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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
I was lucky residing in a posh neighborhood the one time I had to go visit a GP. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
But the way the courts keep slapping down their bullshit cases down is pretty satisfying. District court of Pennsylvania: In this action, the Trump Campaign and the Individual Plaintiffs (collectively, the “Plaintiffs”) seek to discard millions of votes legally cast by Pennsylvanians from all corners – from Greene County to Pike County, and everywhere in between. In other words, Plaintiffs ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters. This Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated. One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens. That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more. At bottom, Plaintiffs have failed to meet their burden to state a claim upon which relief may be granted. Therefore, I grant Defendants’ motions and dismiss Plaintiffs’ action with prejudice https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057.202.0_1.pdf | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10384 Posts
On November 22 2020 09:21 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: I still think the whole situation with so many people religiously believing in the 'stolen election' is really scary, with how far republican figureheads are taking it. It's just madness and so damaging. If the results were actually very close some weird shit might've happened. But the way the courts keep slapping down their bullshit cases down is pretty satisfying. District court of Pennsylvania: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057.202.0_1.pdf As a law student: LMAO. This was an absolute hilarious decision to read. If I ever really need a quick buck in exchange for any morals that I might have, I'll just reach out to the Republican Party and spend a year arguing bullshit legal arguments for them. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On November 22 2020 09:36 FlaShFTW wrote: As a law student: LMAO. This was an absolute hilarious decision to read. If I ever really need a quick buck in exchange for any morals that I might have, I'll just reach out to the Republican Party and spend a year arguing bullshit legal arguments for them. It was reported last week that Giuliani asked 20k a day for this lol His response to getting chewed out by the judge is that it was always the plan to lose big so that the case can be appealed to the supreme court faster. He also attacks the judge for being 'Obama appointed' but the judge is a republican Federalist Society member... | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
All I could think in my head was, "So you're telling me, he's doing this out of spite? He's fundamentally hurting the foundation this country was built on by de-legitimizing our elections because he's mad people treated him poorly?" Get the fuck over it. I can't believe so many people voted for this man. It feels like every day at least Trump's fight to stop Biden from entering office is dwindling and this will all be over within a month. Yes, I said a month, I really do think that's how long he's gonna attempt to drag this on. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On November 22 2020 13:56 Zooper31 wrote: Saw some White House press briefing where the press secretary tried to defend Trump's actions by saying everyone has forgotten how Trump's election victory was handled. How his transition process was anything but smooth and that his election was never recognized. Went on to name all the accounts of the various disheartening things the Democrats have done to Trump over the last 4years. All I could think in my head was, "So you're telling me, he's doing this out of spite? He's fundamentally hurting the foundation this country was built on by de-legitimizing our elections because he's mad people treated him poorly?" Get the fuck over it. I can't believe so many people voted for this man. It feels like every day at least Trump's fight to stop Biden from entering office is dwindling and this will all be over within a month. Yes, I said a month, I really do think that's how long he's gonna attempt to drag this on. Hillary conceded the day after Election Day, and Obama's team went to great lengths to ensure that the transfer of power would be smooth. There's a clip you can find of the press sec making this bullshit allegation and then cutting back to 2016/17 with Trump directly contradicting her as he thanks Obama for the great transition. It is 100% Orwellian interpretation of reality. Down is up. Ignorance is power. Trump is casting the first stone. That isn't the standard for the President, but he is sure as hell the one deciding on his own to be an absolute shitlord to his successor. He needs to be shown that that is comprehensively unacceptable. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
Not gonna link it here, but yeah.. Bullshit Barbie is a fitting synonym. I remember fondly how we made fun of comical Ali back in the day - now you've got hundreds of them. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
Life is pain. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On November 22 2020 14:15 NewSunshine wrote: Hillary conceded the day after Election Day, and Obama's team went to great lengths to ensure that the transfer of power would be smooth. There's a clip you can find of the press sec making this bullshit allegation and then cutting back to 2016/17 with Trump directly contradicting her as he thanks Obama for the great transition. It is 100% Orwellian interpretation of reality. Down is up. Ignorance is power. Trump is casting the first stone. That isn't the standard for the President, but he is sure as hell the one deciding on his own to be an absolute shitlord to his successor. He needs to be shown that that is comprehensively unacceptable. Except 50% of Republicans believe Trump actually won. To a good portion of your fellow citizens this isn't unacceptable, it's pursuit of justice. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26703 Posts
On November 22 2020 21:29 iamthedave wrote: Except 50% of Republicans believe Trump actually won. To a good portion of your fellow citizens this isn't unacceptable, it's pursuit of justice. Which is insane but quite comforting solely because I’d heard the number was 84% the other day. Of course no doubt this will be framed in some quarters as the ostensible left’s fault for being mean to Trump’s base and not understanding their grievances or what have you. | ||
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Slydie
1935 Posts
I am happy that asking Republican politicians to abandon the democratic systems which got them elected is generally not working out. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On November 22 2020 23:38 JimmiC wrote: The extra depressing part is if he had just told his people to all wear masks, properly distance and use great hygine they would have done that too and literally saved thousands of lives, billions of dollars who knows how many man hours. This is the problem with dictators and wannabe dictators they could be good in theory but in practice the best you can hope for is "maybe better than the other one". It always ends up with selfish decisions, propaganda and a really depressing amount of people going along with them, or even supporting them. This is because you can't run a dictatorship with rational policy. If I increase chocolate rations from 5 oz to 10 oz how do I know if you're loyal to me or if you just like chocolate. On the other hand, if I increase chocolate rations from 10 oz to 5 oz then I know who is a true believer. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On November 22 2020 14:03 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: As P-E, what power does Biden have to remove trump to make the transition smoother if this isn't handled by mid December? I know the day he's inaugurated, he has all the power, but is there anything he can do in the mean time to get this circus out of the way? Or is he handicapped by this nonsense? Why would he have the power to do anything? Before actually becoming president. | ||
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Slydie
1935 Posts
The extra depressing part is if he had just told his people to all wear masks, properly distance and use great hygine they would have done that too and literally saved thousands of lives, billions of dollars who knows how many man hours. Without turning this into the Covid thread, this could have helped some, and propaganding ignorance was a traitorous move. However, there are some structural problems with the US are facing handling Covid which any administration would have struggled with. -The right to traveling between counties and states. -Many deductions made on state level making a national coordinated effort difficult. -A sluggish, unfair and expensive healthcare system. -Little or no pay if you are sick, people are forced to work with symptoms. -The right to religious gathering is legally untouchable | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On November 23 2020 00:35 Slydie wrote: Without turning this into the Covid thread, this could have helped some, and propaganding ignorance was a traitorous move. However, there are some structural problems with the US are facing handling Covid which any administration would have struggled with. -The right to traveling between counties and states. -Little or no pay if you are sick, people are forced to work with symptoms. -The right to religious gathering is almost untouchable This isn't strictly true. Religious gatherings have been limited in many states, and religious organizations have lost several court cases related to this. Of course, this doesn't change the bizarre obsession that American culture has with "religious rights" and the fact that people will fight to do all kinds of unnecessary or harmful things in the name of religion, but it is at least slightly comforting that they can't just do anything. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
On November 22 2020 22:33 Slydie wrote: I am wondering if there is anything Trump and his cronies can say and do which will make his base abandon him. I mean, many would still follow suit if he starts rambling about aliens... I think we long have passed the "I could shoot someone on fifth avenue and get away with it" stage of his base's bizarre devotion to him and it seems like there is a chunk of his base that is now essentially a lost cause and will believe anything, no matter how insane, that he says. There is nothing rational left about what his hardcore supporters are doing. He's engaging in activities that actively are killing his base (all his rallies without safety precautions during a pandemic, his continual politicization of masks and safety procedures that have had clear impacts on the US's virus trajectory) and he has continued to make choices in office that do real physical and economic damage to those in his base yet for a chunk of his base, he can do no wrong and all his failings are blamed on some boogeyman (the Democrats, George Soros, etc.). I think a good example of how strong the distortion field around his base and true believers is would be that Sidney Powell press conference the other day. Anyone with half a brain could see that the stuff she was spouting was complete bullshit and was not grounded in anything resembling reality. For Trump and the true believers though, she was speaking the gospel. What she said was so nonsensical that even Tucker Carlson was asking where her evidence for her claims was. All of this happens and rather than themselves wondering about the evidence for the claims, the true believers instead turn on Carlson and claim he's part of the conspiracy against Trump when the reality is that Carlson has been one of the biggest defenders of Trump the last 4 years. This whole thing was quite unsettling to see play out. | ||
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