conclave that few other cardinals had.

How was the new pope chosen? 135 eligible cardinals participated in a secretive voting process known as “the conclave.” The cardinals had no contact with the outside world, and their votes will not be revealed.

Which cardinals were the leading contenders? There are never official candidates for the papacy, but some cardinals were considered “papabile,” or possessing the characteristics necessary to become pope. Some names include Pietro Parolin, who oversaw the conclave, Luis Tagle, dubbed the “Asian Francis,” Fridolin Ambongo Besungu, a conservative cardinal native to the Congo, and Pierbattista Pizzaballa, potentially the first Italian pope in decades.



huge huge huuuge news! catholicism coming your way murica, resistance is futile now!
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1924 Posts
May 08 2025 18:36 GMT
#99170
Has trump already posted how only he could bring the Pope to the USA?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25184 Posts
May 08 2025 19:34 GMT
#99171
On May 09 2025 00:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Donald Trump is "The Closer".

Hopefully, the first domino to fall means an end to this tariff silliness in the next few months.

What does this even mean?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-08 21:19:58
May 08 2025 21:10 GMT
#99172
On May 09 2025 04:34 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2025 00:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Donald Trump is "The Closer".

What does this even mean?

Lutnick called Donald Trump "The Closer" in the today's US deal with the UK. So Lutnick is saying Trump did more than rubber stamp the deal that his subordinates made. Trump was the #1 salesman in a group of elite salesmen.. in Lutnick's telling of this fish tale.

"only 1 thing counts in this life. get them to sign on the line which is dotted... you hear me you fucking "

As the "Closer" Trump finalized the deal. For Americans who are unlikely to spend a lot of time on video game forums the term "Closer" has two meanings. In American culture the "Closer" is a revered action and you are a revered sales professional if you are a closer. It is the ultimate winning act in sales and in America's past time. In baseball, the "Closer" ends the game. He is usually the best 1 inning pitcher on the team.

I don't think we have too many American salesmen or American baseball fans on this forum. Thus, some of the emotion //connotation behind the Lutnick's statement is prolly lost upon the crowd in here.



my favourite and richest uncle agreed to pay my first year of car insurance after i graduated from university under one condition. I had to perform this speech.

As revered as "the closer" position is... the closer can also be the ultimate loser in the highest stakes situations. In this one the closer failed to seal the deal.

That Lutnick // Trump stuff today during the press conference announcing the UK // USA trade deal was comedy gold. The serious side of me hopes this is just the beginning and it is the first domino to fall in a series of trade deals that end this tariff stuff.

IMO, this tariff stuff is bad. Whether one views it as bad or not, it is eroding support for Trump.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7291 Posts
May 08 2025 21:36 GMT
#99173
On May 09 2025 03:05 Doublemint wrote:
Robert Prevost of the United States is named Pope Leo XIV


Show nested quote +
New pope led order dedicated to the poor and service
By PETER SMITH

The new pope was formerly the prior general, or leader, of the Order of St. Augustine, formed in the 13th century as a community of “mendicant” friars dedicated to poverty, service and evangelization.

The order’s requirements and ethos are traced to the fifth century St. Augustine of Hippo, one of the theological and devotional giants of early Christianity.

The order works in about 50 countries, according to its website, promoting a contemplative spirituality, communal living and service to others.



What to know:

Who is Robert Prevost? The former pope, Francis, brought Prevost, 69, to the Vatican in 2023 to serve as the powerful head of the office that vets bishop nominations from around the world, one of the most important jobs in the Catholic Church. As a result, Prevost has a prominence going into the conclave that few other cardinals had.

How was the new pope chosen? 135 eligible cardinals participated in a secretive voting process known as “the conclave.” The cardinals had no contact with the outside world, and their votes will not be revealed.

Which cardinals were the leading contenders? There are never official candidates for the papacy, but some cardinals were considered “papabile,” or possessing the characteristics necessary to become pope. Some names include Pietro Parolin, who oversaw the conclave, Luis Tagle, dubbed the “Asian Francis,” Fridolin Ambongo Besungu, a conservative cardinal native to the Congo, and Pierbattista Pizzaballa, potentially the first Italian pope in decades.



huge huge huuuge news! catholicism coming your way murica, resistance is futile now!


Oh shit, JD Vance victim incoming
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13924 Posts
May 08 2025 21:51 GMT
#99174
I don't think jimmy know what closeing a deal means, either that or he didn't actually read anything on the annoucement. they literally didn't close the deal they annouced a nothing burger that they were close to a deal. The things they annouced are also really dumb things that wouldn't change anything. Aparently they sold out their agriculture sector that was already on the brink in exchange for no tariffs on their already uncompetitive steel and aluminum sectors.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-08 22:30:40
May 08 2025 22:28 GMT
#99175
On May 09 2025 06:51 Sermokala wrote:
I don't think jimmy know what closeing a deal means, either that or he didn't actually read anything on the annoucement. they literally didn't close the deal they annouced a nothing burger that they were close to a deal.

i guess you did not read my post. i said the press conference was "comedy gold".
did you watch the presser? Lutnick called Trump "The Closer".
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44275 Posts
May 08 2025 22:45 GMT
#99176
On May 09 2025 03:05 Doublemint wrote:
Robert Prevost of the United States is named Pope Leo XIV


Show nested quote +
New pope led order dedicated to the poor and service
By PETER SMITH

The new pope was formerly the prior general, or leader, of the Order of St. Augustine, formed in the 13th century as a community of “mendicant” friars dedicated to poverty, service and evangelization.

The order’s requirements and ethos are traced to the fifth century St. Augustine of Hippo, one of the theological and devotional giants of early Christianity.

The order works in about 50 countries, according to its website, promoting a contemplative spirituality, communal living and service to others.



What to know:

Who is Robert Prevost? The former pope, Francis, brought Prevost, 69, to the Vatican in 2023 to serve as the powerful head of the office that vets bishop nominations from around the world, one of the most important jobs in the Catholic Church. As a result, Prevost has a prominence going into the conclave that few other cardinals had.

How was the new pope chosen? 135 eligible cardinals participated in a secretive voting process known as “the conclave.” The cardinals had no contact with the outside world, and their votes will not be revealed.

Which cardinals were the leading contenders? There are never official candidates for the papacy, but some cardinals were considered “papabile,” or possessing the characteristics necessary to become pope. Some names include Pietro Parolin, who oversaw the conclave, Luis Tagle, dubbed the “Asian Francis,” Fridolin Ambongo Besungu, a conservative cardinal native to the Congo, and Pierbattista Pizzaballa, potentially the first Italian pope in decades.



huge huge huuuge news! catholicism coming your way murica, resistance is futile now!


The new Pope has a degree in mathematics. He doesn’t just understand sin; he understands cos and tan too.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25184 Posts
May 08 2025 23:36 GMT
#99177
On May 09 2025 07:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2025 03:05 Doublemint wrote:
Robert Prevost of the United States is named Pope Leo XIV


New pope led order dedicated to the poor and service
By PETER SMITH

The new pope was formerly the prior general, or leader, of the Order of St. Augustine, formed in the 13th century as a community of “mendicant” friars dedicated to poverty, service and evangelization.

The order’s requirements and ethos are traced to the fifth century St. Augustine of Hippo, one of the theological and devotional giants of early Christianity.

The order works in about 50 countries, according to its website, promoting a contemplative spirituality, communal living and service to others.



What to know:

Who is Robert Prevost? The former pope, Francis, brought Prevost, 69, to the Vatican in 2023 to serve as the powerful head of the office that vets bishop nominations from around the world, one of the most important jobs in the Catholic Church. As a result, Prevost has a prominence going into the conclave that few other cardinals had.

How was the new pope chosen? 135 eligible cardinals participated in a secretive voting process known as “the conclave.” The cardinals had no contact with the outside world, and their votes will not be revealed.

Which cardinals were the leading contenders? There are never official candidates for the papacy, but some cardinals were considered “papabile,” or possessing the characteristics necessary to become pope. Some names include Pietro Parolin, who oversaw the conclave, Luis Tagle, dubbed the “Asian Francis,” Fridolin Ambongo Besungu, a conservative cardinal native to the Congo, and Pierbattista Pizzaballa, potentially the first Italian pope in decades.



huge huge huuuge news! catholicism coming your way murica, resistance is futile now!


The new Pope has a degree in mathematics. He doesn’t just understand sin; he understands cos and tan too.

As a Protestant I will allow such lampooning, well played.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-08 23:53:19
May 08 2025 23:52 GMT
#99178
The DOW went up 250 points in reaction to the US/UK trade deal.
https://www.reuters.com/business/us-stock-futures-climb-hopes-first-trade-deal-since-tariff-pause-2025-05-08/

Trump should have a coffee. Coffee is for closers.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7291 Posts
May 08 2025 23:55 GMT
#99179
Trump is only a closer in that I c a loser
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44275 Posts
May 09 2025 00:05 GMT
#99180
On May 09 2025 08:55 Zambrah wrote:
Trump is only a closer in that I c a loser


As a Protestant human being with good taste in jokes, I will allow such lampooning, well played.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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