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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-21 20:42:42
May 21 2021 20:40 GMT
#64661
So the primary challenger lined up to dethrone Cheney got a 14 year old pregnant when he was 18. That's uh, pretty messed up. But also exactly the level of challenger I'd expect to her. Only a legitimate and complete moron would try to compete against a Cheney as republican while Dick is still alive.

(Also, this is his own admission in an interview).

via Star Tribune
https://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/us-house-candidate-bouchard-says-he-impregnated-14-year-old-when-he-was-18/article_c3996062-e6ad-5027-96a9-1bcd0f832eda.html


(the story also gets darker than you'd expect : the girl killed herself at age 20 after being pressured into marriage at 15 to the guy and getting divorced 3 years later).

Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10805 Posts
May 21 2021 21:20 GMT
#64662
Seems like they are not sending their best people.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-22 00:28:27
May 22 2021 00:27 GMT
#64663
On May 22 2021 06:20 Velr wrote:
Seems like they are not sending their best people.

I think, sadly they are though.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 22 2021 13:37 GMT
#64664
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
May 22 2021 15:10 GMT
#64665
On May 22 2021 22:37 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2021 07:05 plasmidghost wrote:
On May 19 2021 06:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 19 2021 05:53 plasmidghost wrote:
I'm extremely stressed and disheartened hearing about all these anti-trans bills everywhere. Tennessee just mandated that all business must state if they accept trans people in their restrooms. There are hundreds of bills like this. It's so much.


So does that mean there basically needs to be a sign hanging in a business / by a restroom clarifying that trans people are (or are not) allowed to use the bathroom that matches with their preferred gender?

Yeah, this is pretty much what's now legally required:



And if businesses don't have that sign up, we're fucked. They just passed segregation laws against us and that goddamn piece of shit Joe Manchin won't vote for the equality act


I just finished my Canadian Census and there was two gender questions, the first was what you were born and the second was what you identified as.

If these questions were asked to you, would you feel comfortable answering them? I'm not sure it would be completely safe in the US given what some members in the government think and are willing to do. Thoughts?

I would be concerned if I wasn't cis. Hell, during the mid terms this week we were asked if we wanted to make discrimination due to race legal or not at the state level - because I'm sure somebody out there read the room and decided "Yeah, not sure this is safe long term federally."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 22 2021 15:42 GMT
#64666
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
May 22 2021 16:37 GMT
#64667
On May 22 2021 22:37 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2021 07:05 plasmidghost wrote:
On May 19 2021 06:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 19 2021 05:53 plasmidghost wrote:
I'm extremely stressed and disheartened hearing about all these anti-trans bills everywhere. Tennessee just mandated that all business must state if they accept trans people in their restrooms. There are hundreds of bills like this. It's so much.


So does that mean there basically needs to be a sign hanging in a business / by a restroom clarifying that trans people are (or are not) allowed to use the bathroom that matches with their preferred gender?

Yeah, this is pretty much what's now legally required:

https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1394716054925058049

And if businesses don't have that sign up, we're fucked. They just passed segregation laws against us and that goddamn piece of shit Joe Manchin won't vote for the equality act


I just finished my Canadian Census and there was two gender questions, the first was what you were born and the second was what you identified as.

If these questions were asked to you, would you feel comfortable answering them? I'm not sure it would be completely safe in the US given what some members in the government think and are willing to do. Thoughts?


I don't know about the US and Canada, but I believe in most countries censuses are confidential, so the government can't use that information against you.
Bora Pain minha porra!
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 22 2021 16:41 GMT
#64668
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 22 2021 19:12 GMT
#64669
On May 22 2021 22:37 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2021 07:05 plasmidghost wrote:
On May 19 2021 06:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 19 2021 05:53 plasmidghost wrote:
I'm extremely stressed and disheartened hearing about all these anti-trans bills everywhere. Tennessee just mandated that all business must state if they accept trans people in their restrooms. There are hundreds of bills like this. It's so much.


So does that mean there basically needs to be a sign hanging in a business / by a restroom clarifying that trans people are (or are not) allowed to use the bathroom that matches with their preferred gender?

Yeah, this is pretty much what's now legally required:

https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1394716054925058049

And if businesses don't have that sign up, we're fucked. They just passed segregation laws against us and that goddamn piece of shit Joe Manchin won't vote for the equality act


I just finished my Canadian Census and there was two gender questions, the first was what you were born and the second was what you identified as.

If these questions were asked to you, would you feel comfortable answering them? I'm not sure it would be completely safe in the US given what some members in the government think and are willing to do. Thoughts?

I answer them truthfully. There is a very small chance of it being used against me, but I'm not going to hide myself from anyone
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
StalkerTL
Profile Joined May 2020
212 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-24 11:06:24
May 24 2021 11:00 GMT
#64670
On May 22 2021 06:20 Velr wrote:
Seems like they are not sending their best people.


At this point, they absolutely are. This is who they are, just some act upon being scumbags in their private lives while others just think it and make it a reality through politics.

I mean, Jason Miller (Trump senior adviser and chief spokesman of the Trump 2016 campaign), just lost his libel lawsuit against Gizmodo. What was the story? He got two women pregnant while his own wife was pregnant and snuck an abortifacient into the stripper's drink.

If there's anything that highlights that conservative ideas of pro-life and family first have a pretty sinister underbelly, this and the dozens of family first pro-life politicians having affairs, knocking the women up and desperately trying to give them abortions highlights who these people are best.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4733 Posts
May 25 2021 16:23 GMT
#64671
The saga continues: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56952435
Florida passed and signed law prohibiting social media from banning politicians.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 25 2021 17:36 GMT
#64672
Pointless. Twitter and Facebook aren't headquartered there.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 25 2021 17:45 GMT
#64673
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21950 Posts
May 25 2021 17:50 GMT
#64674
On May 26 2021 01:23 Silvanel wrote:
The saga continues: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56952435
Florida passed and signed law prohibiting social media from banning politicians.
Would be hella funny if FB/Twitter simply block Florida users from using the site so they don't have any reason to comply.
Not that the law is likely to survive an actual court battle in the first place.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-25 18:56:30
May 25 2021 18:55 GMT
#64675
On May 26 2021 02:50 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2021 01:23 Silvanel wrote:
The saga continues: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56952435
Florida passed and signed law prohibiting social media from banning politicians.
Would be hella funny if FB/Twitter simply block Florida users from using the site so they don't have any reason to comply.
Not that the law is likely to survive an actual court battle in the first place.

This entire law is based on the willful misunderstanding that a lot of conservatives have where they think 1st amendment = freedom of consequences for speech.

Ironically, it's actually a first amendment violation in that it is forcing an association with individuals that the companies do not want to associate with (freedom of association is part of the 1st amendment).
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26015 Posts
May 25 2021 19:07 GMT
#64676
On May 26 2021 01:23 Silvanel wrote:
The saga continues: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56952435
Florida passed and signed law prohibiting social media from banning politicians.

Wow what utter bollocks.

What happened to private companies being free to decide who they do business with?

I do for the record think the sheer power ‘big tech’ have is problematic, but at least what mechanisms I’d propose don’t massively conflict with my other beliefs and principles.

Not that this element wasn’t a factor in forever but the modern conservative movement seems to almost exclusively be fuelled and cater to the sensibilities of mostly white blokes who want to do whatever they want, and that’s about it.

Of course those who do embody certain actual principles do also exist, it feels they aren’t particularly well served by current trends.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 25 2021 19:29 GMT
#64677
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
May 25 2021 21:23 GMT
#64678
Word is that the Trump criminal probe has convened a grand jury, which means we very well may see charges against Trump, his children, and their businesses.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4733 Posts
May 26 2021 07:24 GMT
#64679
Indeed as reported by BBC there is a grand jury: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57250697
Pathetic Greta hater.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45024 Posts
May 26 2021 11:08 GMT
#64680
On May 26 2021 01:23 Silvanel wrote:
The saga continues: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56952435
Florida passed and signed law prohibiting social media from banning politicians.


Pretty sure this is completely meaningless and unenforceable posturing lol.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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