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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Civility. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23469 Posts
On July 02 2018 05:57 Danglars wrote: He’s certainly feeding division. But red plate/blue plate is a choice. Trump does not possess supernatural powers. If that’s your response, so be it, post that big sign in front letting people know Trump officials or MAGA hats aren’t allowed. "Red plate blue plate" What do you have against a food truck in Ohio? | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On July 02 2018 06:05 GreenHorizons wrote: "Red plate blue plate" What do you have against a food truck in Ohio? I can’t claim credit for the phrasing. I’m no wordsmith. Obamas chief strategist expressed a simple message. You want to prove Trump right, you just keep going in this direction. “Thanks | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On July 02 2018 06:27 Danglars wrote: https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/1010917905586970625 I can’t claim credit for the phrasing. I’m no wordsmith. Obamas chief strategist expressed a simple message. You want to prove Trump right, you just keep going in this direction. “Thanks 50% of people can't maintain civility when the other 50% have decided to abandon it. You can't hand the responsibility over to other people. If Republicans aren't willing to meet in the middle, how can it be reversed? Sarah Sanders' expulsion is another warning siren. But your side of the aisle doesn't see it for what it is. It's 'oh look the Democrats are hypocrites and/or bad people' not an indication that both sides need to stop now and reverse course. The President guided you to this precipice. Half can't go over and then tell the other half not to. You're linked by a rope. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 02 2018 06:37 Grumbels wrote: Obama was obsessive about civility and working across the aisle and the GOP literally convinced their base that he was the antichrist. They loved that conspiracy theory that he wasn’t an American so much it’s survived all the way until 2016. Only a few republicans tried to stop that one. Fox News loves it. But remember, saying Trump is very bad for America is over the top. There is a part of me that want to believe civility will save us. The naive part of me from 2008. The realistic side of me knows there is no going back. Civility will just lead to us all standing dumbfounded as Roe v wade is over turned, asking “how did this happen.” And let’s be clear, Trump promised to appoint justices that will over turn it. So civility is over rated. They just want everyone to remain civil while they rig the game for another 4 decades. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On July 02 2018 07:02 TheTenthDoc wrote: I really wonder how SHS and Trump got so many people to identify so powerfully with them that if they face adversity because of their personal and despicable actions it is experienced by their base. It's a pretty fascinating phenomenon. Most people don't look at the bigger picture. They saw a guy who railed against the government and "others" and rode upon the wave of resentment against government and their own selfish interests. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On July 02 2018 06:37 iamthedave wrote: 50% of people can't maintain civility when the other 50% have decided to abandon it. You can't hand the responsibility over to other people. If Republicans aren't willing to meet in the middle, how can it be reversed? Sarah Sanders' expulsion is another warning siren. But your side of the aisle doesn't see it for what it is. It's 'oh look the Democrats are hypocrites and/or bad people' not an indication that both sides need to stop now and reverse course. The President guided you to this precipice. Half can't go over and then tell the other half not to. You're linked by a rope. This is all saying Trump is dead right about the country. I thought he was wrong, but I’m slowly being brought around by your intense efforts. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9717 Posts
On July 02 2018 06:37 Grumbels wrote: Obama was obsessive about civility and working across the aisle and the GOP literally convinced their base that he was the antichrist. A dictator if you will... lol Anyway I'm sure its not nefarious on the part of the republicans, they simply took civility for granted and now wish they hadn't voted away any hope of returning to those days. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23469 Posts
On July 02 2018 07:35 Jockmcplop wrote: A dictator if you will... lol Anyway I'm sure its not nefarious on the part of the republicans, they simply took civility for granted and now wish they hadn't voted away any hope of returning to those days. It's a joke to think that America hasn't spent it's entire history being far more "uncivil" to people that weren't white males. Not a single thing Republicans complain about isn't something some segment of their supporters do and have done to another group. What they are actually lamenting is their opposition having a voice and any semblance of power. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On July 02 2018 07:24 Danglars wrote: This is all saying Trump is dead right about the country. I thought he was wrong, but I’m slowly being brought around by your intense efforts. Oh please. Don't be so eager to abandon ownership of your convictions. If you agree with Trump and the ideals he espouses, own it. Don't try to claim it as some perverted punishment for how the Left behaves. Be bigger than that. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On July 02 2018 07:51 Tachion wrote: With the recent Supreme Court worries, I've got some morbid curiosity to see Roe v Wade overturned and how it'll unfold. Blue states won't give a shit, and if the red states want to continue to legislate themselves back into the dark ages, maybe let them? Roughly 30-40% of abortions are undertaken by Protestants, and they seem to be the ones who rally hardest against it, so take away the service in those deep red states and let's see how they react. I'd rather adults didn't have their future decided by them and children growing up with parents who aren't ready for them. There's too much suffering in this country as it is. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11630 Posts
On July 02 2018 07:51 Tachion wrote: With the recent Supreme Court worries, I've got some morbid curiosity to see Roe v Wade overturned and how it'll unfold. Blue states won't give a shit, and if the red states want to continue to legislate themselves back into the dark ages, maybe let them? Roughly 30-40% of abortions are undertaken by Protestants, and they seem to be the ones who rally hardest against it, so take away the service in those deep red states and let's see how they react. "Protestants", especially in the US, is not one group. It basically encompasses a lot non-catholic christians there. (There are some other groups). Protestants in the US go from hardcore evangelicals to pretty relaxed people. (I don't know the names of all of the denominations and don't want to throw wrong ones out here) It is not really fair to group them all together. And a big problem with your approach is that there are people in these red states who don't really think like that, but who still have to deal with that bullshit. But as there does not seem to be anything anyone can do, i guess we will get to see republican wonderland soon. I hope they leave the borders open so reasonable people can leave. (And don't complain about the brain drain afterwards) | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21953 Posts
On July 02 2018 07:24 Danglars wrote: Glad to see your coming around. The rest of us learned it when a little under half of the voting public elected Trump as President.This is all saying Trump is dead right about the country. I thought he was wrong, but I’m slowly being brought around by your intense efforts. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On July 02 2018 08:07 Simberto wrote: "Protestants", especially in the US, is not one group. It basically encompasses a lot non-catholic christians there. (There are some other groups). Protestants in the US go from hardcore evangelicals to pretty relaxed people. (I don't know the names of all of the denominations and don't want to throw wrong ones out here) It is not really fair to group them all together. And a big problem with your approach is that there are people in these red states who don't really think like that, but who still have to deal with that bullshit. But as there does not seem to be anything anyone can do, i guess we will get to see republican wonderland soon. I hope they leave the borders open so reasonable people can leave. (And don't complain about the brain drain afterwards) Yea you're right. It's actually pretty surprising how drastically it varies between some of them. | ||
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