EPTUS Politics Mega-thread - Page 3792
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StasisField
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/pelosis-husband-violently-assaulted-assailant-broke-san-francisco-home-rcna54510 | ||
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r00ty
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Does this surprise anyone? The seed of hate is finally coming to fruit. I'm afraid there'll be a lot more like this. | ||
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NewSunshine
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#sarcasm | ||
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NewSunshine
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On October 29 2022 09:34 plasmidghost wrote: Florida has now started the process for banning trans youth from healthcare. We're going to be eliminated and no one cares https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/health-news-florida/2022-10-28/florida-medical-boards-back-proposal-to-ban-gender-affirming-care-for-trans-youth Absolutely appalling that even the medical "experts" are in on this. And as your article points out, they silence actual transgender people and their allies, in favor of giving the only speech platform to the ones with the anti-trans agendas. A lot of people in Florida might be too dense to realize this, but when you have to fly people around from other states to highlight that something in Florida is a problem, it's not a Florida problem. Wasting taxpayer money on stupid flights to pick stupid fights, it's peak political theatre. But clearly enough people still only want to see a show and play pretend. | ||
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Husyelt
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I have been campaigning or Perez for a few days now. Please get out and vote against any of the election deniers or proto Fash candidates. Any family or friends who can be swayed, swing them round a ballot. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
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On November 01 2022 11:09 gobbledydook wrote: I've never seen a politician who wasn't a narcissist. There is narcissist and narcissist. Like, a bad trait of personality, or a clinical condition that borders insanity. | ||
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WombaT
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On November 01 2022 11:09 gobbledydook wrote: I've never seen a politician who wasn't a narcissist. ‘All politicians suck’ is something of a cop-out to avoid confronting the considerable variances in how much they suck. The truth, to my mind is that the good, earnest politicians who actually want to do things either get ignored, or swallowed up and subsumed by public sentiment. We, the public are far too drawn to ‘strong’ men and women promising easy solutions to complex problems, for their own aggrandisement to the detriment of those who are actually invested in coming up with nuanced, sometimes difficult to swallow solutions to said problems. Good politicians do exist, they’re just not front and centre, for that reason. We had our politics society formal at our legislature, with quite a few members of that legislature present and schmoozing (and boozing) with them, some of them absolutely do care and went into politics for that reason. My mum used to babysit for a lady the next street over, still friends with the kids. Her husband was horrendously abusive but she got out, did a politics degree, became an elected representative. She ended up moving sideways, helped found an abortion advocacy/advice service in the vague vein of Planned Parenthood I’m maybe a bit personally biased on the matter, absolutely but I think the engrained idea that all politicians suck is a useful shield to deflect from the failings of those who do suck, as well as a pessimistic and cynical view that impedes those of good intent. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28864 Posts
However if you look at local politicians, city/town council members, positions that hardly get exposure and that pay poorly compared to the effort put into the job, my experience is they're overwhelmingly idealists. Sure - you can argue that anyone who takes the role of a politician, which by default is a statement of 'I know some way of improving society' or 'people like me so much that they're going to vote for me' (or both) is a person with some degree of confidence in him or herself, but I mean, that same thing applies to me as a teacher: I teach because I think I have some knowledge/insight that people would benefit from learning and I think I'm a good fit for the job and that people like me. Either way, Trump's narcissism is on a whole other level compared to what is normal for politicians, even if one accepts that all politicians embody some degree of narcissistic traits. Same with his relationship to the truth. You can accurately state that politicians tend to sometimes lie without turning it into a binary system of 'is a liar' or 'is truthful' and then concluding that everybody is the same. | ||
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WombaT
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On November 01 2022 20:13 Liquid`Drone wrote: It's definitely not true that all politicians suck or that all politicians are narcissists. I will however grant that it's a highly prevalent trait among higher level politicians, and it's probably even more prevalent in the US where people vote for individuals rather than for a party. However if you look at local politicians, city/town council members, positions that hardly get exposure and that pay poorly compared to the effort put into the job, my experience is they're overwhelmingly idealists. Sure - you can argue that anyone who takes the role of a politician, which by default is a statement of 'I know some way of improving society' or 'people like me so much that they're going to vote for me' (or both) is a person with some degree of confidence in him or herself, but I mean, that same thing applies to me as a teacher: I teach because I think I have some knowledge/insight that people would benefit from learning and I think I'm a good fit for the job and that people like me. Either way, Trump's narcissism is on a whole other level compared to what is normal for politicians, even if one accepts that all politicians embody some degree of narcissistic traits. Same with his relationship to the truth. You can accurately state that politicians tend to sometimes lie without turning it into a binary system of 'is a liar' or 'is truthful' and then concluding that everybody is the same. Indeed I’d argue that narcissistic politicians being quite prevalent at the top of things is because narcissists are quite good at being narcissists, and we’re collectively quite bad at filtering bullshitters out. It’s more politically damaging for a politician to earnestly say ‘You know what, I don’t know 100%, I’ll go look that up’’ in response to a question than it is for somebody to confidently assert nonsense | ||
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brian
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edit; i’m mistaken, there are still a few pieces coming out with updates. pardon me. | ||
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