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Mohdoo
United States15401 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania9023 Posts
On May 26 2021 20:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Pretty sure this is completely meaningless and unenforceable posturing lol. That only makes this part all the more hilarious and confusing: The legislation includes a clause that exempts a company "that owns and operates a theme park or entertainment complex". Why put a shameless Disney brownie points exemption in a meaningless made-for-headlines bill? How specific and irrelevant can exemption criteria be to the issue a bill is trying to solve? Imagine Germany going "child labour is illegal unless.. you manufacture tracksuits with 3 stripes on the sides" I would pay to watch someone have to defend that clause and connect those dots with a straight face in a formal setting. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10188 Posts
On May 27 2021 01:42 Mohdoo wrote: Really happy to see the left starting to embrace investigating chinese covid lab stuff. So much smoke. The hopsitalized researchers in earlier in the year is a huge red flag. My wife is a microbiology researcher and she is very outraged by the whole thing. She sees this as the most cut and dry case of lab incompetence you can ever see. Its honestly weird to me there aren't already sanctions on China. It has always seemed to me that the biggest reason the left had, until now, rejected the wuhan lab origin of coronavirus is because it was supported by the orange guy. It's a strange time we are in when the plausibility of something is seemingly dependent on what Trump thinks about it. I often wonder about what the OG anti-vaxxers think about all their new MAGA allies. Like are the Jenny McCarthy's of the world happy now that so many more people are anti-vax or do you think they are so horrified to be associated with the MAGA people that they might give vaccines a chance? lol | ||
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Simberto
Germany11340 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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KwarK
United States42009 Posts
On May 27 2021 01:42 Mohdoo wrote: Really happy to see the left starting to embrace investigating chinese covid lab stuff. So much smoke. The hopsitalized researchers in earlier in the year is a huge red flag. My wife is a microbiology researcher and she is very outraged by the whole thing. She sees this as the most cut and dry case of lab incompetence you can ever see. Its honestly weird to me there aren't already sanctions on China. Coronaviruses are already endemic, it’s not so unimaginable that a SARS 2.0 comes out of the same part of the world as SARS. | ||
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EnDeR_
Spain2562 Posts
On May 27 2021 01:42 Mohdoo wrote: Really happy to see the left starting to embrace investigating chinese covid lab stuff. So much smoke. The hopsitalized researchers in earlier in the year is a huge red flag. My wife is a microbiology researcher and she is very outraged by the whole thing. She sees this as the most cut and dry case of lab incompetence you can ever see. Its honestly weird to me there aren't already sanctions on China. What's the full story? Was there malicious intent or were some researchers just mishandling hazardous substances? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15401 Posts
On May 27 2021 19:55 EnDeR_ wrote: What's the full story? Was there malicious intent or were some researchers just mishandling hazardous substances? In the eyes of my wife, stuff like this simply happens sometimes, which is why there are lots of things in place to prevent like 8 different levels of stupidity. She doesn't think it was necessarily intentional. There are allll sorts of stories you can hear about close calls all over the world. However, China is widely known for being negligent and generally a lot worse at conducting science ethically. So for this to have happened isn't surprising. | ||
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KwarK
United States42009 Posts
On May 28 2021 01:58 Mohdoo wrote: In the eyes of my wife, stuff like this simply happens sometimes, which is why there are lots of things in place to prevent like 8 different levels of stupidity. She doesn't think it was necessarily intentional. There are allll sorts of stories you can hear about close calls all over the world. However, China is widely known for being negligent and generally a lot worse at conducting science ethically. So for this to have happened isn't surprising. I think he was hoping for the sourced story from some kind of reputable journal, not for a hypothetical from your wife. Hence “the story” and not “a story”. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15401 Posts
On May 28 2021 03:00 KwarK wrote: I think he was hoping for the sourced story from some kind of reputable journal, not for a hypothetical from your wife. Hence “the story” and not “a story”. You're not going to find that because China is actively preventing any sort of reasonable information from being gathered. Plenty of examples throughout history of China generally not being up to snuff, particularly with issues pertaining to safety. But yeah, I got no journal or something to show the information China is making sure doesn't exist. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On May 28 2021 11:56 plasmidghost wrote: On a personal note, I am very pleased that over 99.99% of trans people I know have united in our hatred of Caitlyn Jenner. That she's willing to throw our entire community under the bus is fucking disgusting and I pray that she gets completely derided and destroyed in the upcoming election She stands no chance. Nobody with an R next to their name stands a chance. The only person whos going to beat GN is another dem to his left | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On May 28 2021 01:58 Mohdoo wrote: In the eyes of my wife, stuff like this simply happens sometimes, which is why there are lots of things in place to prevent like 8 different levels of stupidity. She doesn't think it was necessarily intentional. There are allll sorts of stories you can hear about close calls all over the world. However, China is widely known for being negligent and generally a lot worse at conducting science ethically. So for this to have happened isn't surprising. There's a much higher chance of it coming from wet markets/the wild than a lab. The virus wasn't engineered, nor was it touched by human hands. I'll wait for more proofs before making such allegations. | ||
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EnDeR_
Spain2562 Posts
On May 28 2021 03:00 KwarK wrote: I think he was hoping for the sourced story from some kind of reputable journal, not for a hypothetical from your wife. Hence “the story” and not “a story”. Yes, exactly. I think we should wait before handing out judgement until we actually know the details. | ||
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rope123
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Regarding Sars 2 with the information available to the public most experts still lean to it originally coming from the wild. Considering though there is a lab researching corona viruses in Wuhan and also taking into account previous bio security breaches the virus could very well have accidentally escaped from the lab in Wuhan as well (in fact the lab in Wuhan was reported to the WHO for lax security standards several times). In the end does it matter though? China most definitely didnt engineer the virus but its handling of the initial outbreak was so negligent that their culpability hardly differs wether it directly spread from an animal to a human or took the detour through a lab | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8366 Posts
On May 27 2021 05:30 BlackJack wrote: It has always seemed to me that the biggest reason the left had, until now, rejected the wuhan lab origin of coronavirus is because it was supported by the orange guy. It's a strange time we are in when the plausibility of something is seemingly dependent on what Trump thinks about it. I often wonder about what the OG anti-vaxxers think about all their new MAGA allies. Like are the Jenny McCarthy's of the world happy now that so many more people are anti-vax or do you think they are so horrified to be associated with the MAGA people that they might give vaccines a chance? lol yeah people are irrational beyond belief, however as far as rationality is concerned going against Mr. Big Lie is generally not a bad bet... the lab theory gaining traction again, though certainly interesting enough, will most likely lead nowhere... there are hardly any people reporting from China anymore and good intelligence (assets) are hard to come by. https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/27/china-expels-foreign-journalists-crackdown-transparency/ | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15401 Posts
On May 28 2021 16:24 Erasme wrote: There's a much higher chance of it coming from wet markets/the wild than a lab. The virus wasn't engineered, nor was it touched by human hands. I'll wait for more proofs before making such allegations. Being studied in a lab is not the same as bio chemistry engineered. Tons of labs all over the world study nature viruses. It can be a lab leak without it being a weapon | ||
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